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This is a group for people who have any kinds of fish-less systems, but yet are not doing classical hydroponics. Where we can share what we have come to find about making-home made nutrients, oganic-hydro, pee-ponics, worm tea hydro, bio-ponics, home-made buffers, water chemistry or anything else that is perhaps inappropriate for fish. As well as experimenting and sharing results for things that might be alright for our aquatic critters.

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Warning... Much of what may be contained here may, or may not be a good idea to apply to a system populated with living, breathing, happy fish, crustaceans or any other aquatic life. So be smart...

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Comment by Meir Lazar on March 16, 2012 at 4:44pm: Yes, I am actually copying proteinman's ideas on backyardaquaponics and using a combination of mostly urine (high N), then smaller amounts of Fish emulsion (5-1-1) and some seasol (mainly for the micronutes), I also add iron chelate once in a while. I should mention, I do have crushed oyster shell in a nylon stocking buried in each bed, not sure if it is needed but it is a good buffer for PH.

5 oz in 5 gallons sounds like you will spike your ammonia (and then nitrates) too much, I don't know if it would do any damage to the plants because I don't know how many plants you have and the types, I would suggest careful monitoring of nitrates and if too high, simply dilute with plain ol' water to prevent nitrogen burn (if that's even possible in bioponics?)

Comment by David Schwinghamer on March 16, 2012 at 4:26pm: 2 oz in 100 gallons? Oops, I put 5 oz in with 5 gallons of water plus two types of Alaska brand fish emulsion! I saw your video and you said you were using fish emulsion too, right?

Comment by TCLynx on March 16, 2012 at 10:45am: doesn't take much pee just like it doesn't really take all that much fish either.

Comment by Meir Lazar on March 16, 2012 at 9:19am: Sorry I have roughly 100 gallons of water to 2 oz of "pure" aged urine. Hope that helps.

Comment by Meir Lazar on March 16, 2012 at 9:18am: I place about 1-2 oz every few days, I am going to start monitoring all the levels so I can see if I am keeping an optimal system. So far, no obvious deficiencies just based on observation, but I think a more scientific approach would be better for others to duplicate. I also place Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed in there once a month or so.

Comment by David Schwinghamer on March 16, 2012 at 8:27am: Meir,

Whats your pee to water ratio? What other nutrients are you using?

Comment by Meir Lazar on March 15, 2012 at 10:24pm: @Erik, get off your ass ... and pee in a bottle? You don't have to get up for that

I'm trully amazed what bioponics can do. I really should be testing the system for PH, ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, etc. but that's me being lazy. I figure as long as things are green, leave it be.

Comment by Eric Warwick on March 15, 2012 at 10:04pm: @Meir Nice video, it makes me want to get off my ass!

Comment by Meir Lazar on March 15, 2012 at 9:25pm: My latest video using peeponics (I call it bioponics, so much less shuddering with that term)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiW34m6XIcM

Comment by Vlad Jovanovic on March 7, 2012 at 12:54am: Sure, depending on what all your putting in there (so as not to harm the fish). The algae just steals your nutrients and uses up oxygen, so you can either get rid of it (by blocking out the light to your water), or turn it into free fish food to re-coupe some of those nutes :)

I've always just blocked out my reservoirs from light, so I've never experience any algae problems.