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We have washed some 1/2" Stalite too. I'm going to venture to say that we will probably choose 1/2" stalite over 1/2" brown River rock when we have the choice. Both take a good amount of washing. We use the square water plant baskets to swish the media in a couple bins of water. If you place the bins of water up at a comfortable working height it isn't too bad.
I think the 3/4" stuff would be great if I could get it.
It seems like tomatoes or squash would create quite a large and heavy ball of roots tightly bound to the growing media.
I have not seen any discussion of this so I'm wondering how this is dealt with.
My system is young but most roots have come up with the plants I've pulled, although I haven't grown either of those plants yet. The gravel must then be the shaken and/or plucked out of the root ball. Some roots will surely be left in the gravel and I've read that some people go to the trouble of getting them out but I don't think it's necessary, especially if you have earthworms in the gravel. Eventually they break down.
Bob Campbell said:
It seems like tomatoes or squash would create quite a large and heavy ball of roots tightly bound to the growing media.
I have not seen any discussion of this so I'm wondering how this is dealt with.
Roots will break down in the gravel and be eaten by worms and bacteria.
Now that said, I have encountered a few plants that can become beasts and clog a huge grow bed with root mass in a single season.
Beware the mint, it can take over a grow bed and completely fill the bed with root mass and choke other plants out. Contain it in it's own small grow bed that will be easier for you to dump and re-fill when it becomes necessary.
The banana completely clogged up a 100 gallon stock tank. Beware the banana beast. They are big plants and trying to remove a large one from a grow bed may require heavy equipment.
Lufa, I had a lufa vine completely fill a 100 gallon stock tank with root mass this past summer. Luckily after cutting off the vine, the roots are breaking down nicely and new plants are growing in the beds.
I've never experience the above problems with tomatoes but my grow beds are large, if your grow beds are small or shallow you may experience more trouble with toms. Corn produces lots of roots and when growing corn in the grow beds I needed to check the drains and clean out roots on a regular basis.
Now Squash or pumpkin, I haven't grown those in AP but the Lufa is a related plant so I will suspect that a huge pumpkin vine might really fill a bed with roots but I don't have much experience there other than to say the lufa vine roots are breaking down nicely so I'm not too worried about it.
That would be a way to keep a handle on Mint.
Just beware the open water between pots will tend to grow algae and won't filter system water very well.
Have any of you tried pineapples in media? Are their roots a problem?
I expect pineapples will grow fine in a system if they are planted relatively high (not constantly soaked) and occasionally get a drink in their tops. Pineapples have minimal root systems down in the ground since they are bromeliads (sp?) and their roots are actually between their leaves and they collect moisture and nutrients from the water that trickles down between their leaves.
Thanks for the info. I thought I remembered that Sahib had pineapples growing but not sure. The Hawaiians have a neat trick of putting dissolved lamp carbons in the middle of the flower to promote rapid flower development. I tried it and it worked beautifully. I'm going to experiment with a pineapple and see how it does.
Expanded Shale - I'm getting a truck load of expanded shale delivered to my beeyard later in the month, 3/4 inch. It seems nobody uses 1/2 inch in this area, which is the size I'd prefer. What I'm getting is actually part of a shipment for an industrial stormwater drainage project. Turns out, even though this is a major port, shale isn't delivered here often in anything smaller than rail car loads.
The smaller horticulture sized shale is too fine, I think. But the small stuff's hard to get here too. There is only one outfit that uses small stuff around here, and they drive up to the NC plant for 9 yards every two years.
Anyway, I'll have some to sell in the Virginia Beach area, if you want to give it a try.
I"m thinking shale base with a hydroton top layer in my grow beds.
I'm using 1/2 inch expanded slate because 3/4 wasn't readily available. Why would you prefer 1/2 inch?
rick kennerly said:
Expanded Shale - I'm getting a truck load of expanded shale delivered to my beeyard later in the month, 3/4 inch. It seems nobody uses 1/2 inch in this area, which is the size I'd prefer.
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