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Home Aquaponics Kit: Self-Cleaning Fish Tank That Grows Food

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Comment by Del Roach on August 24, 2013 at 9:27pm

neat product.  We are the tombstone community garden We use aquaponics.  We also sell aquaponic products in our thrift store.  do you want us to carry your fish tank?

Comment by Irvin Carrero on November 20, 2012 at 3:30pm

"Cutthroat Capitalist" now that is hilarious, ha ha. No I'm more of social-entrepreneur (social responsability should be first in any company) thats me. But I do believe experts should be paid what they are worth.

Comment by Nate Storey on November 20, 2012 at 9:40am

Ha Ha.  You're funny Irvin, I wouldn't have taken you for a cutthroat capitalist. I'll give it a try and see how it works.  I found out I'm gonna have a kid in March, so a few extra dollars wouldn't hurt.  :)

Maurice: I agree with you on the point that food production equipment should be incorporated into the home, but when I eat basil, I'd eat that whole system!  Om nom nom nom.  Anyway, people don't really want to take the time to grow something that they consume in large quantities regularly, so, you either have to have a huge system that's automated, or offer much more production capacity.  Remember that the reason that food processors and microwaves are awesome is that they save space, time and money compared to their traditional counterparts.

Rupert: Fair question- I'm guessing the one they show is a prototype of some sort. . .  As for the dinkiness, I hear you, but even so, look at how well AeroGarden has sold!  I never would have predicted that an expensive kit that grows 3-4 small plants would do so well!  It just tells me that consumers won't always do the sensible thing!

Comment by Irvin Carrero on November 20, 2012 at 4:30am

People pay attention when they pay so don't give it all away for free Nate because, as ironic as it may sound, they may not appreciate it. Don’t undervalue your expertise; And beside these kids have a prosperous mushroom enterprise with 16 employees and they should be able to at the very least afford one more. Let them know what they’re doing wrong for free so they know you’re for real but don’t tell them how to fix it unless they pay you fairly. That’s my 2 cents of advice to all of you. I certainly appreciate the hours you guys have invested in teaching me with your comments videos and suggestions and I am so grateful! I only wish I could pay you. I wish you all continued success in your endeavors and I thank you all for you passion and your good will. 

Comment by RupertofOZ on November 20, 2012 at 3:02am

They could well be injection moulded Nate... either way... they've already done it... so whay give them $100,000...

And why endorse a dinki di aquaponics trinket... and/or yet more dinki di "aquaponics experts"...

Comment by Nate Storey on November 19, 2012 at 9:34am

I just sent Nikhil another email offering free design consulting.  We'll see what happens.  :)

Comment by Nate Storey on November 19, 2012 at 9:24am

Bingo Rob.  I sent these guys an email expressing just that.  I also asked who the "experts" were that they consulted with.  I don't think they know the first thing about what they're doing- things like the "1 inch per gallon industry standard" stocking density, or their use of "net pods" makes me think that they're just regurgitating things that they were briefly exposed to and misread, misunderstood or misinterpreted.  I offered them free consulting on improving their design (I do think it's beautiful, just not functional), but I haven't heard anything back.  Maybe I'll try again.  :)

In any case, there will be a bunch of dissapointed customers in a few months!

Ivin, we're all happy to help.  Feel free to contact me personally if you have any issues.  I love science experiments!  It sounds like Bob definitely has you on the right track.

Rob, I don't think they actually "worked" with any experts.  If they did, they should be fired immediately!  I told these guys that if they did speak with an "expert" he was probably misrepresenting himself to them.  So many problems with this design. . . 

Rupert- I think they were injection molding, but perhaps I was mistaken.  . . If they are rotomolding then they're really getting taken for a ride!  I think that think could be rotomolded for about $10 a pop or less with 3K in molds. . . I'm becoming very educated on the cost of molds. . . Grrrrr.

Comment by Bob Campbell on November 19, 2012 at 9:23am

You might get some ideas from this video.  These products need to be scrutinized, but there are some fun ideas at this green festival..

Comment by Bob Campbell on November 19, 2012 at 7:42am

Roots need a place to grow so there are limits to the downsizing of an AP system.

Fish populations must be large enough to create a reason for adding nutrient via fish food.

The grow media must be large enough to support nitrification of the Ammonia

Plants and fish must prefer similar a temperature range.

Read the RULES OF THUMB

Once your system fulfills these requirements you will stand a chance at micro sizing an AP system.

But small systems are prone to failure because there is little room for error.  

You might be better off teaching your kids about the value of urine.  

Comment by Rob Nash on November 19, 2012 at 7:38am

im with Nate, there is no way they grew the plants shown, in that system.

not enough fish/nutrients, no filtration, and no place for mineralization, equals poop-soup and disapointed customers...not to mention- a huge black eye on the ap industry.

they mentioned working with aquaponic experts or pros,... im curious who that may have been, because i dont see enough of the basic mechanics of aquaponics intigrated into this product, that any expert would have advised.

if you really want to help these guys and save them some money and disapointment, tell them run this system for a year or even 3 mos. and report their findings.

not trying to crush any dreams here, but they are not the first to jump into the "market-a-product" side of things before first understanding its needs.

 

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