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Jim, when you talk about 1 1/2" or 2" S&D (sewer and drain) pipe, do you actually mean DWV (Drain Waste Vent) pipe?
I can buy 3" and 4" S&D pipe around here but the pipe and fitting sizes are definitely different than the schedule 40 or DWV. Schedule 40 and DWV pipe and fittings are sort of interchangeable though the DWV pipe has a shallower seat so you need to be better about cutting your pipes straight and depending on where you put them should maybe glue them more often. The main difference between the "regular" PVC fittings and pipes and the DWV stuff is the pressure ratings. In a home you would not use DWV pipe for the pressurized lines from the pressure tank or city water supply since it is not rated for pressure. In aquaponics we rarely have much pressure going on so my comment is sort of academic or to help people understand different pipe sizes.
There are different pipe wall thicknesses and where things get really confusing is that here in the USA our pipe sizes are "nominal" that means in name only. (Have had a few people get confused lately thinking that the pipe sizes refer to the OD or outside diameter of the pipe which here in the US, they do not.) Our "nominal" pipe sizes are actually based on ID (or inside diameter) but those sizes were set in the past when the materials and their strengths were different. Back then they came up with standard size fittings for the different sizes of pipes and those fittings are based more on the exterior size of the pipe, which was based on how big the pipe needed to be to carry a given flow at a given pressure without worry of bursting. Over the years our materials have become higher tech and they don't need to be as thick anymore in order to be strong enough, However, instead of changing the exterior, which would require ALL fittings be changed, they have left the exterior size alone for the most part and just made the pipes thinner where materials allowed. This saves on materials and weight while allowing the use of the same old standard fittings. BUT it is confusing since now days it means that neither the OD or ID have much if anything to do with the NAME we call the pipe size!!!!!!!!
There are other parts of the world where the pipe sizes are named based on the OD and the OD is the exact size. That is NOT the case in the USA or any place that is using the same size pipes as here in the USA. I do believe that OZ uses the same size pipes as the USA but if you are in Europe, the middle east, or elsewhere, do some careful research before you buy plumbing parts from the USA to make sure you will be able to make them work. Pipe sizes are NOT the same the world over!!!!
I have also discovered that even people here in the USA who I would think already know better, don't understand our crazy pipe sizing. I sent my uncle out to cut a bunch of 1 1/2" PVC pipe for a project and he came back all frustrated because he couldn't find any 1 1/2" pvc in my pile of supplies for the project, all he could find was what he would call 2" pipe. (He was measuring the pipe, not looking at the labels on it.) the OD of our 1 1/2" pvc pipe is actually far closer to 2" than it is to 1 1/2".
Also, when you send some one else to the hardware store, it is best to send them with a piece of pipe or fitting in hand to check the size since I once sent some one for 3/4" pvc pieces and they came back with 3/4" cpvc which is a totally different size.
3" or 4" S&D pipe and fittings is going to be very different than 3" or 4" DWV pipe and fittings (though there are some tricks I learned where a nice smooth coupler from the S&D pipe has the same OD as the pipe from the DWV or regular PVC world.
Can you tell I've spent way to much time playing with the plumbing fittings?
Great job TC as always. A must read for anyone interested in AP.
Here are a few notes that I have learned over the past 2 yrs that might help people as well and compliment your work.
Sizing my pipes. A slightly different slant:-)
Starting at 1 1/2" pvc you have the option of sweep Tees which help keep flow going in the desired direction dramatically. Below that all you can get are 90 deg Tees which will restrict flow considerably by running into a wall. In my 5 full IBC FT and 15 GB 2000+gal system I use 1 1/2" S&D piping for the FT gravity flow waste water and have no problems at all.
I use 2" pipe (well vented with 3/4" pvc between each IBC GB in order to isolate the bell siphon from the drain by allowing air in just like the plumbing in your house) for the 5 bell siphon drains back to the below grade 275G sump and that has worked well. When completed this Summer there will be 3 such rows of 5 each having their own 2" manifold back to the sump for a total of 15 GBs. Personally I find that if you let the water slow down too much by using larger pipes THAT is where things can collect and grow blockages. ALSO by using the cheaper S&D (sewer and drain) pipe (unavailable in 2" for some dastardly reason) you get a great deal more volume for less $. 1 1/2" S&D is very close to 2" standard pipe in volume at about 1/2 the cost so I use S&D pipe where ever I can.
As to fish getting into the pipes
Here's how I make sure that never happens. I run a 1 1/4" id slotted pipe (approx. 1/4" slots along most of the bottom made on a chop saw) diagonally across the FT bottom and tie a 16" Walmart air stone on the top center (above the slotted area) using wire ties. Then a 90 elbow up the side to a Tee (which also acts as an overflow should the slots ever clog up) and out thru the FT side at the water level you want and on into the common gravity manifold heading to the GH grow beds. The air stone bubbles rising cause a strong up current that draws the fish waste on the bottom to the outflow pick up pipe below it. This keeps my FTs clean on the bottom as the trout stir things up on a daily basis AND keeps them out of the drain pipes. Works great.
Washing media right in the GB
I use granite gravel media and I wash the gravel right in the new GB by simply diverting the bell siphon drain away from the system until it runs clear. (one more reason NOT to glue everything) I use a hose from the well for wash water. Start by adding the gravel to one side and then move it to the other side thru the water filled GB and then let the bell drain the bed. I keep adding more and repeat and back again to the original side. Finally I add a 2" extension to the siphon stand pipe funnel and use the water level to level the media. THIS ELIMINATES having to move it all again. Works fantastic and granite BTW is very easy to wash and provides essential minerals to your system. Much easier than the river rock gravel I started with and better looking and about 1/4 the cost (18.00 a ton here and 1 ton fills 2 GBs to 12").
Don't cut the tops off those IBC FTs
By leaving the tops on the IBC FTs and cutting an access lid across the front I can fill to about 8" from the top so a 330g IBC will be about 300 gal without any fish (even trout) ever jumping out. Then I use a 275g IBC to make 2 GBs (the top and bottom) which works out perfectly per 330 FT. I start a 300g IBC with 50 trout fingerlings and since the growth rate ranges dramatically, by harvesting the larger fish first you end up never overcrowding and they can stay in the one FT for the duration (about a year). Moving and handling Trout can result in deaths from stress.
All my FTs are connected to a common drain at the 2" built in ball valve using a rubber "Furnco" connected to a 2" pipe manifold that goes out the side of the GH. Again use a sweep T at each tank. When I want to harvest fish I drop the level to about a foot (use a screen over the drain hole to keep the fish in) and then I net the big ones for dinner. Then I turn the water back on and let the tank fill again. DON'T forget to make up that water at the sump or your pump will shut down on the low water switch. AND YES you should always protect that expensive pump with a simple float switch.
Pump Head
One more note that people often misunderstand is that the lift of the pump should be measured from the surface of the sump water and not the pump itself. Until the water rises above the surface there is really no work involved. By keeping the sump as full as possible you increase your system flow accordingly and quite noticeably in my experience.
Folks can see most of what I describe here at my pics pages and at our IBC group and as always TCLynx has been my Guru from the beginning. When TC speaks I listen.
Granted I've only been doing aquaponics a few years so I suppose ti would be presumptuous of me to say a media bed is good to go indefinitely, however, there are people out there who have been doing aquaponics quite a bit longer and by accounts from many of them, they have had some media bed systems running for probably close to a decade without having to "clean out the beds and re-wash the gravel". That said, in order for that to work, you need media that is not going to break down, you need enough grow beds that you won't be overloading them, you need some composting worms, and you need to not plant things that will block up everything with their roots. I've never had a grow bed clog with fish poo but I have had a grow bed clog with mint roots or banana roots so beware the aggressive perennial plants.
Always make your drain plumbing accessible. and if you need to glue all the gravity drains to keep them from getting knocked apart, at least give yourself a clean out some where (like a T to a thread on Cap that you could take off and run a snake through if you did get a clog.) But for most of the plumbing you are better off oversizing things and you are less likely to get clogged. Keep the leaves out of the plumbing if you can.
Anyway, There are some very eminent people out there that will insist that you need to clean your gravel out every 3-6 months to keep solids from building up but I've not seen it. I've got some beds that have been running for years and I've never "cleaned" them but I have lots of gravel in relation to my fish load and if I spread the solids out among the different beds, no one bed seems to get overloaded.
As to the flimsy bins, yea, few rectangular containers are really designed to hold heavy gravel/water and not bow out or bust.
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