Hi Chi, yes, thanks for sharing that. FYI I live walking distance from state DFG HQ in Sac. A couple years ago I started trying to chase down just what was the DFG's position toward aquaponics, including tilapia. Got a lot of inconsistent info (but re tilapia north of Tehachapi Mountains, pretty consistent with the info you got). Have not pursued it lately but would like to. Did hear a rumor this summer that they were working on some sort of policy specifically addressing aquaponics. I'll try to track that down and will report if I find any solid info.
Hi, I called the DFG today and inquired about the Inland Aquaculture Coordinator position. I was hoping to get in and enable aquaponics, but they did not seem like they knew what they were doing, just spending our taxes.
Getting some sort of clarity re: California regulations as they apply to aquaponics is one interest of mine (though not nearly as fun to pursue as hands-on aquaponics stuff, of course!). Can you post your letter from G. Neillands on this forum Jon, or email me a copy (email@example.com)? Thanks.
Jon Parr said:
Good luck, Steve. Common sense is not a qualifying trait at DFG. Tell them you have a way that they can pull in some bribe money, and you will get the position for sure.
Chi, I have a simlar letter from George Neillands, and he acknowledges that tilapia ARE legal, and there is no law to support DFG's anti-tilapia policy. Any DFG staff that says they are illegal is lying, and any threat of fines or repercussions is harassment and fraudulent. They work for us, don't let them play god, bastards. Did that sound bitter? They do however have jurisdiction to deny any aquaculture permit on a whim, so don't go planning anything commercial.
On a side note, I have Cali native Sac Perch and Sac Blackfish, if anyone is interested. Very excited about the perch, they are cali's only native sunfish, and were everywhere in Cali freshwater before bluegill were introduced.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:52:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Fwd: Tilapia and jade perch
Michelle Leicester is my District Fisheries Biologist for your area.
She is correct in following the Regional Policy of keeping tilapia out
of our region.
Current Regulations: In the Title 14 section 671, four species of
tilapia are restricted: Tilapia sparrmani, Tilapia zillii, Tilapia aurea
(as called Orechromis aureus), and Tilapia nilotica (as called
Orechromis niloticus). Only T. zillii can be imported, transported and
possessed in San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego
and Imperial counties. There are no other restrictions or regulations
The Colorado River and the Salton Sea have resident tilapia
populations. These populations no longer are of single species but have
quickly hybridized into one single population of random mating hybrids,
which indicates how adaptable this species really is. Tilapia are
present in areas with connections to these water bodies. Since, tilapia
are present in southern California waters, the Department has allowed
tilapia to be reared and possessed in counties south of the Tehachapi
Mountain range. Due to the wide biological tolerances of tilapia
species, the Department has not allowed any tilapia species in northern
Current regulations lack sufficient detail to support the
Department’s intention to maintain tilapia in southern California.
(NOTE: I cut out a lengthy recommended new proposal spelling out a southern Cal tilapia allowed area by county, and an unrelated answer to importing jade perch. --Jon)
Senior Fisheries Biologist
P. O. Box 47
Yountville, CA 94599
7329 Silverado Trail
Office: (707) 944-5525
Fax: (707) 944-5563
cell: (707) 307-3794
"FLEX YOUR POWER"
I'm definitely interested in learning more about Sacramento perch; I've been reading up on them and think they may be suitable for a project I have in mind.
Hey Jon- Any update on the Perch?