Comment

Comment by LogicalHydro on January 24, 2012 at 6:32pm

Great input Vlad. It definitely sounds like you have a good grasp on the topic.

Comment by Vlad Jovanovic on January 24, 2012 at 5:25pm

I don't kow Logical...I'm pullin' for Wil and all, but honestly...I'm thinking two things...

1) Brand spankin' new AP systems seem to be notoriously lacking in K, and you can already see a bit of leaf curl and a little blotchiness, not too bad yet,  and not the mottled rust colored dots (in which case it would probably be too late do do anything about it), and that these plants aren't exactly known as light feeders. If Wil's system was a year or two old this situation would likely be different. But it's not...

2) In a few weeks time Wil might (naturally) get the itch to add some P-K product from the local hydro store, (either to help with flowering or to take care of the ever increasing signs of K deficiency),  but if he hadn't by then taken Nates original suggestion to heart and taken care of the Mg and/or Fe issues, then any P he might add could potentially be toxic to the little guy/gal in the photo. Not having any nitrites only complicates these issues with the Mg and possibly Fe. You can definitely already see some inter-venal chlorosis on the new, upper leaves, (Fe deficiency) and, although it's a little hard to tell from the pic, it looks like some of the older leaves as well (probably Mg deficiency).

Epsom salt occurs naturally within the Earth, Iron as well... And while we're at it the Potassium Bi-Carbonate (Eco-Rose for foliar spraying/and or pH buffering) I mentioned earlier is an approved organically certified fungicide in many places. So none of those things are exactly "nasty" or "un-natural" chemicals. Just my 2 cents...All these things would be good for his other plants too, although they might not be as demanding as this one :)  

Comment by LogicalHydro on January 24, 2012 at 12:35pm

Looks really good for veg! I'm interested to see how it ends up during flower and the taste and smell of the buds.

Comment by Wil Miles on January 24, 2012 at 12:04pm

and thanks to everyone who gave any input on this issue i greatly appreciate it any time i can learn something i didnt waste my day thanks again

Comment by Wil Miles on January 24, 2012 at 12:04pm

thanks for that info vlad and your right those leaves had to go but like i said she was stressing for w few weeks i was just letting her do her thing but did trim ,and will keep info coming to the site ill let you guys know how her growth comes along have a great day

Comment by Jon Parr on January 23, 2012 at 10:30pm

I'll join you Vlad in the idiot department. Tis beautiful, Wil. I second the advice from Nate and Vlad. I'd stick to Epsom salts, iron, and kelp thru veg. If you decide to flower her, then go ahead and try some K and P in moderation. He/she will suck it up, and foliar spray is both effective and safe. If it's a seed start, you can clip a lower branch and root it under 12/12 light. By the time roots pop, sex should be showing as well. Might same you some anxiety of putting a lot effort into what might be a baby boy.

Comment by Vlad Jovanovic on January 23, 2012 at 6:33pm

I think most folks would probably just stay away from this one, but I'm an idiot so here it goes...you might not want to add P to your system because of the potential problems associated with it...algal blooms, depletion of O2 blahblahblah (besides from the looks of it, you probably don't need it anyways).

I would however listen to Nate, or at the very least add some Maxi-Crop+Iron as many people with AP systems tend to do. You can add K with Potassium BiCarbonate if you feel you need to, and you probably will... (sold as the fungicide Eco-Rose) either when you buffer your pH up, or as a foliar spray (having the added fungicidal benefits). 

All legalities aside, I'm curious to see how 'she' (hopefully at least) does. And for god's sake's man, prune some of those lower leaves! :)

Comment by Wil Miles on January 23, 2012 at 12:01pm

like i said hes just coming out of being root locked for two weeks so im just happy hes alive still shooting up

Comment by Wil Miles on January 23, 2012 at 11:57am

yes i am aware of that just testing its limits with out anything i wanted to add p and k but i just want it raw you know see how it really goes

Comment by Nate Storey on January 23, 2012 at 11:54am

you need to add chelated iron and a little epsom salt (MgSO4) or dolimite lime (only if your pH is already low)