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Comment by Jim Fisk on June 17, 2014 at 12:14pm

Hey Steve. This seems to be a common start up phase. We were hit hard as well way back when during our late cycling period. My answer was a trip to Wally World and a 10.00 bag of poly fil which I used to fill a 30 gal barrel. I fed it bypass water only into a slotted (on the chop saw) 1 1/2" pipe in the center of the lid and exit at the side T and right back in to the below grade sump. It trapped all the little buggers  and it cleared up the water in less than 2 days. Here is an old picture, pretty simple and I still have it online 2 years later: (I also run an air stone in it but just as a precaution against any anaerobes as I don't run much water thru it depending on what else needs flow)

Comment by Leo White Bear on June 17, 2014 at 11:23am

Depending on the amount of algae you have, you can block off the light to the tote.  If you have a green slime algae, you need to do a water change and also block off the light to the tank.  Use a cover that blocks light but allows for air exchange easily, 75 - 90% shadecloth works great for the top.  The sides are a different matter.  You can use 1" Styrofoam insulation for this or better yet, use the reflective foam insulation.

Comment by Steve Armeros on June 17, 2014 at 10:16am

Hey Folks.   I am getting a lot of algae in my tote.  How do I control.  Should I remove?  Green Water.     Stop feeding? 

Thanks

Steve

Comment by aquaman on May 12, 2014 at 7:56pm

thanks jim

Comment by Jim Fisk on May 12, 2014 at 4:13pm

Here is a direct link to the page you want: GEK

Comment by Jim Fisk on May 12, 2014 at 4:10pm

Oh yea it is super dangerous. I have not other than gallon bottles but I have put some thought into it. An inverted barrel floating inside a barrel with the ss gen under the inner barrel so that if it should blow it will head straight up is about the only way and I intend to ignite that to see if it blows straight up rather than in every direction. Not advocating anyone try it. It is for some reason very stable right up until it is ignited by a spark. Then you better be out of range when it turns back into water. We ignite it with a HV unit and a 100' extension cord. In a barrel it might just blow out the neighborhood windows

Anyhow, my nephew works for a company on the W coast that produces syngas gens on a pallet. They also sell their plans. I will try and find it but I mentioned in a thread on here so I may just search here. Got it GEK. (Live link)

Pretty sweet!

Comment by aquaman on May 12, 2014 at 2:39pm

Ya we have been trying for a while along with a HHO geny. I have lived rural now for 18 yrs with my family. A no power area so only solar. Are well is 240 v and can only be run with a generator. So it has been a goal of ares to find a new source to run the well. So you guys have stored brown gas successfully?? Most stuff I have read online say not to do it and it is super dangerous??

Comment by Jim Fisk on May 12, 2014 at 11:46am

aquaman, no gen, just efficient heat. Syngas gens for making power are another great topic tho. I prefer hydro and will tap into our streams 35' drop for that. Are you looking to make electricity from yours?

Wood gasifiers are the new rage among wood stove manufacturers. But, syn-gas is syn-gas whether you burn it in the stove as in Phillip's rocket stove or the large new gasifier outdoor boilers.

@Phillip, got it. Never saw it happen in a chimney as the top is open and too vented. I think you will find that gases in a tree that explodes are really captive in there and might even build up pressure. I have had some logs in a stove burst with a pretty good bang, but so far in 10's of thousands of hours of burning wood I have never had a stove pipe blow. So far

I've, along with some others on here, made some very impressive Browns gas explosions tho. I still plan to harness the wind and store the fuel in the form of Brown's gas one of these days. Great for cooking and even cutting stone. Sun, wind and water can equal a very big boom. Never saw anyone do it that way before. Regardless of efficiency, it is a way other than batteries to store energy and when you burn it the only thing that is produced is water. Very impressive, the making of water. Just ask my neighbors in Maine where we used to play with it. Still have 2 of the better HHO gens we made.

Whoops, thread jack.

Sounds like a great Rocket stove set up you have there. Pics? Lots of folks on here would like to know more I am sure.

Comment by Phillip R. 'Cloudpiler' Landis on May 12, 2014 at 8:36am

Jim,

I've worked forest fires and when a tall, hollow tree catches, and has an opening at the bottom, the effect is dramatic.  We call them "fire bombs" because they do actually explode.  I duct, nicely coated as you describe with creosote and other fuels, has a nice opening at the bottom, and when it starts it can become one of those "fire bombs."  Sorry if my example was vague.

The tank I heat is 3ft wide by 20ft long by 4ft high.  It sits upon a thermal mass 3ft wide by 20ft long by 2ft high.  The duck runs right through the center of the mass for the entire length of the tank and exits out the back of the greenhouse.  I can put my hand in the exhaust duct at the end and there is heat, but not much.  The exhaust is mostly steam, but it still contains enough gas to poison the air.  I load my rocket once in the morning and once in the evening.  It takes about an hour to heat ten inches of thermal mass, so by the time the batch is fully burned, the entire mass is holding the BTUs.  I close the lid and don't have to tend the system.  The heat then transfers into the tank, and the surrounding environment (greenhouse beds).  My water temperature will rise and fall, but my tilapia adapted and reproduce.  I was even delighted by a spawn of Bluegill, which I was told wouldn't happen in my small system.  Of course, the parents devoured them all within seconds, but it was fun to watch anyway.

The system must be designed properly.  Size is important.  I didn't actually design mine at all.  I intended the thermal bench as a plant warmer, but it was too much for the plants.  I needed a bigger sink, so in went the tank. 

Comment by aquaman on May 12, 2014 at 8:09am

Ok thanks Jim. So are we talking about the same thing? We are looking to run a generator with this?? Is this something that you have done?

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