All I know is that you won't get much information out of them unless you purchase one of the licenses. They also seem to spend most of their time in Panama.
Looks like you've saved another one. When will people learn that "what goes around comes around"!
Sylvia Bernstein said:
Thanks again to everyone who monitors and comments on this discussion. As with healthcare, if you create a bad name it will follow you around like a stray dog. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up when my virus alert went off and I appreciate all the comments here that vindicated that response. Sadly, this individual is right here in my backyard and will probably continue his behaviour until one of the many California state boards shut him down. I was fortunate in that I was only looking for references and have not any business dealings with him. AMEN!
Now has anyone had any luck with crazycrays.com? They are also here locally but I can't seem to find a # and their website appears down. The physical address is good and there appears to be a business on site. (behind fences) Thanks!
I'm not sure why you're asking but i do know this, anyone out there with some basic knowledge(most AP'ers on this site) of Aquaponics and different designs can present a good enough sales pitch. What they can't sell is experience and only god knows if they have any themselves. You can open a box and successfully build and get running a system in no time. What happens when the plants develop spots or start wilting or fish start dying or acting skittish or beds start clogging and overflowing or.............etc. Even if we get tech support from these people, we will never become truly independent, we will always have to depend, we will never know for ourselves. Believe me no one can sell us the experience we need, we get it from practice, from learning from each other, right here on this site!
I've always admired your sincerity and your efforts here on this site and as a business person.There are others here as well like Nate and TC who are genuinely interested in helping others in whatever way necessary to help them with Aquaponics, whether with education or hardware items. The world is filled with other types of people who draw a line between assisting others and getting business from them. Guess which side of the line they eventually end up on?
I'm sure you started up with the intention of helping others educating them about AP and this naturally grew into assisting them with hardware items etc. Your genuine intention of helping is what I'm referring to. These "aqua-shysters" are simply greedy people with driven self interest and have absolutely no concern for others whatsoever, they couldn't care less how many people they have to hurt to satisfy themselves. I especially like the good bad and the ugly, attempting to protect people from these scams. So we are both saying the same thing. Personally i consider myself very fortunate to be guided to this site and to have met a great bunch of caring people, which is a very rare thing in this world today!