Comments - Poor fish, I'm just an amateur - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T14:36:17Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4778851%3ABlogPost%3A37365&xn_auth=noSounds like good info. I got…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-02:4778851:Comment:374582011-02-02T03:40:06.000ZSean Shorthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SeanShort
Sounds like good info. I got the fish from PetsMart. So who knows how well they take care of their goldfish. I'll just have to let the fittest survive :)
Sounds like good info. I got the fish from PetsMart. So who knows how well they take care of their goldfish. I'll just have to let the fittest survive :) Goldfish might be just fine i…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374322011-02-01T23:36:51.000ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Goldfish might be just fine if you are not aiming for eating the fish. You might just need to find a better source or figure the few that survive the riggers of the cycle up and learning will be the good tough ones. We got the cheap goldfish for my mom's ornamental pond and most of them survived for years before a particularly bad winter must have done them all in.</p>
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<p>Then again, fathead minnows or guppies might be fun too, all depends on what you want from your system.</p>
<p>Goldfish might be just fine if you are not aiming for eating the fish. You might just need to find a better source or figure the few that survive the riggers of the cycle up and learning will be the good tough ones. We got the cheap goldfish for my mom's ornamental pond and most of them survived for years before a particularly bad winter must have done them all in.</p>
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<p>Then again, fathead minnows or guppies might be fun too, all depends on what you want from your system.</p> I kind of figured that the ni…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374312011-02-01T23:27:55.000ZSean Shorthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SeanShort
I kind of figured that the nitrates would go unused until plants were grown. I suppose that the goldfish are fish that expect to die. I'm going to choose a better fish soon.
I kind of figured that the nitrates would go unused until plants were grown. I suppose that the goldfish are fish that expect to die. I'm going to choose a better fish soon. see, that means that you had…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374282011-02-01T21:13:31.000ZAlbertFhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlbertF
see, that means that you had an ammonia spike and nothing to uptake any converted nitrates.<br />
i usually recommend starting with plants bought from a nursery and adding hummonia/urea and testing until week 4 or put in fish that you expect to die.
see, that means that you had an ammonia spike and nothing to uptake any converted nitrates.<br />
i usually recommend starting with plants bought from a nursery and adding hummonia/urea and testing until week 4 or put in fish that you expect to die. Right on. I'll keep on keepin…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374262011-02-01T20:40:59.000ZSean Shorthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SeanShort
<p>Right on. I'll keep on keepin on. </p>
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<p>I began my cycling with fish. I added my seedlings at about week 3. </p>
<p>Right on. I'll keep on keepin on. </p>
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<p>I began my cycling with fish. I added my seedlings at about week 3. </p> Hello, Sorry to hear, its al…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374202011-02-01T20:12:05.000ZAlbertFhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlbertF
<p>Hello, Sorry to hear, its always a bummer. Someone said your not a true aquaponist until you have fish loss... Personally, I'd rather have done without the fish loss.</p>
<p>At what week did you add fish? I dont add fish until at least week 4.</p>
<p>Hello, Sorry to hear, its always a bummer. Someone said your not a true aquaponist until you have fish loss... Personally, I'd rather have done without the fish loss.</p>
<p>At what week did you add fish? I dont add fish until at least week 4.</p> yea, sounds like you just hit…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374192011-02-01T20:08:11.000ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
yea, sounds like you just hit a bit of a bump. Hang in there, it should get better soon<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a>
yea, sounds like you just hit a bit of a bump. Hang in there, it should get better soon<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a> Thank for all the advice. It…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374162011-02-01T20:06:18.000ZSean Shorthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SeanShort
<p>Thank for all the advice. It is much appreciated. </p>
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<p>I did happen to buy the cheapest fish possible. I figured it was best to kill $.13 fish in the learning process rather than get frustrated at the cost of pricier fish. I can imagine the lifespan for a feeder fish would be like you say. I think hardier fish are in my future.</p>
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<p>Audible alarms, good call!</p>
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<p>I have been testing for ammonia. I am simply testing for total ammonia though. I…</p>
<p>Thank for all the advice. It is much appreciated. </p>
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<p>I did happen to buy the cheapest fish possible. I figured it was best to kill $.13 fish in the learning process rather than get frustrated at the cost of pricier fish. I can imagine the lifespan for a feeder fish would be like you say. I think hardier fish are in my future.</p>
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<p>Audible alarms, good call!</p>
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<p>I have been testing for ammonia. I am simply testing for total ammonia though. I am using an aquarium master test kit measuring ppm. I have seen a curve from high ammonia in the beginnig to a drop in ammonia sometime around day 20. Since then it has stayed at .25ppm and in the last couple days has read 0. I plant to keep testing it to monitor the levels. </p>
<p> </p> Make sure you understand the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:374002011-02-01T16:07:52.000ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Make sure you understand the nitrogen cycle. A new system is rarely cycled up in less than 6 weeks so if you have only been running for 35 days, the system is still really new and you should still be monitoring the water tests for ammonia, and nitrite as well as pH regularly.</p>
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<p>Cheap goldfish can often be really tough but the cheapest goldfish are often meant as feeder fish and may not be very robust (seeing as the people selling fish for that purpose don't expect them to live…</p>
<p>Make sure you understand the nitrogen cycle. A new system is rarely cycled up in less than 6 weeks so if you have only been running for 35 days, the system is still really new and you should still be monitoring the water tests for ammonia, and nitrite as well as pH regularly.</p>
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<p>Cheap goldfish can often be really tough but the cheapest goldfish are often meant as feeder fish and may not be very robust (seeing as the people selling fish for that purpose don't expect them to live long anyway.) Small systems are also a bit harder to get stabilized especially in the beginning. As you found out, the chemistry can move quickly as can the temperature.</p>
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<p>Ya might take to keeping a timer or alarm clock near the system so if you do open the window again, you can set the alarm to remind you to close it before dark and also use the alarm to remind you of other things too.</p> I had a quick squiz at your p…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-01:4778851:Comment:373822011-02-01T07:17:50.000ZKobus Joostehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KobusJooste
<p>I had a quick squiz at your previous posts, and was wondering about the possibility that you could have a fair amount of unused / unconverted ammonia in your system. Have you tested for these? What is your Ammonia level? Apart from the temperature swing, you could have inadvertantly given your fish a very bad knock when you suddenly raised the pH of your system. If you had Ammonia present, the low pH would have suppressed the amount of unionized ammonia (NH3) in the system. That is the…</p>
<p>I had a quick squiz at your previous posts, and was wondering about the possibility that you could have a fair amount of unused / unconverted ammonia in your system. Have you tested for these? What is your Ammonia level? Apart from the temperature swing, you could have inadvertantly given your fish a very bad knock when you suddenly raised the pH of your system. If you had Ammonia present, the low pH would have suppressed the amount of unionized ammonia (NH3) in the system. That is the really toxic part. Fish can take far more ammonia (NH4) than the unionized form, of which anything above 1 mg/L starts getting to the fish. For example, at a stable 77 degrees F, if the pH was below 6 and was brought up to 7.5 or above, you would have increased your NH3 from under 0.06% to as much as 5% of your total ammonia count. Other than that, I agree that goldfish seem to be less robust in my systems than say Koi or Tilapia. I hardly ever loose any of those, but eventually, all the goldfish I add dies.</p>
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<p>Otherwise, your system looks well thought out - just the issue of monitoring more of the water chemistry as TCLynx pointed out</p>