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Hello! Ive just got my new system up and running and your seeing my plumping in the middle of a rework. Before I cut to many pipes and give myself a bigger headache I thought I'd ask the community to help verify what might be going on and ensure I am solving the problem in the right way.
The system can be seen here: http://imgur.com/a/kU75t
Where I am currently at: I Have a sump tank with a single pump in it pumping upwards. This splits in 3 places - about 25% up to a return back into the sump tank, about 75% up it connects over to the plumping that feeds the grow bed. Then at the top it dumps into the fish tank. The fish tank drains from a gravity drain back directly to the sump, keeping the water level in the fish tank constant. The 3 grow beds are all flood/drain systems setup with a bell siphon, all working correctly.
My issue: Over time the water coming out at the top of the pipe, into the fish tank loses power and eventually stops. This means no water making it to the fish and is obviously a bad thing. If I stop/Start the pump, plenty of water making it to the fish, good power, etc. I assume this is because I have bleeds located below this point and over time gravity wins and takes all the flow into this pipes instead.
My idea to fix: I am guessing that I need to run all piping to the maximum high (top of fish tank) then T from there and have it feed down to the grow beds and seperately into the fish tank, that way 100% of the water makes it to the maximum height and is then just forked to its ultimate path.
Anything else that can cause this? Im assuming this is due to the waterlevel fluctuating in the lower sump tank so the head heigh is variable. When the sump is very low (when the top tanks are all about to drain) the pump has to work harder to push another foot or two upwards which results in lower flow to the top? Any way to work around this? Am I misunderstanding the problem?
Thanks!
Blake Allen
Jim,
Thanks for the reply, you have been tremendously helpful in the design and buildout of this system and I greatly appreciate your advice and tips. I'll see about adding an air vent like you suggest, that does make alot of sense now that you've explained it. Things have been running smooth for 24 hours now, which is the best its done in a year :). I think a couple gold fish will be soon.
Next up I think I need to get a solids filter going. I have plumbing to support one just need to get a barrel and create one.
Thanks again!
--Blake
Jun 12, 2016
Jim Fisk
Jun 12, 2016
Blake Allen
Jim,
Just to update things here --
I decided rather than figuring out how to get two drains draining at the same time to plumb them separately . This instantly fixed my problems and things are working perfectly. I've added a light screen over my sump tank and fish tank to keep debris out as there is a large oak tree above/nearby that likes to share leaves. I've added 12 goldfish as of late yesterday. This morning I awoke to two that had died - Im going to attribute this to either shock or water temp - its a bit warm. Will monitor and see if I conitnue to have fish problems.
Thanks again for all the help. I'll try to figure out a solids filter in the coming weeks.
--Blake
Jun 25, 2016