Why are my goldfish dying? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T08:55:40Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/why-are-my-goldfish-dying?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A107858&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLike some mention before fish…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-07:4778851:Comment:3471582012-06-07T19:30:36.899Zmatthew ferrellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/matthewferrell
<p>Like some mention before fish die after stress. I call it the 3 day rule. If something bad happens to the fish, 3 days later you will start to see the death. Depending on whats causing that will determine how long your in the woods. Low DO can cause this sort of event.</p>
<p>Like some mention before fish die after stress. I call it the 3 day rule. If something bad happens to the fish, 3 days later you will start to see the death. Depending on whats causing that will determine how long your in the woods. Low DO can cause this sort of event.</p> I did notice about 5 days ago…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-07:4778851:Comment:3473202012-06-07T16:35:11.827ZKennyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kenny187
<p>I did notice about 5 days ago that one tilapia was basically dead, but when I netted him, he opened and closed its mouth. I then put him in a holding basket and had a source of tank water purging the basket... it seemed to work so I thought it was an airation problem and added the air stone and pump. Just wondering why I'm still having a die off? Since I added the air, I experienced 2 more that died.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I did notice about 5 days ago that one tilapia was basically dead, but when I netted him, he opened and closed its mouth. I then put him in a holding basket and had a source of tank water purging the basket... it seemed to work so I thought it was an airation problem and added the air stone and pump. Just wondering why I'm still having a die off? Since I added the air, I experienced 2 more that died.</p>
<p>Thanks</p> A water change is pointless i…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-07:4778851:Comment:3471442012-06-07T15:56:19.824Zmatthew ferrellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/matthewferrell
<p>A water change is pointless if your levels are 0. Water changes are to dilute high TAN and Nitrite. <br/><br/>As some of you mentioned, shipping and moving fish can be stressful. Stress leads to disease. Some disease issues you can not see as they are internal. Sometimes if you see a fish on its last legs, it helps to catch and cut it open and look at the internals for red or brown areas.</p>
<p>A water change is pointless if your levels are 0. Water changes are to dilute high TAN and Nitrite. <br/><br/>As some of you mentioned, shipping and moving fish can be stressful. Stress leads to disease. Some disease issues you can not see as they are internal. Sometimes if you see a fish on its last legs, it helps to catch and cut it open and look at the internals for red or brown areas.</p> I have a similar problem... I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-07:4778851:Comment:3471412012-06-07T15:33:20.798ZKennyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kenny187
<p>I have a similar problem... I have some hold over gold fish among my HI Golden Tilapia. Over the last week to week and a half, I had about 6 gold fish dieing, then the last 3 days, a tilapia a day have been joining that club. </p>
<p>I immediately tested my water and results as follows: ph = 7.4, NH3/Nh4 = 0, NO2=0, & NO3 = 0. I don't use that maxicrop as mentioned above. Weather here in So Cal (LA) has been warm ~ 75-80° or so and my water temp has been 80-86°. No new fish has…</p>
<p>I have a similar problem... I have some hold over gold fish among my HI Golden Tilapia. Over the last week to week and a half, I had about 6 gold fish dieing, then the last 3 days, a tilapia a day have been joining that club. </p>
<p>I immediately tested my water and results as follows: ph = 7.4, NH3/Nh4 = 0, NO2=0, & NO3 = 0. I don't use that maxicrop as mentioned above. Weather here in So Cal (LA) has been warm ~ 75-80° or so and my water temp has been 80-86°. No new fish has been added to my 110 gal system. I do plan to do a 20% water change today.</p> You are so right.
When I work…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-05-19:4778851:Comment:1134142011-05-19T03:11:42.620ZJohannhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Johann
<p>You are so right.</p>
<p>When I worked at the fish store and we got a new shipment in....</p>
<p>First we would float the closed baggies for 15-20 minutes or more( dependent of the size of the baggies), so the temperature would be the same.</p>
<p>Winter time the shipper would add heat packs, but sometimes the temps would go so far down in the baggies that we just let it sit with the lid partialy open so it would get at least room temerature before we would float them im the fish…</p>
<p>You are so right.</p>
<p>When I worked at the fish store and we got a new shipment in....</p>
<p>First we would float the closed baggies for 15-20 minutes or more( dependent of the size of the baggies), so the temperature would be the same.</p>
<p>Winter time the shipper would add heat packs, but sometimes the temps would go so far down in the baggies that we just let it sit with the lid partialy open so it would get at least room temerature before we would float them im the fish tank.</p>
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<p>Second we open the baggies and we hook up a small airhose to the water pump system and we would let trickle water into the baggies until they would overflow and then we would continue to let it overflow for another 15-20 minutes with the fish still in the baggies. After that we would release the fish, altogether it would take about 2 hrs for the fish to be released into the fish tank, after arrival in our store.</p>
<p>Since we got the fish in the evening/night, after stocking the fish the lights would go out. this would keep the 'would be jumpers' in the fish tanks.</p>
<p><cite>Alfio Contarino said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><p>I would not use maxicrop or any seaweed based fertiliser in the system, as I was taught any seaweed based fertiliser has a level of sodium, continual use will just increase the sodium levels and that’s not good for the fish or the plants. </p>
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<p>I agree it would be as good idea to do a 20% water change and not introduce any more fish until the water conditions are corrected.</p>
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<p>Also I found that when you go to add fish its best to adjust them gradually to the conditions of your tank as they might not be the same as from where you got them. I have an interchange tank where I put the fish before adding them to my AP system. Then every day I add water from the AP system to the interchange tank for 3 to 4 days and adjust the temperature to slowly match my AP system from the temperature of the system that came from. This is to reduce the shock to the fish.</p>
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<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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</blockquote> I would not use maxicrop or a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-05-19:4778851:Comment:1132702011-05-19T01:56:15.249ZAlfio Contarinohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlfioContarino
<p>I would not use maxicrop or any seaweed based fertiliser in the system, as I was taught any seaweed based fertiliser has a level of sodium, continual use will just increase the sodium levels and that’s not good for the fish or the plants. </p>
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<p>I agree it would be as good idea to do a 20% water change and not introduce any more fish until the water conditions are corrected.</p>
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<p>Also I found that when you go to add fish its best to adjust them gradually to the…</p>
<p>I would not use maxicrop or any seaweed based fertiliser in the system, as I was taught any seaweed based fertiliser has a level of sodium, continual use will just increase the sodium levels and that’s not good for the fish or the plants. </p>
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<p>I agree it would be as good idea to do a 20% water change and not introduce any more fish until the water conditions are corrected.</p>
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<p>Also I found that when you go to add fish its best to adjust them gradually to the conditions of your tank as they might not be the same as from where you got them. I have an interchange tank where I put the fish before adding them to my AP system. Then every day I add water from the AP system to the interchange tank for 3 to 4 days and adjust the temperature to slowly match my AP system from the temperature of the system that came from. This is to reduce the shock to the fish.</p>
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<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p> </p> I used to work in a privately…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-05-15:4778851:Comment:1112562011-05-15T04:26:24.296ZJohannhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Johann
<p>I used to work in a privately owned fish store and when we got a new shipment of feeder goldfish in, about 10% would die within the first 3 days.</p>
<p>And after that it would be 1 small netfull of feeder gold fish that would die per day,but after 1 week only a few would die.</p>
<p>Petsmart has very poor quality on all of there pets. Most of there pets have inherited deceases and they will not reach adulthood ( rats getting fungus on 1 eye after 30-60 days etc..and die 1 month…</p>
<p>I used to work in a privately owned fish store and when we got a new shipment of feeder goldfish in, about 10% would die within the first 3 days.</p>
<p>And after that it would be 1 small netfull of feeder gold fish that would die per day,but after 1 week only a few would die.</p>
<p>Petsmart has very poor quality on all of there pets. Most of there pets have inherited deceases and they will not reach adulthood ( rats getting fungus on 1 eye after 30-60 days etc..and die 1 month later).</p>
<p>You may want to get your fish from a privately owned fish store or do like TCL told you not to get new fish and see how the rest will do.</p>
<p>Years back I cycled a few fish tanks with feeder gold fish and about 1 out of 10 feeder gold fish would die while I would cycle the tank, goldfish are hardy.</p>
<p>It may be a good idea to do a 20% water change.</p> Find the right people with aq…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-05-09:4778851:Comment:1083172011-05-09T20:41:08.783ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
Find the right people with aquaponics systems and they may be willing to give away some fry to get you started.
Find the right people with aquaponics systems and they may be willing to give away some fry to get you started. Yes I am in Fla. They are in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-05-09:4778851:Comment:1078642011-05-09T19:47:20.814Zweshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/wes
<p>Yes I am in Fla. They are in most of the brackish water areas and in the canals but you take a bigger chance of getting some other disease issue's with getting out in the wild. I have a brother inlaw that has a very nicely stocked lake in the back of his home that has allot of tilapia, catfish, bass and bluegill in it. So I got my start from that with the fish and now I am working on setting up a tank for some breeders. Other than that you can purchase them all over but it is…</p>
<p>Yes I am in Fla. They are in most of the brackish water areas and in the canals but you take a bigger chance of getting some other disease issue's with getting out in the wild. I have a brother inlaw that has a very nicely stocked lake in the back of his home that has allot of tilapia, catfish, bass and bluegill in it. So I got my start from that with the fish and now I am working on setting up a tank for some breeders. Other than that you can purchase them all over but it is pricey.</p>
<p> </p> Where can you cast net them?…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-05-09:4778851:Comment:1084272011-05-09T19:23:35.852ZChris Topherhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChrisTopher
Where can you cast net them? Are you in FL?<br></br>
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<cite>wes said:</cite><br />
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<p>I agree with TCLynx it also could be a PH shock, what was the ph of the water they came from???? About the tilapia I am experimenting with some babies right now and they seem to be very hardy and can take a licking going from one ph of 8.0 to a 7.5 and…</p>
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Where can you cast net them? Are you in FL?<br/>
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<cite>wes said:</cite><br />
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<p>I agree with TCLynx it also could be a PH shock, what was the ph of the water they came from???? About the tilapia I am experimenting with some babies right now and they seem to be very hardy and can take a licking going from one ph of 8.0 to a 7.5 and still going strong. I can say for sure the lager taplia are bullet proof I have been cast netting some medium to large size ones out of my brother in-laws pond and I haven’t lost a single one, even while the system was still doing the cycle startup with nitrites of 5.0 and ammonia at 3.0 they passed with living colors.</p>
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