what's the best way to deal with aphids? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T22:33:45Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/what-s-the-best-way-to-deal-with-aphids?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A334603&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDratz! Well there goes that…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-13:4778851:Comment:3346032012-05-13T08:00:03.703ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Dratz! Well there goes that idea...Of course boiling the butts wouldn't be a hassle at all if it'll take care of any potential viruses...The nicotine brew did kill most all of the gypsy moth caterpillars that were attacking my trees, but not the common striped potato bugs I pictured in that other thread. The potato bugs stumbled around like drunken sailors and all 4 were knocked out cold for quite some time, but after 3 days were still alive and kicking.<br></br> Time to start another worm bin…</p>
<p>Dratz! Well there goes that idea...Of course boiling the butts wouldn't be a hassle at all if it'll take care of any potential viruses...The nicotine brew did kill most all of the gypsy moth caterpillars that were attacking my trees, but not the common striped potato bugs I pictured in that other thread. The potato bugs stumbled around like drunken sailors and all 4 were knocked out cold for quite some time, but after 3 days were still alive and kicking.<br/> Time to start another worm bin I suppose...</p>
<p><br/> <cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/what-s-the-best-way-to-deal-with-aphids?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A327713&page=2#4778851Comment331888"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Then danger with tobacco is that tobacco can carry viruses that can also devistate your tomato and lettuce crops (to the point that commercial grower will say you shouldn't even let smokers visit your property in fear that they might not wash their hands after smoking before touching your plants.)</p>
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<p>so if you do try to use a tobacco spray you should probably boil the tobacco to kill viruses before using it in your spray.</p>
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</blockquote> Thank you so much Converse. I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-08:4778851:Comment:3323602012-05-08T17:16:45.897ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Thank you so much Converse. I really appreciate your time and consideration. No rush.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much Converse. I really appreciate your time and consideration. No rush.</p>
<p></p> Greetings Vlad,
I'll ad…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-08:4778851:Comment:3324022012-05-08T16:00:53.806ZConversehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Converse
<p>Greetings Vlad,</p>
<p> I'll address your question about trench vermicomposting soon (tomorrow). I did not want you to think I had missed your question or had ignored it. Farm Duties call right now, and I'd like to address your idea properly. (It will work)</p>
<p> I will be creating another thread though to anwser, since it would be very off-topic from dealing with aphids..but very on-topic for AP support.</p>
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<p>Greetings Vlad,</p>
<p> I'll address your question about trench vermicomposting soon (tomorrow). I did not want you to think I had missed your question or had ignored it. Farm Duties call right now, and I'd like to address your idea properly. (It will work)</p>
<p> I will be creating another thread though to anwser, since it would be very off-topic from dealing with aphids..but very on-topic for AP support.</p>
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<p>- Converse</p> Then danger with tobacco is t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-08:4778851:Comment:3318882012-05-08T01:20:17.393ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Then danger with tobacco is that tobacco can carry viruses that can also devistate your tomato and lettuce crops (to the point that commercial grower will say you shouldn't even let smokers visit your property in fear that they might not wash their hands after smoking before touching your plants.)</p>
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<p>so if you do try to use a tobacco spray you should probably boil the tobacco to kill viruses before using it in your spray.</p>
<p>Then danger with tobacco is that tobacco can carry viruses that can also devistate your tomato and lettuce crops (to the point that commercial grower will say you shouldn't even let smokers visit your property in fear that they might not wash their hands after smoking before touching your plants.)</p>
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<p>so if you do try to use a tobacco spray you should probably boil the tobacco to kill viruses before using it in your spray.</p> Hi Consverse,
If one were to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-07:4778851:Comment:3319232012-05-07T19:40:32.341ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Hi Consverse,</p>
<p>If one were to dig a trench say, 70-80cm wide by 70-80cm deep by how ever long (4-5 metres) and line it with geo-textile and put down some straw bedding (probably not very absorbent)...could you dump half composted veggie scraps and rotting leaves mixed with straw in the first metre or so of the trench, let the worms do there thing, then move them along by putting down an other big pile of (fresh) more of the same next to the first one...and so on and so on til you get…</p>
<p>Hi Consverse,</p>
<p>If one were to dig a trench say, 70-80cm wide by 70-80cm deep by how ever long (4-5 metres) and line it with geo-textile and put down some straw bedding (probably not very absorbent)...could you dump half composted veggie scraps and rotting leaves mixed with straw in the first metre or so of the trench, let the worms do there thing, then move them along by putting down an other big pile of (fresh) more of the same next to the first one...and so on and so on til you get to the end of the trench (or winter comes), harvesting castings as the move forward? </p>
<p>Speaking of winter, could you then put down bedding (straw fresh leaves, composted cow manure and some veggie scraps) and place a big pile of fresh NON-composted cow manure (it's non-grain fed) next to that for some warmth, and then cover the whole thing with bales of straw? Will the worms gravitate into a "comfort zone of warmth" over the winter?</p>
<p>Or is this idea just stupid? I have a LOT of ALL of the above materials and a lot of space. I've only ever kept a small home-made plastic worm bin(s) and was very, very pleased until they turned into worm-cicles this winter. Any thoughts or suggestions on the trench would be <em>vastly</em> appreciated.</p>
<p>On a non-hi-jacking note, I did kill 3 aphids and 3 gypsy moth worms today in a sort of test run (the rain foiled my plans for the real spraying) by using 2 handfulls of cigarette butts and the tobacco from 3 cigarettes soaked in a jar of warm water (about 4 litres) till it turned the color of a well steeped orange pekoe tea. Strained it added a spoonful of dish soap...put the bugs one by one on a big white ceramic tile sprayed a bit and observed. The aphids (from a neighbors roses) died way faster than the gypsy moths (which seem hellbent on destroying my quince trees).</p>
<p>Does anybody know if this nicotine brew would be fish/bacteria safe?</p>
<p> </p> Well, there's an 'oops!' for…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-07:4778851:Comment:3319192012-05-07T18:48:07.098ZConversehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Converse
<p>Well, there's an 'oops!' for you! Thanks for pointing that out. It is 2/3 cup of worm castings in one gallon of non-chlorinated water.</p>
<p>Two-thirds cup. </p>
<p>- Converse</p>
<p>Well, there's an 'oops!' for you! Thanks for pointing that out. It is 2/3 cup of worm castings in one gallon of non-chlorinated water.</p>
<p>Two-thirds cup. </p>
<p>- Converse</p> Hey Converse, Did you mean 3/…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-07:4778851:Comment:3317312012-05-07T18:29:46.756ZBryan Acredhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BryanAcred
<p>Hey Converse, Did you mean 3/2 cup as in 1 and 1/2 cups or did you mean just a 1/2 cup of castings?</p>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Bryan<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Converse said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/what-s-the-best-way-to-deal-with-aphids?xg_source=activity#4778851Comment327723"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If you have access to fresh worm castings you can brew a tea that will get rid of aphids. Take 3/2 cup worm castings and put it in a…</p>
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<p>Hey Converse, Did you mean 3/2 cup as in 1 and 1/2 cups or did you mean just a 1/2 cup of castings?</p>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Bryan<br/> <br/> <cite>Converse said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/what-s-the-best-way-to-deal-with-aphids?xg_source=activity#4778851Comment327723"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If you have access to fresh worm castings you can brew a tea that will get rid of aphids. Take 3/2 cup worm castings and put it in a gallon jar with 2 TBSP sugar and a gallon of non-chlorinated water. Add a fish bubbler for 24 hours. This will make the tea. You can add the worm castings loose in the jar (you'll need to strain them out after brewing, but that is what we do) or you can put them in an old nylon or cloth sack and hang in the jar. After brewing (aerating) the mix for 24 hours, spray this liquid on your plants, top-sides-and bottoms. It will get rid of the aphid problem and feed the plants in the process. It will not harm any plants, nor harm your FT. Warning: do not put a sealed lid on a jar of brewed worm casting tea. It will build up pressure. Use the brewed tea within 18 hours of removing it from the aeration source. </p>
<p> I am sure there are other methods, but this is what we use recommend. All natural.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you in this!</p>
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</blockquote> The best worm composting bin…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-07:4778851:Comment:3318162012-05-07T17:37:43.282ZConversehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Converse
<p>The best worm composting bin is one that you will use. Beyond that, there are some definate recommendations and need-to-know pieces of information to have the best possible success.</p>
<p> John, you are right, that it is odd to use a tumbler composter for vermicomposting...But <em>it will work</em>. It is not that rare for people to convert their tumblers to vermicomposting bins. We have talked to a LOT of people at the farmers' Markets who do this after they realize the increased…</p>
<p>The best worm composting bin is one that you will use. Beyond that, there are some definate recommendations and need-to-know pieces of information to have the best possible success.</p>
<p> John, you are right, that it is odd to use a tumbler composter for vermicomposting...But <em>it will work</em>. It is not that rare for people to convert their tumblers to vermicomposting bins. We have talked to a LOT of people at the farmers' Markets who do this after they realize the increased benefits they can get from vermicomposting over just composting in the tumbler as the directions that came with the unit describe. Using-what-you-have is being a good steward of your resources. A commendable re-purposing strategy for a tumbler. Of course, selling it and putting the redworms in a less expensive unit and having the cash for other uses makes sense too.</p>
<p> As far as the stackable tray units go. I will fully admit that the design of having the trays you can remove with matter 'processed' into castings is very appealing. The drawbacks that we have been loudly and volumously made aware of, in my opinion, out weigh the advantages of this system design. Yes, people DO have success with these units. However the number of people who end up disgusted with the whole situation due to inherent design issues, has led us to the conclusion not to recommend this design to the general population.</p>
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<p> I reality, the redworms do not care if you spent over $100 on a vermicomposting unit or you use a bucket you got at the local grocery store deli for free. As long as the basic needs of the redworms are met, you will have 'happy', actively composting redworms. We got our very first redworms given to us in an old plastic kitty litter bucket. They lived there for months, busily doing their thing.</p>
<p> Currently our redworms live outdoors year-round in wormbeds. These are not pampered redworms! They live under a blanket of snow over 4 feet deep in the winter, happily doing 'their thing'.Yes, we do care for them though. Of course, we do prep the wormbeds for winter, but they are not in a heated environmentally controlled building. They are outdoors in over 100 degree weather in the summer...And some people DO have redworm operations that are very controlled. A wormbed can be fancy, or it can be a lump on the ground. The redworms really do not care. Just meet their needs.</p>
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<p> We do practice what we teach. We actually have a 10 gallon tote in our livingroom behind our recliner full of redworms doing their thing. No one ever knows it is there unless they are told. The redworms stay put. The unit is small enough to fit under most kitchen sinks. It is simple to use and harvest from. This is the type of unit we most often recommend. They are for sale, all ready to go, or you can fix a tote to work as a vermicomposting bin.</p>
<p> My advice for those looking for it: Use what you can afford. Keep it simple. Keep it where you will actually use it.</p>
<p> You can use a rubbermaid type tote, a wooden box ( avoid aeromatic woods), an old chest freezer, an old cooler, a lump on the ground, a bucket, and old garbage can.... Yes, I believe I covered this in another thread on this forum...so I'll not hijack this with a redworms/vermicomposting 101 class. And I am closer to having my website with info to a point where I would not be too embarrassed for others to look at...It'll be available soon.</p>
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<p>A good concluding point to my reply is that if you feed redworms your compostable waste you will have worm castings to use in your AP set-ups. No more buying chemicals or expensive organic mixes to get rid of insect pests or fight plant maladies. You will not need to buy potting soils. Gardeners' Gold! From your compostable trash to Gold! </p>
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<p> </p> I do not get them much on my…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-07:4778851:Comment:3314982012-05-07T15:44:02.711ZDan Pontonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/danielponton
<p>I do not get them much on my vegi plant, mostly on my yellow cone flowers. The flower stems are covered with them every year. So far I don't have problem with aphids. yes on tomato worms, caterpillars on my collard greens ( i pick them off).</p>
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<p>I do not get them much on my vegi plant, mostly on my yellow cone flowers. The flower stems are covered with them every year. So far I don't have problem with aphids. yes on tomato worms, caterpillars on my collard greens ( i pick them off).</p>
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<p></p> Good advice, Converse. I must…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-07:4778851:Comment:3314222012-05-07T00:44:32.043ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
Good advice, Converse. I must be one of the lucky ones that has no fruit fly trouble. I'm way too cheap to buy a worm bin, but my sister gave me a Can-O-Worms, and I have added table scraps to the top for 5 yrs with no trouble. Every so often, I lift up the lid, drop in some scraps, and close it, no flies, no mess, no dirty fingers. I really like the stacked design, mostly because the bottom tray is the oldest, and extremely easy to harvest castings free of worms. <br />
The compost tumbler will…
Good advice, Converse. I must be one of the lucky ones that has no fruit fly trouble. I'm way too cheap to buy a worm bin, but my sister gave me a Can-O-Worms, and I have added table scraps to the top for 5 yrs with no trouble. Every so often, I lift up the lid, drop in some scraps, and close it, no flies, no mess, no dirty fingers. I really like the stacked design, mostly because the bottom tray is the oldest, and extremely easy to harvest castings free of worms. <br />
The compost tumbler will certainly work, of course, and so will a bucket, barrel, shoebox, etc. But it seems like such a waste to use a tumbler for a half-assed worm bin. Shoot, sell the tumbler for $200 and use a five gallon bucket for the worms. Converse, what style bin do you recomend? Or do you already have a discussion here somewhere? Thanks for your time and expertise.