WANTED: your input on proposed regulation of aquaponics in California - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T06:17:14Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/wanted-your-input-on-proposed-regulation-of-aquaponics-in?groupUrl=californiaaquaponics&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A3943&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A585399&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood question! I will inquir…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2017-03-01:4778851:Comment:6396722017-03-01T14:44:30.065ZPaul Trudeauhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PaulTrudeau
<p>Good question! I will inquire and report back any findings.</p>
<p>Good question! I will inquire and report back any findings.</p> This seems to be an old post.…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2017-02-22:4778851:Comment:6394792017-02-22T17:55:12.703ZJim Edmundshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimEdmunds
<p>This seems to be an old post. Can anyone update me on the status of this proposed legislation.</p>
<p>This seems to be an old post. Can anyone update me on the status of this proposed legislation.</p> I'm pretty sure that pond own…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-05-18:4778851:Comment:6061342015-05-18T18:12:17.136ZAveranhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AveranGale
<p>I'm pretty sure that pond owners aren't limited by regulations like these! People trade, give away or sell koi and goldfish all the time.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that pond owners aren't limited by regulations like these! People trade, give away or sell koi and goldfish all the time.</p> Thanks for the update Paul!
tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-13:4778851:Comment:5927662015-01-13T00:57:21.288ZFishy McFishersonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FishyMcFisherson
<p>Thanks for the update Paul!</p>
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<p>Thanks for the update Paul!</p>
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<p></p> Couple things:
I understand t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-12:4778851:Comment:5927542015-01-12T16:38:08.266ZPaul Trudeauhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PaulTrudeau
<p>Couple things:</p>
<p>I understand that a number of key people were unable to attend ADC meeting last week so issue was tabled to next meeting, which I think will be in a few months.</p>
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<p>Secondly, the unofficial impression I get is that the State realizes there's no way they can or should physically police the gazillion home aquaponics practitioners out there. I suspect they will rely more on education and the good sense of home practitioners. I think their regs re home…</p>
<p>Couple things:</p>
<p>I understand that a number of key people were unable to attend ADC meeting last week so issue was tabled to next meeting, which I think will be in a few months.</p>
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<p>Secondly, the unofficial impression I get is that the State realizes there's no way they can or should physically police the gazillion home aquaponics practitioners out there. I suspect they will rely more on education and the good sense of home practitioners. I think their regs re home aquaponics should reflect what makes sense environmentally and then I think most folks will have the good sense and will to follow those. I think it would make more sense for them to focus more attention on larger/commercial operations.</p> MikeH said:
Well, I can see…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-12:4778851:Comment:5926542015-01-12T15:56:58.225ZMichael Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelHall
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>MikeH said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/wanted-your-input-on-proposed-regulation-of-aquaponics-in?groupUrl=californiaaquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A592643&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment591946"><div class="xg_user_generated">Well, I can see how it can benefit the state to regulate the commercial growers although don't see how it benefits a hobbyist as myself.<br></br> I like your analogy with the…</div>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>MikeH said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/wanted-your-input-on-proposed-regulation-of-aquaponics-in?groupUrl=californiaaquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A592643&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment591946"><div class="xg_user_generated">Well, I can see how it can benefit the state to regulate the commercial growers although don't see how it benefits a hobbyist as myself.<br/> I like your analogy with the snakes although I can't see a comparison between an investment of a hundred dollars versus a couple thousand. If the general public put in as much research into raising reptiles as in there is involved in aquaponics then that wouldn't have happened.<br/> I just see all this as another way for the state to collect money for their coffers and to control the average person from doing something good, and that they enjoy.<br/> I guess I may have to head to this meeting if it is open to the public to voice my opinion.</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>I agree with MikeH on this, </strong></div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>Aquaponic growers are already have regulations on the type of fish we can have, so you burmese python analogy doesn't hold up, since the Pythons were not on an invasive species list, or the regulation was not enforced.</strong></div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>All that having the CDFW involved in small time home aquaponics systems is going to do is have us go underground.</strong></div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>Paul, you talk about disease control, is the CDFW going to come out and inspect our fish for diseases?, or are they just going to make up get registered and pay a fee.</strong></div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>If we do have to get registered and pay a fee then we should be able to call them with any fish problems and the should send someone out to help us.</strong></div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>IMHO, this is just another way for a CA State agency to expand, even more, into our lives.</strong></div>
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</blockquote> I was unable to attend the me…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-12:4778851:Comment:5926432015-01-12T01:48:09.469ZFishy McFishersonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FishyMcFisherson
<p>I was unable to attend the meeting as I'd hoped. Can anyone report back on the discussion and results?</p>
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<p>I was unable to attend the meeting as I'd hoped. Can anyone report back on the discussion and results?</p>
<p></p> Well, I can see how it can be…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-06:4778851:Comment:5919462015-01-06T14:21:42.120ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
Well, I can see how it can benefit the state to regulate the commercial growers although don't see how it benefits a hobbyist as myself.<br />
I like your analogy with the snakes although I can't see a comparison between an investment of a hundred dollars versus a couple thousand. If the general public put in as much research into raising reptiles as in there is involved in aquaponics then that wouldn't have happened.<br />
I just see all this as another way for the state to collect money for their coffers…
Well, I can see how it can benefit the state to regulate the commercial growers although don't see how it benefits a hobbyist as myself.<br />
I like your analogy with the snakes although I can't see a comparison between an investment of a hundred dollars versus a couple thousand. If the general public put in as much research into raising reptiles as in there is involved in aquaponics then that wouldn't have happened.<br />
I just see all this as another way for the state to collect money for their coffers and to control the average person from doing something good, and that they enjoy.<br />
I guess I may have to head to this meeting if it is open to the public to voice my opinion. Hi Mike,
I don't speak for th…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-06:4778851:Comment:5917562015-01-06T03:29:57.715ZPaul Trudeauhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PaulTrudeau
<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>I don't speak for the State or anyone else other than myself, but my own personal thoughts about the issues you raise are these: I think the remarkable growth of aquaponics in recent years (and hopefully continuing into the future) does pose legitimate concerns about increased risk of…</p>
<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>I don't speak for the State or anyone else other than myself, but my own personal thoughts about the issues you raise are these: I think the remarkable growth of aquaponics in recent years (and hopefully continuing into the future) does pose legitimate concerns about increased risk of <span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri; color: #1f497d; background-color: #ffffff; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">fish disease and proliferation of invasive species that may threaten commercial aquaculture and natural resources that we all share. Just because a personal aquaponics operation is used only for feeding one's family does not mean it does not contribute to these risks. By way of analogy, Burmese pythons were brought into the southeast US as pets, but that activity led to them being released and becoming an awful problem in the environment there. It may be that regulation could prevent a similar problem from occurring with aquaponics</span>, without unnecessarily impeding aquaponics practice. It's certainly worth considering, and I think that's what the State is doing at this point.</p> After reading all the replies…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-01-01:4778851:Comment:5914162015-01-01T18:26:47.378ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
<p>After reading all the replies, reading for numerous hours via the web, although still being new to aquaponics. Well, maybe I am missing something here but why would I volunteer to be regulated.? Why create a situation where I can be fined for doing something that feeds my family.? What is next; We volunteer to start paying fee's & have to register to grow in soil.? Pay a fee (Tax) on every fish we have or eat.?</p>
<p>If I am missing something here, please reply and set me straight…</p>
<p>After reading all the replies, reading for numerous hours via the web, although still being new to aquaponics. Well, maybe I am missing something here but why would I volunteer to be regulated.? Why create a situation where I can be fined for doing something that feeds my family.? What is next; We volunteer to start paying fee's & have to register to grow in soil.? Pay a fee (Tax) on every fish we have or eat.?</p>
<p>If I am missing something here, please reply and set me straight because I am not understanding this. I CAN see how it would benefit companies / Commercial growers, but not the private home grower that just wants to provide a healthy alternative for his wife and kids as I am doing.</p>