Use Summer Escapes 59" Kid's Pool For Growbed - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T09:50:59Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357099&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLOL
And sometimes the one wo…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-01:4778851:Comment:3574372012-07-01T00:36:27.668ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
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<p>And sometimes the one woman can get two men to come lift things for her for free.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p>
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<p>And sometimes the one woman can get two men to come lift things for her for free.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p> Why do you have to make so mu…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3572372012-06-30T21:14:20.291ZShean Smithhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SheanSmith
<p>Why do you have to make so much sense? :) In my reality I can’t do the fiberglass thing because I’m limited in motion. Constructing fiberglass tanks/growbeds to sell might be a beneficial undertaking for an able, enterprising person. However, I’m not that person because I’m limited in what I can do, I’m cheap (financially challenged), and I’m lazy as I can afford to be. :) Time’s not an issue though because I’m medically retired; however, I’m still practical when my exuberance hasn’t bested…</p>
<p>Why do you have to make so much sense? :) In my reality I can’t do the fiberglass thing because I’m limited in motion. Constructing fiberglass tanks/growbeds to sell might be a beneficial undertaking for an able, enterprising person. However, I’m not that person because I’m limited in what I can do, I’m cheap (financially challenged), and I’m lazy as I can afford to be. :) Time’s not an issue though because I’m medically retired; however, I’m still practical when my exuberance hasn’t bested my better judgement. Fiberglass isn’t practical for me, especially since stock tanks would be overall easier/cheaper (and will last as long I think). The pools are just a quick fix and are disposable over time. My boys also use them for washing the dog and cooling off. I like the idea of stock tank aquaponics because it’s appropriate for aqua-dummies such as me.</p>
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<p>What I’d like to do is take what I learn and share it in my community to advance aquaponics and food independence. I’m already in the process of making an aquaponics curriculum with Sylvia’s book as the text book. Then I’d like to set up a low cost aquaponics training opportunity for the northern Gulf Coast area for other poor aqua-dummies like me. I’m sure I’ll be seeking some aquainsight from you about the curriculum and classes.</p>
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<p>I agree and think stock tanks are the best value overall that requires no prep-work and very little maintenance. I’ve gone the IBC tote route over the last 4 months by buying new 3-330 gallon for $145 each, but painting and cutting them gets to be comparable to the stock tanks’ pricing except the stock tanks require no work other than drilling a hole for the siphon. I can’t in good conscience buy a used IBC and run the risk of contamination and/or going through the tedious effort of cleaning them out. Using cattle panels for a larger tank later is an excellent and affordable proposition that I will do.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-top: 0px;">Here’s a quote from a TV show I used to watch for you TCLynx: "Never send two men when one woman will do.” Thanks for all your input and wisdom.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357174&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment357174"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Just curious, doing fiberglass on the pools to make your own pools, how much do you think the materials would cost and how sturdy/durable do you think they would be?</p>
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<p>What I'm getting at here is if it costs like $35 just for the resin (let alone the fiberglass and anything else needed for the process) and if the fiberglass version might only last a little longer than the kiddie pools then it would get silly $$$$ to do it that way. But if the fiberglass version will last a lifetime (kinda like the stock tanks) and you can do it for under $50 in materials and you don't value your time that highly then I suppose making your own fiberglass beds might be ok. Of course at that rate if you are going to be making lots of fiberglass beds, perhaps you just build a mold shaped the way you want it and make fiberglass beds and skip the kiddie pools.</p>
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</blockquote> It gets expensive fast. There…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571782012-06-30T20:39:24.481ZKevin Gorhamhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kevin
<p>It gets expensive fast. There is a product called "west systems" that boat builders use. It is an epoxy resin, and much stronger than the bondo variety you find at Lowes or Home Depot. However it runs about 135$ a gallon, + hardener, + cloth. This product would last for ever.</p>
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<p>The bondo resin is not epoxy, some other material, but it is what surf boards are made of and if you add fiberglass cloth it will last for a long time. 2-3 coats would last a lifetime of normal use I…</p>
<p>It gets expensive fast. There is a product called "west systems" that boat builders use. It is an epoxy resin, and much stronger than the bondo variety you find at Lowes or Home Depot. However it runs about 135$ a gallon, + hardener, + cloth. This product would last for ever.</p>
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<p>The bondo resin is not epoxy, some other material, but it is what surf boards are made of and if you add fiberglass cloth it will last for a long time. 2-3 coats would last a lifetime of normal use I would think.</p>
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<p>The fiberglassing is expensive, and as you buy chemical masks, goggles, paint brushes, etc, the price can start to creep up on you. The benifit is that it you can do any sort of tank/size/shape you like.</p>
<p>Friendly fiberglasses 4x8 sheets of plywood then cuts and assembles them to their desiered size and shape. Tim does all their fish tanks this way, and builds filters right into the side of their large fish tanks. He started out as a boat builder however....</p>
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<p>After you cut and screw the wood together you need to go back and fiberglass all the corners and seams (after hitting them with a little 80 grit sandpaper). These tanks are totally customizable, and will last for ever, but they are expensive.</p>
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<p>In the case of the OP, I thought it might not be too bad because the pools are already water tight and should be strong enough. For 50-100 you could turn that kiddy pool into something that would last for ever.</p> Just curious, doing fiberglas…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571742012-06-30T20:07:04.524ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Just curious, doing fiberglass on the pools to make your own pools, how much do you think the materials would cost and how sturdy/durable do you think they would be?</p>
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<p>What I'm getting at here is if it costs like $35 just for the resin (let alone the fiberglass and anything else needed for the process) and if the fiberglass version might only last a little longer than the kiddie pools then it would get silly $$$$ to do it that way. But if the fiberglass version will last a…</p>
<p>Just curious, doing fiberglass on the pools to make your own pools, how much do you think the materials would cost and how sturdy/durable do you think they would be?</p>
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<p>What I'm getting at here is if it costs like $35 just for the resin (let alone the fiberglass and anything else needed for the process) and if the fiberglass version might only last a little longer than the kiddie pools then it would get silly $$$$ to do it that way. But if the fiberglass version will last a lifetime (kinda like the stock tanks) and you can do it for under $50 in materials and you don't value your time that highly then I suppose making your own fiberglass beds might be ok. Of course at that rate if you are going to be making lots of fiberglass beds, perhaps you just build a mold shaped the way you want it and make fiberglass beds and skip the kiddie pools.</p>
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<p></p> I don't think it was PT, but…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3573042012-06-30T19:00:23.534ZKevin Gorhamhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kevin
<p>I don't think it was PT, but it was a long while ago so I cant be certain.</p>
<p>I don't think it was PT, but it was a long while ago so I cant be certain.</p> Out of curiosity: did you use…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3570992012-06-30T18:56:24.256ZShean Smithhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SheanSmith
<p>Out of curiosity: did you use 3/4” pressure treated plywood?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>APguy01 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357096&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment356994"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the bed sheet would not be as strong as the fiber glass cloth, however it will be stronger than the resin on its own. I built 2 clarifiers out of 3/4…</p>
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<p>Out of curiosity: did you use 3/4” pressure treated plywood?<br/> <br/> <cite>APguy01 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357096&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment356994"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the bed sheet would not be as strong as the fiber glass cloth, however it will be stronger than the resin on its own. I built 2 clarifiers out of 3/4 plywood and resin (no cloth) because the wood was strong enough for the amount of water and the resin was simply for water proofing. I figured the Kiddy pools are designed to be strong enough to hold their fill of water, so the sheet+resin would provide a little longevity.</p>
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<p>If you wanted to get fancy, you can lay wax paper down in the pool and then as many layers of Fiber Glass and Cloth as you wanted, then simply pull it out like a mold and make as many beds as you would like. In that case, I would use the fiberglass cloth and do at least 2-3 layers.</p>
<p>As the resin hardens it releases a waxy substance onto the surface, so be sure to hit it with a scotch brite sponge and water in between layers to insure they stick to each other. You can also hit it with 80grit sand paper if you want to be really safe.</p>
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</blockquote> Oh, I see what you’re saying…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3570982012-06-30T18:42:45.791ZShean Smithhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SheanSmith
<p>Oh, I see what you’re saying now. You’re speaking of FG on the pools and not on wood. I was having a blond moment.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>APguy01 said:</cite></p>
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<p>Oh, I see what you’re saying now. You’re speaking of FG on the pools and not on wood. I was having a blond moment.<br/> <br/> <cite>APguy01 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357096&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment356994"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the bed sheet would not be as strong as the fiber glass cloth, however it will be stronger than the resin on its own. I built 2 clarifiers out of 3/4 plywood and resin (no cloth) because the wood was strong enough for the amount of water and the resin was simply for water proofing. I figured the Kiddy pools are designed to be strong enough to hold their fill of water, so the sheet+resin would provide a little longevity.</p>
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<p>If you wanted to get fancy, you can lay wax paper down in the pool and then as many layers of Fiber Glass and Cloth as you wanted, then simply pull it out like a mold and make as many beds as you would like. In that case, I would use the fiberglass cloth and do at least 2-3 layers.</p>
<p>As the resin hardens it releases a waxy substance onto the surface, so be sure to hit it with a scotch brite sponge and water in between layers to insure they stick to each other. You can also hit it with 80grit sand paper if you want to be really safe.</p>
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</blockquote> The bed sheet thing is a good…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571702012-06-30T18:38:44.111ZShean Smithhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SheanSmith
<p>The bed sheet thing is a good idea, but I’d use it as a base for teaching my sons how to make a fiberglass tank/growbed to sell in the future. I’m done with constructing wood growbeds and will opt for stock tanks now.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>APguy01 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357096&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment357164"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I…</p>
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<p>The bed sheet thing is a good idea, but I’d use it as a base for teaching my sons how to make a fiberglass tank/growbed to sell in the future. I’m done with constructing wood growbeds and will opt for stock tanks now.<br/> <br/> <cite>APguy01 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/use-summer-escapes-59-kid-s-pool-for-growbed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357096&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment357164"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I would buy a gallon of fiberglass resin from lowes and put a layer on the inside of the growbed to add strength! If you want to save money, use an old bed sheet instead of the fiber glass cloth. approx 35.00$ US for a gallon of the resin at Lowes.</p>
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</blockquote> Good for you; boycotting is a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571692012-06-30T18:34:37.037ZShean Smithhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SheanSmith
<p>Good for you; boycotting is a wonderful freedom we have as Americans and is a right I served to defend as a Marine. I’ve participated in boycotts as well. </p>
<p>Good for you; boycotting is a wonderful freedom we have as Americans and is a right I served to defend as a Marine. I’ve participated in boycotts as well. </p> Yes, the bed sheet would not…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3569942012-06-30T18:28:46.995ZKevin Gorhamhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kevin
<p>Yes, the bed sheet would not be as strong as the fiber glass cloth, however it will be stronger than the resin on its own. I built 2 clarifiers out of 3/4 plywood and resin (no cloth) because the wood was strong enough for the amount of water and the resin was simply for water proofing. I figured the Kiddy pools are designed to be strong enough to hold their fill of water, so the sheet+resin would provide a little longevity.</p>
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<p>If you wanted to get fancy, you can lay wax paper…</p>
<p>Yes, the bed sheet would not be as strong as the fiber glass cloth, however it will be stronger than the resin on its own. I built 2 clarifiers out of 3/4 plywood and resin (no cloth) because the wood was strong enough for the amount of water and the resin was simply for water proofing. I figured the Kiddy pools are designed to be strong enough to hold their fill of water, so the sheet+resin would provide a little longevity.</p>
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<p>If you wanted to get fancy, you can lay wax paper down in the pool and then as many layers of Fiber Glass and Cloth as you wanted, then simply pull it out like a mold and make as many beds as you would like. In that case, I would use the fiberglass cloth and do at least 2-3 layers.</p>
<p>As the resin hardens it releases a waxy substance onto the surface, so be sure to hit it with a scotch brite sponge and water in between layers to insure they stick to each other. You can also hit it with 80grit sand paper if you want to be really safe.</p>