traveling roots - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T21:14:47Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A601019&xg_raw_resources=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHello New to the site, I ha…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-10-27:4778851:Comment:6173092015-10-27T19:21:03.740ZEmilie Buttshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/EmilieButts
<p><br/>Hello New to the site, I have a lot to learn about Aquaponics, my question to you Jim Fisk is I saw your bell syphon, would you have plans pictures on how you made it and put it together, I have tried some others and didn't turn out very well, we are in the process of building a gr. house, all advise is very welcome. Emilie Butts</p>
<p><br/>Hello New to the site, I have a lot to learn about Aquaponics, my question to you Jim Fisk is I saw your bell syphon, would you have plans pictures on how you made it and put it together, I have tried some others and didn't turn out very well, we are in the process of building a gr. house, all advise is very welcome. Emilie Butts</p> Hello New to the site, I h…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-10-27:4778851:Comment:6173062015-10-27T19:19:39.477ZEmilie Buttshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/EmilieButts
<p><br></br> Hello New to the site, I have a lot to learn about Aquaponics, my question to you Jim Fisk is I saw your bell syphon, would you have plans pictures on how you made it and put it together, I have tried some others and didn't turn out very well, we are in the process of building a gr. house, all advise is very welcome. Emilie Butts</p>
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<p><br/> Hello New to the site, I have a lot to learn about Aquaponics, my question to you Jim Fisk is I saw your bell syphon, would you have plans pictures on how you made it and put it together, I have tried some others and didn't turn out very well, we are in the process of building a gr. house, all advise is very welcome. Emilie Butts</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600923#4778851Comment600923"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Jonathan, not sure what needs to be designed in regards to bell siphons. Just make a GG with slots that will cut off the roots. Mine are 4" pipe on my 3" bells and in 3+ years they have worked perfectly. I rotate the GG every few months, not weeks. I have now sold about 700 bell siphons and everyone is happy<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2684379759?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2684379759?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish NYC AA Chair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots#4778851Comment600559"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I have had roots grow over 2 feet up the siphon and down the stand pipe blocking flow. The answer for me is designing a siphon or drain that every few weeks you can clean the roots out. I have tried to prevent them with screens but that will block flow too.</p>
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</blockquote> @Vlad The only time I've seen…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-25:4778851:Comment:6008572015-03-25T20:12:39.879ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>@Vlad The only time I've seen roots like that is when a certain lady friend of mine decided to stop dyeing her hair.....</p>
<p>@Vlad The only time I've seen roots like that is when a certain lady friend of mine decided to stop dyeing her hair.....</p> Just for giggles...here are t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-25:4778851:Comment:6010222015-03-25T16:53:02.847ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Just for giggles...here are the roots of one of my pepper plants in such a 5 gallon bucket system. They can get quite large and get to travelling if you allow them...any bigger and this guy would need a passport...</p>
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<p>Just for giggles...here are the roots of one of my pepper plants in such a 5 gallon bucket system. They can get quite large and get to travelling if you allow them...any bigger and this guy would need a passport...</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265631?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265631?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> Hi Michael, Go to your local…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-25:4778851:Comment:6010192015-03-25T16:38:25.502ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Hi Michael, Go to your local hardware store and buy some 5 gallon paint strainers and line the inside of your buckets with one paint strainer a piece.</p>
<p>There is some confusion as to nomenclature going on which prompted folks to give you good advice...just not applicable to your situation. On this forum when you use the term "DWC" people think of "Deep Water Culture" troughs such as this one...pictured in the lower left hand corner is the type of drain that Jonathan (and everyone else,…</p>
<p>Hi Michael, Go to your local hardware store and buy some 5 gallon paint strainers and line the inside of your buckets with one paint strainer a piece.</p>
<p>There is some confusion as to nomenclature going on which prompted folks to give you good advice...just not applicable to your situation. On this forum when you use the term "DWC" people think of "Deep Water Culture" troughs such as this one...pictured in the lower left hand corner is the type of drain that Jonathan (and everyone else, including myself) were thinking of at first.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772266689?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772266689?profile=original" width="720" class="align-full"/></a> Here is that same DWC trough after I planted it...</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2684368758?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2684368758?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>These type of floating raft trough are what people in aquaponic-land generally think of when they see the term DWC being used (and in the realm of commercial hydro). While in the sphere of backyard hydroponics people generally seem to associate "DWC" with those 5 gallon bucket systems...So thanks for the pics. They really helped clarify things...At any rate, some paint strainers should help out with your travelling root problems...<br/> <br/> <cite>Michael Euteneier said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?xg_source=activity#4778851Comment600699"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I actually run a current or flow DWC system, started out with four, five gallon pots and a thirty gallon res. then then eight pots 50 gallon res. to 16 pots 150 gal res and throughout this summer switching to 900 gal fish pond and two 12x20 green houses. I tried doing pictures again well see' <br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish NYC AA Chair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600778&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600778"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I do mostly media beds but if I recall correctly a drain in a DWC grow bed is at the water line and drains the bed as an overflow. Water does not leave from the bottom but actually leaves from the top. Than should keep roots out.</p>
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<p>But I honestly never thought of circulating up higher, Just kinda tooling along like a lemming following what I had seen most do.</p>
<p>But I honestly never thought of circulating up higher, Just kinda tooling along like a lemming following what I had seen most do.</p> Michael Euteneier said:
I a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-24:4778851:Comment:6009372015-03-24T21:45:44.910ZMichael Euteneierhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelEuteneier
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Michael Euteneier said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600778&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600699"><div><p>I actually run a current or flow DWC system, started out with four, five gallon pots and a thirty gallon res. then then eight pots 50 gallon res. to 16 pots 150 gal res and throughout this summer switching to 900 gal fish pond and two 12x20 green houses. I…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Michael Euteneier said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600778&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600699"><div><p>I actually run a current or flow DWC system, started out with four, five gallon pots and a thirty gallon res. then then eight pots 50 gallon res. to 16 pots 150 gal res and throughout this summer switching to 900 gal fish pond and two 12x20 green houses. I tried doing pictures again well see' <br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish NYC AA Chair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600778&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600778"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I do mostly media beds but if I recall correctly a drain in a DWC grow bed is at the water line and drains the bed as an overflow. Water does not leave from the bottom but actually leaves from the top. Than should keep roots out.</p>
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</blockquote> I actually run a current or f…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-24:4778851:Comment:6006992015-03-24T21:40:47.508ZMichael Euteneierhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelEuteneier
<p>I actually run a current or flow DWC system, started out with four, five gallon pots and a thirty gallon res. then then eight pots 50 gallon res. to 16 pots 150 gal res and throughout this summer switching to 900 gal fish pond and two 12x20 green houses. I tried doing pictures again well see' <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jonathan Kadish NYC AA Chair said:…</cite></p>
<p>I actually run a current or flow DWC system, started out with four, five gallon pots and a thirty gallon res. then then eight pots 50 gallon res. to 16 pots 150 gal res and throughout this summer switching to 900 gal fish pond and two 12x20 green houses. I tried doing pictures again well see' <br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish NYC AA Chair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600778&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600778"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I do mostly media beds but if I recall correctly a drain in a DWC grow bed is at the water line and drains the bed as an overflow. Water does not leave from the bottom but actually leaves from the top. Than should keep roots out.</p>
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</blockquote> I do mostly media beds but if…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-24:4778851:Comment:6007782015-03-24T21:02:46.493ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>I do mostly media beds but if I recall correctly a drain in a DWC grow bed is at the water line and drains the bed as an overflow. Water does not leave from the bottom but actually leaves from the top. Than should keep roots out.</p>
<p>I do mostly media beds but if I recall correctly a drain in a DWC grow bed is at the water line and drains the bed as an overflow. Water does not leave from the bottom but actually leaves from the top. Than should keep roots out.</p> Thank you Jonathan, you hit…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-03-24:4778851:Comment:6009342015-03-24T19:56:34.787ZMichael Euteneierhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelEuteneier
<p><br></br> Thank you Jonathan, you hit the nail on the head. I am in the process of building my aquaponic system, im an old dirt grower for thirty years but I have seen the light, started with my first hydroponic system, the dwc , and have been amazed at the results, except this root problem, as I circulate my water through the bottom of each bucket the roots circulate with the flow, some times clogging the one inch line. my buckets are on aprx. 40 inch centers and the roots will travel into the…</p>
<p><br/> Thank you Jonathan, you hit the nail on the head. I am in the process of building my aquaponic system, im an old dirt grower for thirty years but I have seen the light, started with my first hydroponic system, the dwc , and have been amazed at the results, except this root problem, as I circulate my water through the bottom of each bucket the roots circulate with the flow, some times clogging the one inch line. my buckets are on aprx. 40 inch centers and the roots will travel into the adjoining bucket. I have attempeted to upload photos, but as this is my first time operating in a forum not sure im doing any of this correctly. I do appreciate the input. and I agree that bell siphon system is the way to go just haven't gotten there yet, have gathered all the materials for the new aquaponic set up and this weekend I begin actually constructing it. have a feeling you guys will get a few dumb questions out of me before im done.<br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish NYC AA Chair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600690&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600696"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Jim that actually is a good design that not everyone knows, but I think Michael's issue is in his DWC drain. My chard bed is the worst... needs maintenance once a month while lettuce never needs it.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/traveling-roots?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A600768&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment600923"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Jonathan, not sure what needs to be designed in regards to bell siphons. Just make a GG with slots that will cut off the roots. Mine are 4" pipe on my 3" bells and in 3+ years they have worked perfectly. I rotate the GG every few months, not weeks. I have now sold about 700 bell siphons and everyone is happy<a rel="nofollow" style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
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