Swirl vs. Plate filter - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T13:21:13Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/swirl-vs-plate-filter?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A566393&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Jim. We're going on d…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-08:4778851:Comment:5665962014-06-08T15:36:00.161ZJeremiah Robinsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeremiahRobinson
<p>Thanks Jim. We're going on day 3 now. These things are incredibly slow. We had no idea. </p>
<p>I don't mind the ribbing. I get bored if nobody disagrees with me.</p>
<p>Thanks Jim. We're going on day 3 now. These things are incredibly slow. We had no idea. </p>
<p>I don't mind the ribbing. I get bored if nobody disagrees with me.</p> Larry, you are so bad
I get t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-08:4778851:Comment:5668522014-06-08T13:12:09.393ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Larry, you are so bad<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"></img></a></p>
<p>I get the impression that Jere has heard it all before and I am sure he has. I almost told that same story but opted out. I love a person of conviction who lives their beliefs and I would die to have Lakota or Cherokee in my blood line. I have great respect and sadness for the way of life that was here before the "invasion" of greed. The Vikings were here long before and seemed to fit in far better than the brutal Spanish…</p>
<p>Larry, you are so bad<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"/></a></p>
<p>I get the impression that Jere has heard it all before and I am sure he has. I almost told that same story but opted out. I love a person of conviction who lives their beliefs and I would die to have Lakota or Cherokee in my blood line. I have great respect and sadness for the way of life that was here before the "invasion" of greed. The Vikings were here long before and seemed to fit in far better than the brutal Spanish and Brits. I almost married a beautiful girl that was Native American, Jewish and Russian. What a great combination. Still in touch 50 yrs later thanks to the internet.</p>
<p>Jeremiah, we also suffered thru a looonnng induction that turned into a C section in the end. We are all praying for you.</p> lol.....I was gonna come back…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-08:4778851:Comment:5667542014-06-08T03:50:14.303Zlarry poehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/larrypoe
<p>lol.....I was gonna come back and tell ya even john wayne converted in the end <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"></img></a> .......we have quite a few Mennonites and amish around here, and I always admired there way of life. its............quiet.</p>
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<p>btw I was gonna take pics today of where the greenhouse is going to be built.......cistern, brick room, cellar, ect ect..</p>
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<p>but we had a monster storm last night and I spent most of the day in the garden fixing the damage.…</p>
<p>lol.....I was gonna come back and tell ya even john wayne converted in the end <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"/></a>.......we have quite a few Mennonites and amish around here, and I always admired there way of life. its............quiet.</p>
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<p>btw I was gonna take pics today of where the greenhouse is going to be built.......cistern, brick room, cellar, ect ect..</p>
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<p>but we had a monster storm last night and I spent most of the day in the garden fixing the damage. building A frame trellis for 120 tomato plants and tying them ect ect. (ok so that part was overdue I just hadn't got to it yet lol)</p>
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<p>I will take some in the next few days and maybe see if you guys can think of any improvements to my design ideas</p>
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<p></p> Thanks Larry. I respect your…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-07:4778851:Comment:5667402014-06-07T22:53:44.661ZJeremiah Robinsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeremiahRobinson
<p>Thanks Larry. I respect your opinions too.</p>
<p>I think you're right in what you say. I really like those illustrations you give. The truth is that, apart from faith, there's no way that I'd make the choices I do. It just isn't practical. In the early days of Christianity (before Constantine), it was well-understood that we shouldn't use violence. Mennonites have basically just carried on that understanding.</p>
<p>I've actually seen that movie (my uncle's into John Wayne). If you…</p>
<p>Thanks Larry. I respect your opinions too.</p>
<p>I think you're right in what you say. I really like those illustrations you give. The truth is that, apart from faith, there's no way that I'd make the choices I do. It just isn't practical. In the early days of Christianity (before Constantine), it was well-understood that we shouldn't use violence. Mennonites have basically just carried on that understanding.</p>
<p>I've actually seen that movie (my uncle's into John Wayne). If you remember, John Wayne was converted to her point of view by the end <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif" style="font-size: 13px;"/> There are more of us than you think.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">I agree with the second part of your critique except for the fact that Jesus specifically said in a number of different ways that we should not solve our problems with violence. He didn't say, however, "thou shall not get on boats." If my house floods and a boat comes I'm gone. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">One way of putting it is that I'm willing to die for my faith, my country, my family, etc... But I'm not willing to kill for them.</span></p> jeremiah, I respect your posi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-07:4778851:Comment:5665722014-06-07T03:21:17.931Zlarry poehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/larrypoe
<p>jeremiah, I respect your position and admire someone who is so sure of there beliefs. that being said when I read your post 2 things came to mind and I had to write them down to tease a little <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"></img></a> .......not trying to change your mind or any insult intended btw.....just a little ribbing <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a></p>
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<p>first thing I thought of was an old john wayne movie "angel and the bad man" where the girl ( quaker/ "friends")…</p>
<p>jeremiah, I respect your position and admire someone who is so sure of there beliefs. that being said when I read your post 2 things came to mind and I had to write them down to tease a little <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"/></a>.......not trying to change your mind or any insult intended btw.....just a little ribbing <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
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<p>first thing I thought of was an old john wayne movie "angel and the bad man" where the girl ( quaker/ "friends") is telling johns character there beliefs on violence........spelling out that guns can hurt the body but not the soul....ect that the only person someone can hurt is themselves....john asks her if somebody poked her in the eye wouldn't that hurt and she said.....well physically yes but the real damage would be to the soul of the person doing the hitting.......john asks her if there are many "friends" like her (quaker) and she says well actually no.........john says,, I sorta figured <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
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<p>I was also reminded of another story.....</p>
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<p>a devout religious man was sitting on the roof of his house during a bad storm and eminent flood.......a truck comes by and the driver tells the man to get in.......the man says no thanks god will save me........awhile later, the first story of the house flooded, a boat comes by and the driver says get in.....man says no thanks god will save me.......awhile later, water past the second story and starting up on the roof, a helicopter comes by and the pilot says to the man, get in.....man says no thanks god will save me.......awhile later the water engulfs the house and the man drowns.....standing before god he asks the question " I showed everyone who came by my faith in you, why didn't you save me" god says " I sent you a truck, a boat, and a helicopter" <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
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<p>sometimes you just got to be able see when you have been given the tools to help yourself.....and remember the wolf story??? both wolves killed, it was the motives for the killing that made the difference.</p> Also, thanks so much for the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-07:4778851:Comment:5667312014-06-07T01:47:23.861ZJeremiah Robinsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeremiahRobinson
<p>Also, thanks so much for the generous offer of refuge if trouble comes. That means a lot, truly. I'll remember the name Shady Valley.</p>
<p>Also, thanks so much for the generous offer of refuge if trouble comes. That means a lot, truly. I'll remember the name Shady Valley.</p> Hey Guys,
I do have a baby to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-07:4778851:Comment:5666502014-06-07T00:36:43.387ZJeremiah Robinsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeremiahRobinson
<p>Hey Guys,</p>
<p>I do have a baby to think about, but things with the induction are going so slowly we've got nothing but time, it seems. </p>
<p>@Larry - that's quite an animal you've got there. I would have loved to see him compete. </p>
<p>No relation to Larry Robinson, I'm afraid. </p>
<p>I'm a huge fan of moving water (i.e. waterfalls). Both the sound and the way they reflect light. I can spend all day next to one. I've long wanted to find a way to use one in my garden, but…</p>
<p>Hey Guys,</p>
<p>I do have a baby to think about, but things with the induction are going so slowly we've got nothing but time, it seems. </p>
<p>@Larry - that's quite an animal you've got there. I would have loved to see him compete. </p>
<p>No relation to Larry Robinson, I'm afraid. </p>
<p>I'm a huge fan of moving water (i.e. waterfalls). Both the sound and the way they reflect light. I can spend all day next to one. I've long wanted to find a way to use one in my garden, but haven't found the time or energy to make it happen.</p>
<p>I love those Lakota stories! They understood so much better than we do what it is to be in partnership with land and animals (notice I didn't use the term <em>our)</em>. It is so hard to be the good wolf sometimes. American pop culture and our fear-based news seem desperate to call out the bad wolf. It's easier to make money off the bad wolf.</p>
<p>My wife's family is part Cherokee. The Lakota and the Cherokee were related. They were also two of the least violent societies ever to exist. One tradition that they both shared which Sara and I are going to carry on is passing names down through the women. For some reason, societies around the world which had this custom fought many fewer wars and had less division between rich and poor.</p>
<p>@ Jim. I think you might not realize how deep the peace thing goes with me. I'm Mennonite, which means I'm part of a 600 year long tradition of turning your cheek and doing good to those who harm you. We've been through much worse than is likely to happen on this continent, and not resorted to killing. I think we can go a while longer <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif" style="font-size: 13px;"/><span style="font-size: 13px;"> Most Mennonites are rural. I just happen to be part of an urban community. All guns can do is hurt my daughter's body and perhaps her mind. Her soul is beyond their reach.</span></p>
<p></p> almost forgot.....jeremiah, t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-06:4778851:Comment:5668092014-06-06T22:39:37.792Zlarry poehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/larrypoe
<p>almost forgot.....jeremiah, there is a small waterfall in that goldfish pond but a larger pond is planned nearby with a bigger fall (koi pond)......no its not where im building the greenhouse, its west of the house between the house and rabbit barn. it was accualy built to put the ashes of my all time favorite hound GRNTCHGRCH Robinsons English Looser. the dog I took to the finals of the world hunt in 2007. his ashes are under that goldfish pond.</p>
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<p>I bought him from a guy named…</p>
<p>almost forgot.....jeremiah, there is a small waterfall in that goldfish pond but a larger pond is planned nearby with a bigger fall (koi pond)......no its not where im building the greenhouse, its west of the house between the house and rabbit barn. it was accualy built to put the ashes of my all time favorite hound GRNTCHGRCH Robinsons English Looser. the dog I took to the finals of the world hunt in 2007. his ashes are under that goldfish pond.</p>
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<p>I bought him from a guy named Larry Robinson in Boone IA......been meaning to ask if you were related to him but keep forgetting.</p> there is some truth in what j…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-06:4778851:Comment:5667212014-06-06T21:18:02.880Zlarry poehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/larrypoe
<p>there is some truth in what jeremiah said about the mix of culture in the city vrs the rural setting where pretty much everyone has the same "ideals". IMO the difference is that as rural we see things as they are, and "urbanites" tend to see things as the wish they were. Nature for instance, since jeremiah already wrote a very nice comparison to our AP systems and an ecosystem in nature, and our ability to learn how things connect through them. when an urbanite sees or thinks about it, they…</p>
<p>there is some truth in what jeremiah said about the mix of culture in the city vrs the rural setting where pretty much everyone has the same "ideals". IMO the difference is that as rural we see things as they are, and "urbanites" tend to see things as the wish they were. Nature for instance, since jeremiah already wrote a very nice comparison to our AP systems and an ecosystem in nature, and our ability to learn how things connect through them. when an urbanite sees or thinks about it, they see a balanced setting where everything depends on something else. for the most part that's true. what they don't see or think about is the exact things we rural folks know to be the truth. Nature isn't about balance, its a world of extremes. where a rabbit breeds to the point it depletes its food supply and overpopulation leads to plague and a crash....bobcats have larger litters from the excessive food supply while it lasts, only to starve out when disease hits the bunnys and there numbers crash too.</p>
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<p>my grandmother taught me a couple storys that sorta puts all this in perspective....her mother was Lakota and these are ideas that got passed along....</p>
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<p>an old man was sitting watching the camp around him when a young boy came up and asked him a question. "uncle (every male was Uncle rather related or not) will I be a good man or a bad one?" the old man answered " every man has 2 wolves inside him. a good wolf who cares for the pack, feeds his young, and protects the ones who cant protect themselves.........and a killer who takes without asking, kills with no remorse, and preys on the helpless." "what kind of man you will be depends on what wolf you feed"</p>
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<p>"when the animals first saw First Man, he was naked, cold, and helpless. they all got togather to talk because they felt sorry for First Man and wanted to help.</p>
<p>Owl said, "man is stupid, I will give him wisdom so he can survive"</p>
<p>Deer said "man is slow, I will give him my speed so he can survive"</p>
<p>Beaver said "man is cold, I will teach him to build a house and change the world around him to survive"</p>
<p>Real Cat (cougar) said man is weak and afraid. I will teach him to be brave and strong so he can survive"</p>
<p>Wolf said " I will teach him to hunt as a pack so he can survive"</p>
<p>Coyote said "i will teach him to be cunning so he can survive"</p>
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<p>Later after all these gifts were given, the animals got back togather to talk about how they had helped First Man. Owl said " I saw man in the forest today. he is wise, he is fast, he is cunning, he is brave and strong, he hunts as a pack, and he changes the world to fit his needs. I am very afraid"</p>
<p></p> Jeremiah, don't you have a ba…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-06-06:4778851:Comment:5667172014-06-06T20:14:31.836ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Jeremiah, don't you have a baby to think about? <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a></p>
<p>Hey, all your city neighbors that are as decent as you are are welcome out here in the mountains when the SHTF. Bring them along and we can all work together. I don't care a whit what color they are or what language they speak as long as they pull their weight according to their abilities. No commune here, just hard work and caring for one another and good times.</p>
<p>Hey ck out Local Salads…</p>
<p>Jeremiah, don't you have a baby to think about? <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
<p>Hey, all your city neighbors that are as decent as you are are welcome out here in the mountains when the SHTF. Bring them along and we can all work together. I don't care a whit what color they are or what language they speak as long as they pull their weight according to their abilities. No commune here, just hard work and caring for one another and good times.</p>
<p>Hey ck out Local Salads out of Bahrain on FB. Wow, this guy has built quite a business. Jeremiah will take heart in his op. Just what you are dreaming of in your town. Still can't tell if it is AP or HP but the produce looks amazing. Just a good old boy starting small and growing to Biblical proportions.</p>