Salmon in Aquaponics? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T09:14:28Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A263378&feed=yes&xn_auth=nonear by where? im looking for…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-05-20:4778851:Comment:6061762015-05-20T05:00:28.259ZScott Schrumphttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ScottSchrump
<p>near by where? im looking for salmon for my aquaponics.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jeremiah Robinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A261365&page=10#4778851Comment573153"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm hopefully going to try in this year, as an experiment. There's a hatchery nearby.</p>
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<p>near by where? im looking for salmon for my aquaponics.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jeremiah Robinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A261365&page=10#4778851Comment573153"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm hopefully going to try in this year, as an experiment. There's a hatchery nearby.</p>
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I'm…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-05-20:4778851:Comment:6061732015-05-20T03:37:29.281ZScott Schrumphttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ScottSchrump
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jeremiah Robinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A261365&page=10#4778851Comment573153"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm hopefully going to try in this year, as an experiment. There's a hatchery nearby.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jeremiah Robinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A261365&page=10#4778851Comment573153"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm hopefully going to try in this year, as an experiment. There's a hatchery nearby.</p>
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</blockquote> I'm hopefully going to try in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-07-30:4778851:Comment:5731532014-07-30T21:15:05.478ZJeremiah Robinsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeremiahRobinson
<p>I'm hopefully going to try in this year, as an experiment. There's a hatchery nearby.</p>
<p>I'm hopefully going to try in this year, as an experiment. There's a hatchery nearby.</p> You just need MORE bio-filtra…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-02-08:4778851:Comment:5465202014-02-08T16:05:16.145ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>You just need MORE bio-filtration to get enough of it to support running at cooler temperatures. Many people grow trout in aquaponics, trout are not that different from salmon really. There are plenty of landlocked salmon.</p>
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<p>The question of is it financially worth it, well that is the big question.</p>
<p>You just need MORE bio-filtration to get enough of it to support running at cooler temperatures. Many people grow trout in aquaponics, trout are not that different from salmon really. There are plenty of landlocked salmon.</p>
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<p>The question of is it financially worth it, well that is the big question.</p> I met with the owner of a com…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-30:4778851:Comment:5445842014-01-30T13:09:03.206ZJohn Lysfjordhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnLysfjord
<p>I met with the owner of a commercial salmon hatchery last month to find out if it would be possible to connect an aquaponic system to an existing hatchery. Based on what I've read in this discussion thread, this might be of interest to you all.</p>
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<p>This was a hatchery in Norway that produces about 2.5M fingerlings/smolt per year in fresh water for the salmon farm industry. Once the fingerlings reach mature age, they are sold to ocean-based salmon farms. These ocean-based systems…</p>
<p>I met with the owner of a commercial salmon hatchery last month to find out if it would be possible to connect an aquaponic system to an existing hatchery. Based on what I've read in this discussion thread, this might be of interest to you all.</p>
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<p>This was a hatchery in Norway that produces about 2.5M fingerlings/smolt per year in fresh water for the salmon farm industry. Once the fingerlings reach mature age, they are sold to ocean-based salmon farms. These ocean-based systems are based in the fjords of Norway where strong currents ensure sufficient water flow. So you can still make money from selling salmon, although you may sell it to a salmon farm instead of the consumer market.</p>
<p><br/>When I asked about what they did with all the waste from the fish, they responded that they had to filter it out. They had been considering to use a centrifuge to filter out the fish waste from the water, and then sell the dry waste as fertilizer, but the cost of running such an operation would not be covered by the revenue from the fertilizer they produced.<br/><br/>I am considering to approach this salmon hatchery to setup a small pilot project, but I'd like to hear from someone with experience from cold water aquaponics. I.e. where water is just above freezing. How do you get the bacteria established? Both nitrosomonas and nitrobacter aren't too happy at such low temperatures. </p>
<p></p> Good info . wonder what are t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-23:4778851:Comment:5433042014-01-23T16:57:29.296Zjohn galthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/johngalt
<p>Good info . wonder what are the temp requirements?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Curt Meilicke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A543303&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment543303"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Just want to point out, there are a number of salmon species that have come to call Lake Michigan home. Don't know how they were initially 'adjusted' to stay in the fresh water. …</p>
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<p>Good info . wonder what are the temp requirements?<br/> <br/> <cite>Curt Meilicke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/salmon-in-aquaponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A543303&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment543303"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Just want to point out, there are a number of salmon species that have come to call Lake Michigan home. Don't know how they were initially 'adjusted' to stay in the fresh water. But there is now a complete cycle of growth and spawning that occurs. It takes the hand of the DNR to gather eggs, hatch them, grow them to fry, and release them. But the point is there are salmon that live entirely in fresh water. The specific species are listed here.</p>
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</blockquote> Just want to point out, there…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-23:4778851:Comment:5433032014-01-23T16:42:08.958ZCurt Meilickehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/CurtMeilicke
<p>Just want to point out, there are a number of salmon species that have come to call Lake Michigan home. Don't know how they were initially 'adjusted' to stay in the fresh water. But there is now a complete cycle of growth and spawning that occurs. It takes the hand of the DNR to gather eggs, hatch them, grow them to fry, and release them. But the point is there are salmon that live entirely in fresh water. The specific species are listed here.</p>
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<p>Just want to point out, there are a number of salmon species that have come to call Lake Michigan home. Don't know how they were initially 'adjusted' to stay in the fresh water. But there is now a complete cycle of growth and spawning that occurs. It takes the hand of the DNR to gather eggs, hatch them, grow them to fry, and release them. But the point is there are salmon that live entirely in fresh water. The specific species are listed here.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.michigancharterboats.com/species.html">http://www.michigancharterboats.com/species.html</a></p> I am with you Sylvia. Salmon…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-23:4778851:Comment:5428992014-01-23T03:23:45.794Zjohn galthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/johngalt
<p>I am with you Sylvia. Salmon is a saltwater fish. I have caught them in the Atlantic, Pacific and the Salmon River in upstate NY. As fry they are in freshwater, then swim to the sea where they live until it is time to spawn and then they head back up the same creek in which they were hatched. Not really sure how to explain how they would live in a freshwater system besides, saltwater is not really conducive to growing plants which require freshwater. unless maybe you are growing sea beans?…</p>
<p>I am with you Sylvia. Salmon is a saltwater fish. I have caught them in the Atlantic, Pacific and the Salmon River in upstate NY. As fry they are in freshwater, then swim to the sea where they live until it is time to spawn and then they head back up the same creek in which they were hatched. Not really sure how to explain how they would live in a freshwater system besides, saltwater is not really conducive to growing plants which require freshwater. unless maybe you are growing sea beans? hehehe</p>
<p></p> Converse, I did read this and…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-12-23:4778851:Comment:5378682013-12-23T14:33:49.767ZAnthony Paynehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AnthonyPayne
<p>Converse, I did read this and you’ve mentioned it to me on another topic. Koknee is not what they are doing it's choho. Choho are not land locked salmon that have thousands of year to change to their habitat. I like koknee very much they do not taste like sea run salmon. I think the choho may just grow to 1-2 lbs die off early and not spawn. Is would not be a sustainable. I don't think the fish can take that radical change without problems. D.F.G. Has made a triployd (not sure of…</p>
<p>Converse, I did read this and you’ve mentioned it to me on another topic. Koknee is not what they are doing it's choho. Choho are not land locked salmon that have thousands of year to change to their habitat. I like koknee very much they do not taste like sea run salmon. I think the choho may just grow to 1-2 lbs die off early and not spawn. Is would not be a sustainable. I don't think the fish can take that radical change without problems. D.F.G. Has made a triployd (not sure of spelling)trout it's a frankenfish. They grow fast big and don't bread. I do not like to think that my food should be altered at the chromosome. Fun to catch, but I don't eat them. But market is asking for full on salmon that taste like salmon. I'm looking into raising koknee since you mentioned it to me. I think that if you can name a beer, then you can sell the fish.</p>
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<p>John good luck on the koknee, please keep us up to date.</p> Back on Dec 7th or so (I thin…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-12-23:4778851:Comment:5380302013-12-23T03:06:17.182ZConversehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Converse
<p>Back on Dec 7th or so (I think 2011) I replied about raising Kokanee, which are just landlocked Sockeye salmon. These are a true pacific salmon species. And while they do require cooler water, there are plants that will grow in the conditions that they require. and yes, water quality may be a huge part of the AP daily watch...but the day may be coming when it will be well worth the effort. People are starting to sit up and take notice about where their pacific salmon are swimming in the…</p>
<p>Back on Dec 7th or so (I think 2011) I replied about raising Kokanee, which are just landlocked Sockeye salmon. These are a true pacific salmon species. And while they do require cooler water, there are plants that will grow in the conditions that they require. and yes, water quality may be a huge part of the AP daily watch...but the day may be coming when it will be well worth the effort. People are starting to sit up and take notice about where their pacific salmon are swimming in the wild. A kokanee raised on a 'natural diet" may just be what sells well. But not even considering a commercial outlet, I would be happier eating a salmon I know was raised not in water that passed by Hanford, or fish that migrated in the Japanese currents of the Pacific Ocean. Yes, I live in Washington, and I do eat salmon out of the Columbia River. We are seriously looking into a system to raise kokanee...Stay tuned....</p>
<p> Yes, it takes them a while to mature, but in the mean time they will be providing the "fuel" for growing the veggies. After the first three/four years (each year adding another group of juveniles) there will be a yearly harvest of fish available. Not a fast turn over, so it would need to be something a person really wants to invest their time in. Of course, unless you are raising them to spawn, they can always be harvested prior to the 3/4 years.</p>
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<p>So Jon, I am really interested in how things go for you this year! Wishing you the best with your kokanee eggs!</p>
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