Question regarding the safety of sodium thiosulfate to dechlorinate water - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T09:08:59Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/question-regarding-the-safety?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A97603&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI've read through our threads…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-06-07:4778851:Comment:6072342015-06-07T16:37:04.129ZHank Palocihttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HankPaloci
<p>I've read through our threads, and I can't seem to find a good answer for whether thiosulfate (e.g. Seachem Prime) is harmful. The wiki page suggests not: thiosulfate is even used for certain medical purposes, as when a patient is fully of heavy metals and radioactive molecules in particular. The chemical can bind to heavy metals, which allows it to pass through the patient's kidneys -- useful.</p>
<p>I've been treating my water with the stuff for 2 years and neither the fish nor the plants…</p>
<p>I've read through our threads, and I can't seem to find a good answer for whether thiosulfate (e.g. Seachem Prime) is harmful. The wiki page suggests not: thiosulfate is even used for certain medical purposes, as when a patient is fully of heavy metals and radioactive molecules in particular. The chemical can bind to heavy metals, which allows it to pass through the patient's kidneys -- useful.</p>
<p>I've been treating my water with the stuff for 2 years and neither the fish nor the plants seem to mind.</p>
<p>But I'm revisiting this now because I'm harvesting fish and they taste funny. Bad funny. Last year we harvested a few and they tasted really bad -- that was how I learned the hard way about purging my fish.</p>
<p>So I did it *right this time. And I pulled one fish (tilapia) last week ... we'd been feeding that tank corn meal only and not much of it for 10 days. The bad taste was not nearly as bad but still noticeable. And it got me to thinking.</p>
<p>Sodium thiosulfate is sulfur based. Could the sulfur be lingering in the fish? And could it be that plants don't generally take up sulfur such that their taste would change?</p>
<p>I would find it hard to believe that Seachem Prime would be harmful to humans because if it was harmful the fish would die or show signs of disease. But could it be that it affects flavor?</p> Here is some information from…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-04:4778851:Comment:2606002011-12-04T19:23:13.053ZBrianhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Brian649
<p>Here is some information from the manufacturer re: Cloram-X:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.koidepot.com/pdf/ClorAm-XDataSheet.pdf">http://www.koidepot.com/pdf/ClorAm-XDataSheet.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here is some information from the manufacturer re: Cloram-X:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.koidepot.com/pdf/ClorAm-XDataSheet.pdf">http://www.koidepot.com/pdf/ClorAm-XDataSheet.pdf</a></p> There is no known acute toxic…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-04:4778851:Comment:2606552011-12-04T05:39:00.642ZIzzyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/aquaponics
<p>There is no known acute toxicity in humans or fish for the chemical compound sodium thiosulfate.</p>
<p>There is no known acute toxicity in humans or fish for the chemical compound sodium thiosulfate.</p> You might want to check into…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-04:4778851:Comment:2604452011-12-04T03:40:29.356ZBrianhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Brian649
<p>You might want to check into Cloram-X. It's a bonding agent. It will require a testing kit that will test water treated with it. I found one on Amazon for no more than the traditional test kit prices. It takes very few grams to treat a whole lot of water (100's of gallons).</p>
<p>You might want to check into Cloram-X. It's a bonding agent. It will require a testing kit that will test water treated with it. I found one on Amazon for no more than the traditional test kit prices. It takes very few grams to treat a whole lot of water (100's of gallons).</p> To my knowledge, Chloram-X is…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1621032011-07-23T23:18:19.257ZRebecca Bhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RebeccaBranham
<p>To my knowledge, Chloram-X is the only aquarium water conditioner that says it is "non-toxic" to food fish and invertebrates---but check the MSDS. I personally would not use it with fish I am going to eat; it contains formaldehyde. And it binds ammonia; you don't want that. </p>
<p><a href="http://theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners" target="_blank">http://theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners</a></p>
<p>To my knowledge, Chloram-X is the only aquarium water conditioner that says it is "non-toxic" to food fish and invertebrates---but check the MSDS. I personally would not use it with fish I am going to eat; it contains formaldehyde. And it binds ammonia; you don't want that. </p>
<p><a href="http://theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners" target="_blank">http://theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners</a></p> What about Seechem Prime? Do…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1620052011-07-23T22:39:16.345ZLonny Harperhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LonnyHarper
<p>What about Seechem Prime? Does anybody know if that is safe. I've tried contacting the company with no luck yet (it is the weekend though).</p>
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<p>What about Seechem Prime? Does anybody know if that is safe. I've tried contacting the company with no luck yet (it is the weekend though).</p>
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<p>Lonny</p> Last I checked it takes an el…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1618172011-07-23T19:09:03.760ZGary Collinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GaryCollins
<p>Last I checked it takes an electro something ion exchange method to remove the fluoride. fluoride molecules are smaller than H2O and so filtration is impossible. no wonder we're all sedated.</p>
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<p>Last I checked it takes an electro something ion exchange method to remove the fluoride. fluoride molecules are smaller than H2O and so filtration is impossible. no wonder we're all sedated.</p>
<p> </p> You need a pretty specialized…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1614672011-07-23T16:41:14.542ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>You need a pretty specialized filter to remove Flouride, I don't think RO will take care of that for you. (I've heard of some filters that are supposedly able to remove flouride.)</p>
<p>Actually the Reverse Osmosis membranes themselves won't take care of chlorine either and most RO filters include pre-filters to take care of sediment and carbon filters to take care of chlorine and other chemicals and then the RO filter takes care of removing stuff like salt and calcium carbonate etc.</p>
<p>You need a pretty specialized filter to remove Flouride, I don't think RO will take care of that for you. (I've heard of some filters that are supposedly able to remove flouride.)</p>
<p>Actually the Reverse Osmosis membranes themselves won't take care of chlorine either and most RO filters include pre-filters to take care of sediment and carbon filters to take care of chlorine and other chemicals and then the RO filter takes care of removing stuff like salt and calcium carbonate etc.</p> Hey what about Reverse Osmosi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1618112011-07-23T16:16:56.329ZGary Collinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GaryCollins
Hey what about Reverse Osmosis? Man they're killin' us ain't they. Not to mention the Fluoride...<br/>
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<cite>Gary Collins said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/comment/show?id=4778851%3AComment%3A161810&xn_out=json&firstPage=0&lastPage=1&_=1311437429481&xg_token=308be1f886689843328a79799fea81d6#4778851Comment161810"><div><p>Good Info, Thanks.</p>
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Hey what about Reverse Osmosis? Man they're killin' us ain't they. Not to mention the Fluoride...<br/>
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<cite>Gary Collins said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/comment/show?id=4778851%3AComment%3A161810&xn_out=json&firstPage=0&lastPage=1&_=1311437429481&xg_token=308be1f886689843328a79799fea81d6#4778851Comment161810"><div><p>Good Info, Thanks.</p>
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</blockquote> Good Info, Thanks.
tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1618102011-07-23T16:10:27.927ZGary Collinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GaryCollins
<p>Good Info, Thanks.</p>
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<p>Good Info, Thanks.</p>
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