Plumbing and flood and drain cycle - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T21:50:01Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/plumbing-and-flood-and-drain?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A306987&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks TC and EL RAY!
Instead…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-16:4778851:Comment:3360272012-05-16T01:31:55.881Zbong sacayhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/bongsacay
<p>Thanks TC and EL RAY!</p>
<p>Instead of pursuing the timer, I opted to assemble a siphon. After 2 attempts, I finally got the system filling and draining in about 8 minutes per cycle with pump running 24/7. Happy to report that tomatoes and "kangkong" are doing very well.</p>
<p>Next project will be a bigger system after I complete the hardware.</p>
<p>Thanks again guys!</p>
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<p>Thanks TC and EL RAY!</p>
<p>Instead of pursuing the timer, I opted to assemble a siphon. After 2 attempts, I finally got the system filling and draining in about 8 minutes per cycle with pump running 24/7. Happy to report that tomatoes and "kangkong" are doing very well.</p>
<p>Next project will be a bigger system after I complete the hardware.</p>
<p>Thanks again guys!</p>
<p></p> I'm not comparing to micro gr…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3072112012-03-16T18:03:14.379ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>I'm not comparing to micro greens. I'm talking about three systems side by side with the same kinds of beds and same kinds of plants. One running constant flood, another with siphons and another timed flood and drain.</p>
<p>Here is the link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8621#p253752" target="_blank">BYAP Trials</a></p>
<p>decide for yourself.</p>
<p>I'm not comparing to micro greens. I'm talking about three systems side by side with the same kinds of beds and same kinds of plants. One running constant flood, another with siphons and another timed flood and drain.</p>
<p>Here is the link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8621#p253752" target="_blank">BYAP Trials</a></p>
<p>decide for yourself.</p> Comparing continuous flow med…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3068742012-03-16T17:39:35.957ZEL RAYhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ELRAY
<p>Comparing continuous flow media beds to ebb n flow microgreens is like comparing apples to oranges.</p>
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<p>Comparing continuous flow media beds to ebb n flow microgreens is like comparing apples to oranges.</p>
<p></p> 15 minute per hour is not req…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3069872012-03-16T13:50:55.201ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>15 minute per hour is not required. It is just very common. People use all sorts of different cycles and the truth is, most of them work. Many people have siphons in beds that only take a couple minutes to drain and then refill again in less than ten minutes. And there are some systems that have beds that are constant flow/constant flood and they do well also. Just make sure there is plenty of aeration and enough flow to keep the bed from going anaerobic. BYAP is running trials where…</p>
<p>15 minute per hour is not required. It is just very common. People use all sorts of different cycles and the truth is, most of them work. Many people have siphons in beds that only take a couple minutes to drain and then refill again in less than ten minutes. And there are some systems that have beds that are constant flow/constant flood and they do well also. Just make sure there is plenty of aeration and enough flow to keep the bed from going anaerobic. BYAP is running trials where one system is constant flood another is timed flood and drain and another is siphon flood and drain and all three are doing pretty well to the point that many people are adding additional beds as constant flood.</p> Hola, the 15 min per hour is…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3070222012-03-16T05:07:33.188ZEL RAYhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ELRAY
<p>Hola, the 15 min per hour is nessasary to prevent anaerobic conditions from occurring when the gravelbed is acting as the biological filter,it needs to stay aerobic. Throw in some worms to help compost the bed and actively prevent blockage from occurring will keep conditions healthy and happy.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>bong sacay said:…</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/plumbing-and-flood-and-drain#4778851Comment306926"></blockquote>
<p>Hola, the 15 min per hour is nessasary to prevent anaerobic conditions from occurring when the gravelbed is acting as the biological filter,it needs to stay aerobic. Throw in some worms to help compost the bed and actively prevent blockage from occurring will keep conditions healthy and happy.<br/> <br/> <cite>bong sacay said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/plumbing-and-flood-and-drain#4778851Comment306926"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><br/> Hi to all, another newbie here with the same situation.</p>
<p>My question is, when using a timer, the flood and drain cycle will be limited to the number programmable times. The timer I saw from the local hardware store can only be programmed only up to 8 sequences or times per day. Is 8 cycles enough for a small start up 1:1 system of about 90 liters FT and GB? </p>
<p>Would appreciate a comment / advice so that I could get the set up started. Thanks.</p>
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<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Bong</p>
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</blockquote> I would recommend finding a 1…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3067592012-03-16T01:08:24.262ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>I would recommend finding a 15 minute increment mechanical timer if you can. Otherwise I would say run constant flood and just let the pump run 24/7 which will probably cycle the system up faster anyway.</p>
<p>I would recommend finding a 15 minute increment mechanical timer if you can. Otherwise I would say run constant flood and just let the pump run 24/7 which will probably cycle the system up faster anyway.</p> Hi to all, another newbie he…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3069262012-03-16T01:04:04.595Zbong sacayhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/bongsacay
<p><br></br> Hi to all, another newbie here with the same situation.</p>
<p>My question is, when using a timer, the flood and drain cycle will be limited to the number programmable times. The timer I saw from the local hardware store can only be programmed only up to 8 sequences or times per day. Is 8 cycles enough for a small start up 1:1 system of about 90 liters FT and GB? </p>
<p>Would appreciate a comment / advice so that I could get the set up started. Thanks.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Best…</p>
<p><br/> Hi to all, another newbie here with the same situation.</p>
<p>My question is, when using a timer, the flood and drain cycle will be limited to the number programmable times. The timer I saw from the local hardware store can only be programmed only up to 8 sequences or times per day. Is 8 cycles enough for a small start up 1:1 system of about 90 liters FT and GB? </p>
<p>Would appreciate a comment / advice so that I could get the set up started. Thanks.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Bong</p>
<p> </p> Well, BYAP is currently runni…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-01-14:4778851:Comment:338142011-01-14T17:05:46.000ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Well, BYAP is currently running some trials to compare different methods (trial is only a few months old though) and it seems the constant flood method was able to cycle up the system better and the plants were doing almost as good as the timed flood and drain. The siphon system was doing between the two in cycling but the plants seemed to be lagging behind.</p>
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<p>These observations of the trial were a little surprising to me but it seems that the bio filter may cycle up better…</p>
<p>Well, BYAP is currently running some trials to compare different methods (trial is only a few months old though) and it seems the constant flood method was able to cycle up the system better and the plants were doing almost as good as the timed flood and drain. The siphon system was doing between the two in cycling but the plants seemed to be lagging behind.</p>
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<p>These observations of the trial were a little surprising to me but it seems that the bio filter may cycle up better just running the pump constantly for a time and then the plants will still do well then once the system is well cycled, switching to timed flood and drain may provide even better plant growth while saving energy.</p>
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<p>In any case, all three methods can use basically the same drain set up with only minor modifications.</p> Thank You for the detailed ex…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-01-14:4778851:Comment:338032011-01-14T16:30:22.000Zbrian kernshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/briankerns
<p>Thank You for the detailed explanations,very helpful. I understand the siphon and have all the parts to build one but they seem kind of tricky to get working right so I started wondering how the timer plumbing worked and if there were advantages to either one of them.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the comments,</p>
<p>Brian</p>
<p>Thank You for the detailed explanations,very helpful. I understand the siphon and have all the parts to build one but they seem kind of tricky to get working right so I started wondering how the timer plumbing worked and if there were advantages to either one of them.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the comments,</p>
<p>Brian</p> Siphons systems.. are pumped…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-01-14:4778851:Comment:338002011-01-14T16:21:56.000ZRupertofOZhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RupertofOZ
<p>Siphons systems.. are pumped continuously... they don't (usually) utilise a timer...</p>
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<p>The siphon is essentially the same arrangement... but (usually) without the holes in the standpipe.. and another capped pipe placed over the standpipe...</p>
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<p>Adaptions of the siphon utilise a reduction piece... that allows better siphon break with less flow manipulation... google "affnan siphon"...…</p>
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<p>Siphons systems.. are pumped continuously... they don't (usually) utilise a timer...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The siphon is essentially the same arrangement... but (usually) without the holes in the standpipe.. and another capped pipe placed over the standpipe...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Adaptions of the siphon utilise a reduction piece... that allows better siphon break with less flow manipulation... google "affnan siphon"...</p>
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