nitrite tolerance? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T01:53:04Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/nitrite-tolerance?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A280694&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJust a quick update. My dozen…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-03:4778851:Comment:2873312012-02-03T00:35:29.441Zclaude saundershttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/claudesaunders
<p>Just a quick update. My dozen bluegills are now happily settled in and eating aquamax pellets quite well, and considerably more active. And yes, they do seem quite territorial. It's fun to watch them poke others away from a favorite location in the tank. Water chem is normal. So, evidently, they tolerated about 6 days of 1ppm Nitrite (and some ammonia backup too) without apparent ill effect. Thanks for all the info and support.</p>
<p>Just a quick update. My dozen bluegills are now happily settled in and eating aquamax pellets quite well, and considerably more active. And yes, they do seem quite territorial. It's fun to watch them poke others away from a favorite location in the tank. Water chem is normal. So, evidently, they tolerated about 6 days of 1ppm Nitrite (and some ammonia backup too) without apparent ill effect. Thanks for all the info and support.</p> Sorry, I am just learning the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-31:4778851:Comment:2862192012-01-31T22:34:03.851ZChip Gregoryhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/teacherman
<p>Sorry, I am just learning the system. I have 4 bluegills in a 40 gallon tank and they are somewhat territorial. Also I said this before but I have fat happy fish because they are eating shrimp, ham and turkey. I have amonia level on 1 ppm occasionally and I do water changes.</p>
<p>Sorry, I am just learning the system. I have 4 bluegills in a 40 gallon tank and they are somewhat territorial. Also I said this before but I have fat happy fish because they are eating shrimp, ham and turkey. I have amonia level on 1 ppm occasionally and I do water changes.</p> Bill E said:
Simple answer…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-31:4778851:Comment:2861342012-01-31T22:31:12.331ZChip Gregoryhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/teacherman
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Bill E said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/nitrite-tolerance?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A285871&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment285871"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Simple answer to this question. Yes. Even though you cycled your tank before you added fish, the biological filter that was established was not big enough to support the 12 fish that you added to the system. Any ammonia reading of more than 0…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Bill E said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/nitrite-tolerance?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A285871&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment285871"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Simple answer to this question. Yes. Even though you cycled your tank before you added fish, the biological filter that was established was not big enough to support the 12 fish that you added to the system. Any ammonia reading of more than 0 is BAD and any reading of Nitrite other than 0 is BAD.</p>
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</blockquote> Simple answer to this questio…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-31:4778851:Comment:2858712012-01-31T14:49:27.298ZBill Ehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BillEaster
<p>Simple answer to this question. Yes. Even though you cycled your tank before you added fish, the biological filter that was established was not big enough to support the 12 fish that you added to the system. Any ammonia reading of more than 0 is BAD and any reading of Nitrite other than 0 is BAD.</p>
<p>Simple answer to this question. Yes. Even though you cycled your tank before you added fish, the biological filter that was established was not big enough to support the 12 fish that you added to the system. Any ammonia reading of more than 0 is BAD and any reading of Nitrite other than 0 is BAD.</p> Hi Claude,
Your call, but if…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-26:4778851:Comment:2837242012-01-26T01:07:03.566ZChip Pilkingtonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChipPilkington
<p>Hi Claude,</p>
<p>Your call, but if you've got fish trained to eat pellets, I wouldn't veer away from that. Many struggle with getting their fish to even look at pellets. </p>
<p>Hi Claude,</p>
<p>Your call, but if you've got fish trained to eat pellets, I wouldn't veer away from that. Many struggle with getting their fish to even look at pellets. </p> My bluegills are alive and we…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-26:4778851:Comment:2837192012-01-26T00:05:53.620Zclaude saundershttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/claudesaunders
<p>My bluegills are alive and well, and getting more active. Water chem is fine. They are just starting to eat a little. They were used to pellet food (aquamax) for their whole lives, but perhaps some "real food" might work. I did darken the tank environment, since it was clear they really didn't like the light. And I do seem to have almost a 50/50 mix of males and females - maybe that is socially stressful??</p>
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<p>My bluegills are alive and well, and getting more active. Water chem is fine. They are just starting to eat a little. They were used to pellet food (aquamax) for their whole lives, but perhaps some "real food" might work. I did darken the tank environment, since it was clear they really didn't like the light. And I do seem to have almost a 50/50 mix of males and females - maybe that is socially stressful??</p>
<p> </p> Claude, I have blue gills in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-25:4778851:Comment:2834752012-01-25T23:19:39.617ZChip Gregoryhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/teacherman
<p>Claude, I have blue gills in two small tanks and I put them in before the tanks had cycled completely. (I got them in a pond just before the weater went bad) The fish in both tanks are very picky about what they eat. They hate pellets but love worms and also love chicken and pork. Pull it in very thin strips so it looks like worms.</p>
<p>Claude, I have blue gills in two small tanks and I put them in before the tanks had cycled completely. (I got them in a pond just before the weater went bad) The fish in both tanks are very picky about what they eat. They hate pellets but love worms and also love chicken and pork. Pull it in very thin strips so it looks like worms.</p> Try some archeatag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-21:4778851:Comment:2813112012-01-21T13:30:09.092ZRob Nashhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RobNash
Try some archea
Try some archea Not only do people consistant…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-21:4778851:Comment:2814132012-01-21T12:54:30.671ZRupertofOZhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RupertofOZ
<p>Not only do people consistantly over-estimate the number of fish required to produce copious amounts of vegetables...</p>
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<p>But, like Chip says... most are way over stocked.... and often ill-advised, even by some aquaponics "gurus".... as to stocking rates...</p>
<p>Not only do people consistantly over-estimate the number of fish required to produce copious amounts of vegetables...</p>
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<p>But, like Chip says... most are way over stocked.... and often ill-advised, even by some aquaponics "gurus".... as to stocking rates...</p> I know many people are succes…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-21:4778851:Comment:2812362012-01-21T01:51:16.682ZChip Pilkingtonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChipPilkington
<p>I know many people are successful with fishless cycling, but it presents it's own set of risks as well. Well, maybe not risks, so much as strict adherence to the correct process.</p>
<p>Claude, you mention you don't really believe it's too many fish for 60 gals. From what you've presented, I respectfully disagree. In 6 months, probably even 3 months, you'll probably be right on.</p>
<p>I have some major issues with many of the spreadsheets, tables and rules of thumb for stocking density and…</p>
<p>I know many people are successful with fishless cycling, but it presents it's own set of risks as well. Well, maybe not risks, so much as strict adherence to the correct process.</p>
<p>Claude, you mention you don't really believe it's too many fish for 60 gals. From what you've presented, I respectfully disagree. In 6 months, probably even 3 months, you'll probably be right on.</p>
<p>I have some major issues with many of the spreadsheets, tables and rules of thumb for stocking density and feed rates out there. I just posted a similar comment on another site. My concern is that most of those tables don't specify anything related to system maturity. They just allow you to fill in the variable and then receive an answer as to volume required or quantity of daily feed, etc. </p>
<p>Your system is re-cycling to some extent because the transition from fishless to fish wasn't ideal. That's ok, lesson learned and hopefully no dead fish. It will settle, but it's complete conversion process/balance has not found it's resting place yet.</p>
<p>I struggle when I read people posting that they want to feed <em>1 kilo</em> of food per day to <em>this</em> many fish, in a tank <em>this</em> big, having <em>this</em> many GB's. All based on someone's chart and they haven't even broke ground yet. You've got to build up slowly to the aggressive stocking levels some folks claim are possible. Those charts don't always speak to DO either. it may very well be the most critical variable of the bunch. Regardless, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">optimum is better than maximum</span> and remember optimum will change thru the life of your system with every harvest or introduction of new fish, etc..</p>
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