New IBC system, Plants start fine but then die. - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T13:30:55Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/new-ibc-system-plants-start-fine-but-then-die?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A575344&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI guess good ole Maxicrop wit…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-17:4778851:Comment:5754272014-08-17T15:31:02.960ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>I guess good ole Maxicrop with iron for now and Sylvia's price on here is as cost effective as any I have seen. Seems to be an all around help in our system but always looking for more<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Rob Nash said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I guess good ole Maxicrop with iron for now and Sylvia's price on here is as cost effective as any I have seen. Seems to be an all around help in our system but always looking for more<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Rob Nash said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/new-ibc-system-plants-start-fine-but-then-die?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A575344&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment575344"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i would use the grow in a start up scenario , but use the one for the stage and type plants.. its not organic.. ill get back to you when we find a moreganic option.</p>
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</blockquote> i would use the grow in a sta…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-17:4778851:Comment:5753442014-08-17T13:45:09.284ZRob Nashhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RobNash
<p>i would use the grow in a start up scenario , but use the one for the stage and type plants.. its not organic.. ill get back to you when we find a moreganic option.</p>
<p>i would use the grow in a start up scenario , but use the one for the stage and type plants.. its not organic.. ill get back to you when we find a moreganic option.</p> Which one Rob? Grow or Bloom?…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-17:4778851:Comment:5751802014-08-17T09:26:50.594ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Which one Rob? Grow or Bloom?<br/> <br/> <cite>Rob Nash said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/new-ibc-system-plants-start-fine-but-then-die#4778851Comment575118"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>add some Bio Thrive from general organics.. use it at 1/3 strength ,... fish wont mind at all.. and the plants will grow like hydro and it will help your systems biology get off to a great start.</p>
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<p>Which one Rob? Grow or Bloom?<br/> <br/> <cite>Rob Nash said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/new-ibc-system-plants-start-fine-but-then-die#4778851Comment575118"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>add some Bio Thrive from general organics.. use it at 1/3 strength ,... fish wont mind at all.. and the plants will grow like hydro and it will help your systems biology get off to a great start.</p>
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</blockquote> Starting off is tough with hi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-17:4778851:Comment:5753302014-08-17T01:45:13.834ZAlan Barnetthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlanBarnett899
Starting off is tough with high temps and low Nitrates. I noticed that your title was IBC system and you had said 4sf media bed. Was that the other half of the fish tank; in that case it would be closer to 14sf. low fish density, 1lb per150 gals is a huge problem. Especially when you can a have a pound per 10 gals. Ditch the gutters, they may have increased the water temp. A symp in the ground is a good heat sink. Gold fish are cheap, my wife conviced me that the vegies are more important than…
Starting off is tough with high temps and low Nitrates. I noticed that your title was IBC system and you had said 4sf media bed. Was that the other half of the fish tank; in that case it would be closer to 14sf. low fish density, 1lb per150 gals is a huge problem. Especially when you can a have a pound per 10 gals. Ditch the gutters, they may have increased the water temp. A symp in the ground is a good heat sink. Gold fish are cheap, my wife conviced me that the vegies are more important than the fish. Good luck. add some Bio Thrive from gene…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-15:4778851:Comment:5751182014-08-15T12:35:14.628ZRob Nashhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RobNash
<p>add some Bio Thrive from general organics.. use it at 1/3 strength ,... fish wont mind at all.. and the plants will grow like hydro and it will help your systems biology get off to a great start.</p>
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<p>add some Bio Thrive from general organics.. use it at 1/3 strength ,... fish wont mind at all.. and the plants will grow like hydro and it will help your systems biology get off to a great start.</p>
<p></p> Hello - I am no expert, but I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-14:4778851:Comment:5750572014-08-14T20:46:39.533ZSharon Ritterhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SharonRitter
<p>Hello - I am no expert, but <span style="font-size: 13px;">I have the same problem. Your PH is too high. Also with a new system I read that you may only be able to grow only lettuce for about 6 months. I took out all my heavy feeders, broccoli, squash, cucumber, tomatoes and kale and now its is only a variety of lettuce and some chard - it is doing much better no yellow dying leaves - things look heathy. I also started adding the maxi grow and iron. Plus you may be fish feeding to much this…</span></p>
<p>Hello - I am no expert, but <span style="font-size: 13px;">I have the same problem. Your PH is too high. Also with a new system I read that you may only be able to grow only lettuce for about 6 months. I took out all my heavy feeders, broccoli, squash, cucumber, tomatoes and kale and now its is only a variety of lettuce and some chard - it is doing much better no yellow dying leaves - things look heathy. I also started adding the maxi grow and iron. Plus you may be fish feeding to much this will also raise the PH - advise from my pet store. Hope this helps</span></p> It's hard to transplant, espe…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-07-10:4778851:Comment:5706522014-07-10T21:23:57.163ZHank Palocihttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HankPaloci
<p>It's hard to transplant, especially in the heat of summer. Consider reading up on seed starters and buying or making your own -- if you do it that way, you drop the whole root base into the GB and it has more of a chance. Young plants are delicate.</p>
<p>I don't know about other people, but I NEVER transplant soil to AP. Too many pathogens, and it's hard to get the roots to take.</p>
<p>Make sure your fertilizer is OK for the system. I use Liquid Iron or the equivalent.</p>
<p>It's hard to transplant, especially in the heat of summer. Consider reading up on seed starters and buying or making your own -- if you do it that way, you drop the whole root base into the GB and it has more of a chance. Young plants are delicate.</p>
<p>I don't know about other people, but I NEVER transplant soil to AP. Too many pathogens, and it's hard to get the roots to take.</p>
<p>Make sure your fertilizer is OK for the system. I use Liquid Iron or the equivalent.</p> Transplanted the tomatoes fro…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-07-10:4778851:Comment:5706492014-07-10T21:06:35.826ZRodger Lewishttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RodgerLewis
<p>Transplanted the tomatoes from soil. The cantaloupe which was the smaller plant was started from seed in the growbed.</p>
<p>Tallahassee, FL. Its been hot. The water temperature has been 85-91F.</p>
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<p>I am starting to use some PH down. Adding a Tablespoon of 18% Phosphoric acid each day.</p>
<p>I am also starting to Foliar feed the plants with a 2-3-5 fertilizer in the mornings to see if they will survive.</p>
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<p>I think you are right, the system is just too new and I don't…</p>
<p>Transplanted the tomatoes from soil. The cantaloupe which was the smaller plant was started from seed in the growbed.</p>
<p>Tallahassee, FL. Its been hot. The water temperature has been 85-91F.</p>
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<p>I am starting to use some PH down. Adding a Tablespoon of 18% Phosphoric acid each day.</p>
<p>I am also starting to Foliar feed the plants with a 2-3-5 fertilizer in the mornings to see if they will survive.</p>
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<p>I think you are right, the system is just too new and I don't have enough fish.</p>
<p></p> pH and also maybe some liquid…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-07-10:4778851:Comment:5703922014-07-10T20:36:16.637ZHank Palocihttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HankPaloci
<p>pH and also maybe some liquid iron. Sounds like lack of nutrients. For a system this new, you won't get any fruit (tomatoes) unless you add some more inputs. Are you getting flowers that fall off, or the plants don't make it that far?</p>
<p>I tried downspouts and had a really hard time with them. I moved the chard I had in downspouts into a conventional flood and drain bed and have had about eight cuttings since. I don't know how to make spouts work optimally</p>
<p>From what did you…</p>
<p>pH and also maybe some liquid iron. Sounds like lack of nutrients. For a system this new, you won't get any fruit (tomatoes) unless you add some more inputs. Are you getting flowers that fall off, or the plants don't make it that far?</p>
<p>I tried downspouts and had a really hard time with them. I moved the chard I had in downspouts into a conventional flood and drain bed and have had about eight cuttings since. I don't know how to make spouts work optimally</p>
<p>From what did you transplant the tomatoes?</p>
<p>Where do you live? Is it too hot?</p> I would focus on lowering you…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-07-09:4778851:Comment:5703412014-07-09T12:40:22.203ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>I would focus on lowering your pH. 8.0 is too high and can cause certain nutrients to lockout from your plants.</p>
<p>I would focus on lowering your pH. 8.0 is too high and can cause certain nutrients to lockout from your plants.</p>