Need help.!! Might have screwed up my cycling. - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T07:43:37Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/need-help-might-have-screwed-up-my-cycling?x=1&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A588047&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJeffS I guess there aren't an…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-20:4778851:Comment:5905442014-12-20T14:23:12.827ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
JeffS I guess there aren't any, it went faster this second time just like Vlad had said. 3 weeks this second time isn't bad at all. I have noticed in the last week that all the plants have really taken off and sprouted a lot. I am going to continue with the ammonia for now until the water warms up. I will probably dump the water from my aquarium into my fish tank every time I clean it out, just to mimic as though there are fish in it.
JeffS I guess there aren't any, it went faster this second time just like Vlad had said. 3 weeks this second time isn't bad at all. I have noticed in the last week that all the plants have really taken off and sprouted a lot. I am going to continue with the ammonia for now until the water warms up. I will probably dump the water from my aquarium into my fish tank every time I clean it out, just to mimic as though there are fish in it. Looks like you're there!!!! G…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-19:4778851:Comment:5905232014-12-19T13:06:38.199ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>Looks like you're there!!!! Guess there are no shortcuts. I added a GB to my system. I'm hoping the mature system will speed up the cycling.</p>
<p>Looks like you're there!!!! Guess there are no shortcuts. I added a GB to my system. I'm hoping the mature system will speed up the cycling.</p> sunday my readings were:
PH:…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-19:4778851:Comment:5905222014-12-19T11:51:50.197ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
sunday my readings were:<br />
PH: 7.8<br />
Ammonia: 0.0<br />
Nitrites:2.0<br />
Nitrates: 40.0<br />
Then I added 3/4 cup ammonia.<br />
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On Tuesday:<br />
PH:7.8<br />
Ammonia: 8.0<br />
Nitrites: 5.0+<br />
Nitrates: 80.0<br />
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Then checked Thursday and found this:<br />
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PH:7.8<br />
Ammonia: 0.0<br />
Nitrites: .25<br />
Nitrates: 80. - 160.<br />
I added a splash of Ammonia and will check Saturday to See what it says.<br />
I think I might be getting close to being cycled, correct?
sunday my readings were:<br />
PH: 7.8<br />
Ammonia: 0.0<br />
Nitrites:2.0<br />
Nitrates: 40.0<br />
Then I added 3/4 cup ammonia.<br />
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On Tuesday:<br />
PH:7.8<br />
Ammonia: 8.0<br />
Nitrites: 5.0+<br />
Nitrates: 80.0<br />
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Then checked Thursday and found this:<br />
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PH:7.8<br />
Ammonia: 0.0<br />
Nitrites: .25<br />
Nitrates: 80. - 160.<br />
I added a splash of Ammonia and will check Saturday to See what it says.<br />
I think I might be getting close to being cycled, correct? my most recent reading were 2…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-13:4778851:Comment:5896752014-12-13T15:17:09.188ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
<p>my most recent reading were 2 days ago with:</p>
<p>PH; 7.8</p>
<p>Amm; 0.0</p>
<p>Nitrites; 5.0+</p>
<p>Nitrates 40</p>
<p>with irregular dosing of ammonia i have found exactly what Vlad had said, my nitrites have fluctuated from 5.0+ down to about 3.0. I have just added a few (14) new lettuce plants in, so I think thats part of my problem. Another issue I believe is my water temp, it has been hovering in the range of 64 - 59 degrees ( F ).</p>
<p>It has rained pretty good here in So.…</p>
<p>my most recent reading were 2 days ago with:</p>
<p>PH; 7.8</p>
<p>Amm; 0.0</p>
<p>Nitrites; 5.0+</p>
<p>Nitrates 40</p>
<p>with irregular dosing of ammonia i have found exactly what Vlad had said, my nitrites have fluctuated from 5.0+ down to about 3.0. I have just added a few (14) new lettuce plants in, so I think thats part of my problem. Another issue I believe is my water temp, it has been hovering in the range of 64 - 59 degrees ( F ).</p>
<p>It has rained pretty good here in So. California lately so I took my plastic covers off my GB to allow rain water to fill up my system. (trying to add lower PH water naturally)</p>
<p> I will get new readings today and possibly add more ammonia.</p>
<p>BTW, it only takes 1-2 days for 2.0 - 3.0 ppm ammonia to disappear due to the Nitrosomonas bacteria.</p> I'm getting ready to start a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-06:4778851:Comment:5891232014-12-06T17:00:54.602ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>I'm getting ready to start a smaller GB with a mature fish tank so I think I'll run a test with it. I'll let you know how fast it starts cycling.</p>
<p>I'm getting ready to start a smaller GB with a mature fish tank so I think I'll run a test with it. I'll let you know how fast it starts cycling.</p> Yeah, there are a lot of 'nit…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-06:4778851:Comment:5892042014-12-06T14:30:54.139ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Yeah, there are a lot of 'nitrifiers in a bottle' products...and most of them are rubbish, and wont really speed up cycling. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jeff S said:</cite></p>
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<p>Yeah, there are a lot of 'nitrifiers in a bottle' products...and most of them are rubbish, and wont really speed up cycling. <br/> <br/> <cite>Jeff S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/need-help-might-have-screwed-up-my-cycling?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A588047&page=2#4778851Comment588893"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Vlad, I was going through some stuff that came with a pair of aquariums I bought in the spring and came across a bottle of something called CYCLE. Says it "rapidly matures new aquariums" "Cycle releases massive amounts of beneficial bacteria." "Cycle is an all natural product that will not harm plants, animals, or humans. It is impossible to overdose."</p>
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</blockquote> Vlad, I was going through s…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-06:4778851:Comment:5888932014-12-06T04:32:57.668ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>Vlad, I was going through some stuff that came with a pair of aquariums I bought in the spring and came across a bottle of something called CYCLE. Says it "rapidly matures new aquariums" "Cycle releases massive amounts of beneficial bacteria." "Cycle is an all natural product that will not harm plants, animals, or humans. It is impossible to overdose."</p>
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<p>Have you ever heard of this stuff?</p>
<p>Vlad, I was going through some stuff that came with a pair of aquariums I bought in the spring and came across a bottle of something called CYCLE. Says it "rapidly matures new aquariums" "Cycle releases massive amounts of beneficial bacteria." "Cycle is an all natural product that will not harm plants, animals, or humans. It is impossible to overdose."</p>
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<p>Have you ever heard of this stuff?</p> Thank you VERY much Vlad &…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-06:4778851:Comment:5888882014-12-06T00:44:03.802ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
<p>Thank you VERY much Vlad & JeffS. I appreciate the names of the bacteria as it kind of helps a little more. I have added 3 cap fulls of "ace brand" ammonia. My Nitrates before I cleaned everything out, had spiked at about 80ppm. I know it will get back up there soon, not too worried if it takes some time as I have the fish in an aquarium until this system cycles itself.</p>
<p>I do have the crawdads in there mainly because the water is warmer in the sumps than it is in small kiddie pools…</p>
<p>Thank you VERY much Vlad & JeffS. I appreciate the names of the bacteria as it kind of helps a little more. I have added 3 cap fulls of "ace brand" ammonia. My Nitrates before I cleaned everything out, had spiked at about 80ppm. I know it will get back up there soon, not too worried if it takes some time as I have the fish in an aquarium until this system cycles itself.</p>
<p>I do have the crawdads in there mainly because the water is warmer in the sumps than it is in small kiddie pools on my lawn.</p>
<p>It doesn't get too cold here in this part of So Cal until christmas, then we will see a few nights around 30-32 F. once thats gone and over with, I will put the fish back in the tank.</p>
<p></p> Mike...that is a normal part…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-05:4778851:Comment:5888842014-12-05T22:06:12.859ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Mike...that is a normal part of cycling called the "nitrite spike" phase. Adding 'lots' of ammonia will prolong the spike a bit (but your system will get beyond that phase eventually nonetheless).</p>
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<p>Cutting the ammonia dosing both in size (amount of ammonia) and frequency gives the nitrates a chance to "catch up" (by somewhat crippling the nitrite producers ammonia source temporarily).</p>
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<p>What your going through is not unusual at all. Just this summer I had a client…</p>
<p>Mike...that is a normal part of cycling called the "nitrite spike" phase. Adding 'lots' of ammonia will prolong the spike a bit (but your system will get beyond that phase eventually nonetheless).</p>
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<p>Cutting the ammonia dosing both in size (amount of ammonia) and frequency gives the nitrates a chance to "catch up" (by somewhat crippling the nitrite producers ammonia source temporarily).</p>
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<p>What your going through is not unusual at all. Just this summer I had a client completely crash his system...so he had to re-cycle it. It didn't take as long to fully cycle as it does the first time, but you still go through the nitrite spike phase and all that...just be patient, the nitrates will catch up and your nitrites will fall (you should just starve them a little bit...not too much though...</p>
<p>BTW...Nitrosomonas oxidize ammonia into nitrite, while Nitrospira, and Nitrobacter oxidize the nitrite into nitrate. (Not that knowing their names makes your system work any better...but just in case anyone was wondering :)</p> Adding a little more ammonia…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-12-05:4778851:Comment:5890392014-12-05T19:57:25.782ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>Adding a little more ammonia shouldn't hurt anything.</p>
<p>Adding a little more ammonia shouldn't hurt anything.</p>