Leaking IBC - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T07:19:04Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/leaking-ibc?groupUrl=ibc-aquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A596586&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWow, sorry Jeff, I never saw…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-11:4778851:Comment:5965862015-02-11T22:06:50.331ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Wow, sorry Jeff, I never saw this before. My 5 FTs all drain to a common drain running in front of the IBCs. Mine (FTs) are set on a cascading cribwork so the drain is 3.5" lower at each tank for great drainage and at the far end of the 24' fish room that flows through the wall (tarp at present) into the hothouse side of the AP GH and then runs down the backs of the 5 IBC growbeds. From there the bell siphons all drain into a 1 1/2" common drain that goes underground as it leaves the far end…</p>
<p>Wow, sorry Jeff, I never saw this before. My 5 FTs all drain to a common drain running in front of the IBCs. Mine (FTs) are set on a cascading cribwork so the drain is 3.5" lower at each tank for great drainage and at the far end of the 24' fish room that flows through the wall (tarp at present) into the hothouse side of the AP GH and then runs down the backs of the 5 IBC growbeds. From there the bell siphons all drain into a 1 1/2" common drain that goes underground as it leaves the far end of the GBs and then under the walkway and into the buried 275g sump where it is again pumped up to the 5 FTs.. I hope that answers it.</p>
<p>I agree on the IBCs. 3 years running and never a single problem. They are after all designed to carry all sorts of nasty chemicals all over the world on ships and trucks and they are very well tested. SUN is the enemy and it takes years for even that to cause problems. I see them all around here at any garage that changes oil and 9 times out of 10 they are sitting full of old oil right in the Sun. Waiting! Just a matter of time and we will be reading about a 300g oil spill.<a rel="nofollow" style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Frown.gif"/></a></p>
<p>@ Michael: Yeah it is (overkill). <a rel="nofollow" style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p>
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<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/leaking-ibc?groupUrl=ibc-aquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A596585&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment563370"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Jim, I have been looking at your GH layout and was wondering if you separate the water between the FTs or does it all run together at the sump?</p>
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</blockquote> My leak never showed up again…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-11:4778851:Comment:5965852015-02-11T20:38:15.736ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>My leak never showed up again so if it ain't broke I ain't gonna fix it. My first IBCs were ones that I had had for years outside in the weather. They did get brittle and I broke the first grow bed by just dropping it while fabricating but once the others were set up I never had any problems.</p>
<p>My leak never showed up again so if it ain't broke I ain't gonna fix it. My first IBCs were ones that I had had for years outside in the weather. They did get brittle and I broke the first grow bed by just dropping it while fabricating but once the others were set up I never had any problems.</p> I know it's overkill...but I'…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-11:4778851:Comment:5968202015-02-11T20:19:07.540ZMichael Osmanhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelOsman
I know it's overkill...but I've put a pond liner in my IBC.
I know it's overkill...but I've put a pond liner in my IBC. New development: I put a gro…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-09-24:4778851:Comment:5792212014-09-24T17:28:13.152ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p> New development: I put a grow bed size IBC top in my basement a few months ago mounted on a pallet for some breeder Tilapia and all was well. About 6 weeks into the project I was getting a leak so I put a temporary gutter under it to my floor drain and started making plans to replace it. In about a week the leak stopped and hasn't shown up again so it's on hold for now. More of a winter project anyway LOL.</p>
<p> New development: I put a grow bed size IBC top in my basement a few months ago mounted on a pallet for some breeder Tilapia and all was well. About 6 weeks into the project I was getting a leak so I put a temporary gutter under it to my floor drain and started making plans to replace it. In about a week the leak stopped and hasn't shown up again so it's on hold for now. More of a winter project anyway LOL.</p> Jim, I have been looking at y…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-16:4778851:Comment:5633702014-05-16T00:56:39.346ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>Jim, I have been looking at your GH layout and was wondering if you separate the water between the FTs or does it all run together at the sump?</p>
<p><br></br><br></br><cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/leaking-ibc?groupUrl=ibc-aquaponics&#4778851Comment562218"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>FWIW I am a bit concerned as to the support under the GB. Keep in mind that GB weighs about 900lbs when full of water and gravel…</p>
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<p>Jim, I have been looking at your GH layout and was wondering if you separate the water between the FTs or does it all run together at the sump?</p>
<p><br/><br/><cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/leaking-ibc?groupUrl=ibc-aquaponics&#4778851Comment562218"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>FWIW I am a bit concerned as to the support under the GB. Keep in mind that GB weighs about 900lbs when full of water and gravel and they will sag without enough support. I am hoping I simply cannot see it. I used PT Southern Yellow Pine decking planks but my GBs are not over my FTs so I am not concerned with the PT chems dripping in.</p>
<p>Let us know what you find and how much water you estimate you have lost. I am still betting on some fitting, etc. rather than the IBC itself. They are designed to take one hell of a beating during shipping and are used to haul some pretty nasty stuff that shippers do not want leaking.</p>
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</blockquote> Great news Arthur. I have had…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-09:4778851:Comment:5622622014-05-09T14:04:25.774ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Great news Arthur. I have had my share of leaks and it has always been something loose, something clogging up causing an overflow, etc. It never ceases to amaze me how much water can be released from a 2000g system over a 24 - 48 hr period caused by a trickle that is so small you can't believe it could be the cause. Drips add up. Never been the totes so far.</p>
<p>Let's hear it for totes<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
<p>Great news Arthur. I have had my share of leaks and it has always been something loose, something clogging up causing an overflow, etc. It never ceases to amaze me how much water can be released from a 2000g system over a 24 - 48 hr period caused by a trickle that is so small you can't believe it could be the cause. Drips add up. Never been the totes so far.</p>
<p>Let's hear it for totes<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p> Jim, You can't see it in the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-09:4778851:Comment:5619862014-05-09T12:24:25.411ZArthur King, Jr.https://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ArthurKingJr
<p>Jim, You can't see it in the pics, but there are additional cross members under the tote to help keep it from sagging too much. When I first test filled it before gravel, I didn't like the way it was looking and added some additional support.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jim Fisk said:…</cite></p>
<p>Jim, You can't see it in the pics, but there are additional cross members under the tote to help keep it from sagging too much. When I first test filled it before gravel, I didn't like the way it was looking and added some additional support.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/leaking-ibc?groupUrl=ibc-aquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A562126&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment562218"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>FWIW I am a bit concerned as to the support under the GB. Keep in mind that GB weighs about 900lbs when full of water and gravel and they will sag without enough support. I am hoping I simply cannot see it. I used PT Southern Yellow Pine decking planks but my GBs are not over my FTs so I am not concerned with the PT chems dripping in.</p>
<p>Let us know what you find and how much water you estimate you have lost. I am still betting on some fitting, etc. rather than the IBC itself. They are designed to take one hell of a beating during shipping and are used to haul some pretty nasty stuff that shippers do not want leaking.</p>
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</blockquote> Update for everyone and appre…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-09:4778851:Comment:5620642014-05-09T12:21:53.698ZArthur King, Jr.https://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ArthurKingJr
<p>Update for everyone and appreciate everyone helping out as much as they can. The "leak" seems to have subsided as no more water appears to be coming out. I believe the source was actually my fill tube going to the GB. It seemed to have been moved ever so slightly to just have a little water hitting the edge and going over the side. Since the discovery, no more water seems to be added to what is on the floor. I had doubts that the tote was the culprit as well. As everyone points out,…</p>
<p>Update for everyone and appreciate everyone helping out as much as they can. The "leak" seems to have subsided as no more water appears to be coming out. I believe the source was actually my fill tube going to the GB. It seemed to have been moved ever so slightly to just have a little water hitting the edge and going over the side. Since the discovery, no more water seems to be added to what is on the floor. I had doubts that the tote was the culprit as well. As everyone points out, these things are used to ship some pretty nasty stuff and don't leak by design.</p>
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<p>My guess is I lost about 50 gallons of water. It was so gradual though that no streams appeared on the floor or surroundings. I don't think anything was damaged and the fish to seem to be ok from it all (they still seem to be hungry as ever).</p> FWIW I am a bit concerned as…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-08:4778851:Comment:5622182014-05-08T20:28:40.480ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>FWIW I am a bit concerned as to the support under the GB. Keep in mind that GB weighs about 900lbs when full of water and gravel and they will sag without enough support. I am hoping I simply cannot see it. I used PT Southern Yellow Pine decking planks but my GBs are not over my FTs so I am not concerned with the PT chems dripping in.</p>
<p>Let us know what you find and how much water you estimate you have lost. I am still betting on some fitting, etc. rather than the IBC itself. They are…</p>
<p>FWIW I am a bit concerned as to the support under the GB. Keep in mind that GB weighs about 900lbs when full of water and gravel and they will sag without enough support. I am hoping I simply cannot see it. I used PT Southern Yellow Pine decking planks but my GBs are not over my FTs so I am not concerned with the PT chems dripping in.</p>
<p>Let us know what you find and how much water you estimate you have lost. I am still betting on some fitting, etc. rather than the IBC itself. They are designed to take one hell of a beating during shipping and are used to haul some pretty nasty stuff that shippers do not want leaking.</p> I have 2 IBCs that sat outsid…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-08:4778851:Comment:5619342014-05-08T18:41:23.184ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>I have 2 IBCs that sat outside empty for years and then I started using them last year for AP. They did seem a little brittle but so far I've been lucky. If it's not your GB then it looks like you could look under your FT just to see if there's a drip. If so you don't have many options but to drain it an inspect.</p>
<p>I have 2 IBCs that sat outside empty for years and then I started using them last year for AP. They did seem a little brittle but so far I've been lucky. If it's not your GB then it looks like you could look under your FT just to see if there's a drip. If so you don't have many options but to drain it an inspect.</p>