Is Aquaponics The End Goal? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T13:20:05Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A554954&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBack to the initial topic, I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-04-30:4778851:Comment:5603882014-04-30T20:56:02.411ZJeremiah Robinsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeremiahRobinson
<p>Back to the initial topic, I think that aquaponics has a part in the future but perhaps not as we're doing it now (i.e. highly mechanized). </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">The Chinese have stocked carp in their rice paddies forever. The ancients who lived in the amazon put them in water channels between raised islands for growing crops. They would scoop out the fish waste seasonally and put it on the islands.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">People will always raise…</span></p>
<p>Back to the initial topic, I think that aquaponics has a part in the future but perhaps not as we're doing it now (i.e. highly mechanized). </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">The Chinese have stocked carp in their rice paddies forever. The ancients who lived in the amazon put them in water channels between raised islands for growing crops. They would scoop out the fish waste seasonally and put it on the islands.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">People will always raise animals, and raising fish takes up less feed inputs than any other animal, especially if you have a way of dissolving oxygen and getting rid of the waste (like aquaponics).</span></p> (double post - deleted)tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5555972014-03-27T19:55:12.660ZJohan Prinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohanPrins
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<p>(double post - deleted)</p> Ah, I understand... I'll miss…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5559022014-03-27T18:50:44.517ZJohan Prinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohanPrins
<p>Ah, I understand... I'll miss one element for that here in my place: the cooler water - but I should try a trout or two among the roach I have, after having gone through one summer and having experienced the max. temperatures.</p>
<p>Trout can be bought everywhere around here, they swim half a mile from here in the river, too.</p>
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<p>Ah, I understand... I'll miss one element for that here in my place: the cooler water - but I should try a trout or two among the roach I have, after having gone through one summer and having experienced the max. temperatures.</p>
<p>Trout can be bought everywhere around here, they swim half a mile from here in the river, too.</p>
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<p>This is big trout and bass country here at 2-3k feet in the mountains. Ours seem to tolerate 48F to 75F if only for a few days at the extremes. In the Winter we heat with wood and now 100' of 3/4" pvc mounted on metal roofing and all painted black and hanging on the GH N wall. On a sunny day the solar will bring the 2000g system up a good 4F and the GBs another 2F so 6 deg F in one day not bad. Add the woodstove and gain another 4F. In the Summer our artesian well water runs about 55F so it is easy to pull down the temp via a water exchange and we usually will do a trout harvest while we do that. Dropping the water to 1' deep in the 330 ibc is the easiest way to select and catch the fish. Then I top it back up with the cooler water run into the 275g sump (not directly into the FT) and we are back in range.<br/> <br/> <cite>Johan Prins said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A555727&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment555479"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Trout in an aquaponics system? wasn't supposed to work, they say. What did you do to make that work?<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A552980&page=2#4778851Comment555638"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Weed and delicious trout and veggies. What a plan. I still plan to add some compost tea to my system. Shouldn't hurt the fish and will provide many more plant foods. I need a separate system for just such experiments without risking our delicious trout. Did I mention how delicious they are??</p>
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</blockquote> There are weeds and then ther…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5558082014-03-27T14:33:44.832ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>There are weeds and then there is weed<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Scott Roberts said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A555805&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment555805"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Tell that to my japanese maple tree.... I pick seedlings out of my grow beds all the time!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Alex Veidel…</cite></p>
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<p>There are weeds and then there is weed<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Scott Roberts said:</cite></p>
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<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A552980&page=2#4778851Comment555729"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yeah, it's interesting....aren't aquaponic/hydroponic systems supposed to be weedless? ;)</p>
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</blockquote> Tell that to my japanese mapl…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5558052014-03-27T14:26:07.046ZScott Robertshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ScottRoberts
<p>Tell that to my japanese maple tree.... I pick seedlings out of my grow beds all the time!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
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<p>Tell that to my japanese maple tree.... I pick seedlings out of my grow beds all the time!<br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> Yeah, it's interesting....are…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5557292014-03-27T13:43:30.063ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Yeah, it's interesting....aren't aquaponic/hydroponic systems supposed to be weedless? ;)<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Johan Prins said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A552980&page=2#4778851Comment555727"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's weird! 30 years ago, at work, we had hydroton-filled hydroponics basins everywhere around the office with decorative plants, just because with hydroponics…</p>
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<p>Yeah, it's interesting....aren't aquaponic/hydroponic systems supposed to be weedless? ;)<br/> <br/> <cite>Johan Prins said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A552980&page=2#4778851Comment555727"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's weird! 30 years ago, at work, we had hydroton-filled hydroponics basins everywhere around the office with decorative plants, just because with hydroponics they could do without watering on week-ends, and even a week with the offices closed.</p>
<p>No link to weed :-)</p>
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</blockquote> If trout are a native fish in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5556852014-03-27T11:53:30.578ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>If trout are a native fish in your area like they are around here, you can raise trout in your AP. Always try and use native fish as they are used to your temps.</p>
<p>This is big trout and bass country here at 2-3k feet in the mountains. Ours seem to tolerate 48F to 75F if only for a few days at the extremes. In the Winter we heat with wood and now 100' of 3/4" pvc mounted on metal roofing and all painted black and hanging on the GH N wall. On a sunny day the solar will bring the 2000g…</p>
<p>If trout are a native fish in your area like they are around here, you can raise trout in your AP. Always try and use native fish as they are used to your temps.</p>
<p>This is big trout and bass country here at 2-3k feet in the mountains. Ours seem to tolerate 48F to 75F if only for a few days at the extremes. In the Winter we heat with wood and now 100' of 3/4" pvc mounted on metal roofing and all painted black and hanging on the GH N wall. On a sunny day the solar will bring the 2000g system up a good 4F and the GBs another 2F so 6 deg F in one day not bad. Add the woodstove and gain another 4F. In the Summer our artesian well water runs about 55F so it is easy to pull down the temp via a water exchange and we usually will do a trout harvest while we do that. Dropping the water to 1' deep in the 330 ibc is the easiest way to select and catch the fish. Then I top it back up with the cooler water run into the 275g sump (not directly into the FT) and we are back in range.<br/> <br/> <cite>Johan Prins said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A555727&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment555479"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Trout in an aquaponics system? wasn't supposed to work, they say. What did you do to make that work?<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/is-aquaponics-the-end-goal?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A552980&page=2#4778851Comment555638"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Weed and delicious trout and veggies. What a plan. I still plan to add some compost tea to my system. Shouldn't hurt the fish and will provide many more plant foods. I need a separate system for just such experiments without risking our delicious trout. Did I mention how delicious they are??</p>
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</blockquote> That's weird! 30 years ago, a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5557272014-03-27T07:33:03.261ZJohan Prinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohanPrins
<p>That's weird! 30 years ago, at work, we had hydroton-filled hydroponics basins everywhere around the office with decorative plants, just because with hydroponics they could do without watering on week-ends, and even a week with the offices closed.</p>
<p>No link to weed :-)</p>
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<p>That's weird! 30 years ago, at work, we had hydroton-filled hydroponics basins everywhere around the office with decorative plants, just because with hydroponics they could do without watering on week-ends, and even a week with the offices closed.</p>
<p>No link to weed :-)</p>
<p></p> I think most people associate…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-27:4778851:Comment:5554912014-03-27T00:58:15.968ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>I think most people associate hydroponics with weed production.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Johan Prins said:</cite></p>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><p><em>Funny enough, French people, when they hear "hydroponics", think "weed", and "aquaponics" is an unknown term for them altogether.</em></p>
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<p><em>I'll try wicking pots on to of one of the rafts, because some plants will just never like to dip in water. I'm not so sure, though, if I'd take the risk to water the top section with…</em></p>
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<p>I think most people associate hydroponics with weed production.<br/> <br/> <cite>Johan Prins said:</cite></p>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><p><em>Funny enough, French people, when they hear "hydroponics", think "weed", and "aquaponics" is an unknown term for them altogether.</em></p>
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<p><em>I'll try wicking pots on to of one of the rafts, because some plants will just never like to dip in water. I'm not so sure, though, if I'd take the risk to water the top section with fish-unfriendly things.</em></p>
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<p>You know, Grow Power does this exact same thing. I never really considered it as a growing technique (since I'm not crazy about the rest of Grow Power's aquaponics designs), but it makes more sense now. Thanks :)<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Steve R said:…</cite></p>
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<p>You know, Grow Power does this exact same thing. I never really considered it as a growing technique (since I'm not crazy about the rest of Grow Power's aquaponics designs), but it makes more sense now. Thanks :)<br/> <br/> <cite>Steve R said:</cite></p>
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