IBC System Trouble - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T13:57:12Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/ibc-system-trouble?groupUrl=sacramento-aquaponics&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWow those look great and chea…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-08-14:4778851:Comment:3830332012-08-14T15:13:58.563ZJanet Littlehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JanetLittle
<p>Wow those look great and cheap, Thanks. I have a 55 gallon plastic barrel they tend to be pretty thick so I think it will work. My son is starting a system so he will be happy to save a few bucks also.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Bob Campbell said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Wow those look great and cheap, Thanks. I have a 55 gallon plastic barrel they tend to be pretty thick so I think it will work. My son is starting a system so he will be happy to save a few bucks also.<br/> <br/> <cite>Bob Campbell said:</cite></p>
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<p>Here's another I just found.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategories/829/Uniseals" target="_blank">http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategories/829/Uniseals</a></p>
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<p>And here are <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tank-depot.com/shopping/uniseal-instructions.aspx" target="_blank">the instructions</a>. They probably sell them too. </p>
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<p>The one thing to watch out for is the that the thickness of the tank you are going through needs to be thick enough for the Uniseal to press tight against, I don't have a specific gauge, but something thin and flimsy will tend to leak, But I used then to make my spin filter which is a water cooler bottle. That was pretty thin and it does not leak <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GWJGfM47RxM/T2OhBfl9LHI/AAAAAAAAIM8/JVNaekVejN8/s320/2012-03-16_1321.png"><img class="align-full" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GWJGfM47RxM/T2OhBfl9LHI/AAAAAAAAIM8/JVNaekVejN8/s320/2012-03-16_1321.png"/></a></p>
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<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/ibc-system-trouble?groupUrl=sacramento-aquaponics&#4778851Comment361837"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I don't know what your tanks are like, but maybe you could plumb two tanks together to increase the capacity of your sump.</p>
<p>Uniseals can make that kind of job very easy.<br/> <br/> <cite>Janet Little said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/ibc-system-trouble?groupUrl=sacramento-aquaponics&#4778851Comment361830"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>. The only way to remedy it is to empty all the beds and get a new sump which I am hoping to avoid. <a rel="nofollow"><br/></a></p>
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</blockquote> I know this an old thread but…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-08-13:4778851:Comment:3828242012-08-13T23:25:02.700ZJanet Littlehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JanetLittle
<p>I know this an old thread but what are uniseals and where can I find them, I bought a 55 gallon drum to connect to my sump. I would have bought something bigger but I do not have the room for it. As it is I am going to have to do some backwoods engineering to get it connected.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Bob Campbell said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I know this an old thread but what are uniseals and where can I find them, I bought a 55 gallon drum to connect to my sump. I would have bought something bigger but I do not have the room for it. As it is I am going to have to do some backwoods engineering to get it connected.<br/> <br/> <cite>Bob Campbell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/ibc-system-trouble?groupUrl=sacramento-aquaponics&#4778851Comment361837"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I don't know what your tanks are like, but maybe you could plumb two tanks together to increase the capacity of your sump.</p>
<p>Uniseals can make that kind of job very easy.<br/> <br/> <cite>Janet Little said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/ibc-system-trouble?groupUrl=sacramento-aquaponics&#4778851Comment361830"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>. The only way to remedy it is to empty all the beds and get a new sump which I am hoping to avoid. <a rel="nofollow"><br/></a></p>
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</blockquote> That is where we seem to have…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-17:4778851:Comment:3696992012-07-17T18:03:20.664ZJanet Littlehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JanetLittle
<p>That is where we seem to have a problem our sump is not big enough to hold all the water if they drain all at once. I wish Murray had thought of that. I would love to see your system, do you have any pictures?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Susie Gehri said:…</cite></p>
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<p>That is where we seem to have a problem our sump is not big enough to hold all the water if they drain all at once. I wish Murray had thought of that. I would love to see your system, do you have any pictures?<br/> <br/> <cite>Susie Gehri said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/ibc-system-trouble?groupUrl=sacramento-aquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A366497&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment361748"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Isn't there something called "Timed" flood and drain? You control the time at which they flood and drain with a timer? Wouldn't that prevent this from happening? Before we did our system, we filled a growbed with our media (red lava rock) and started pouring 5gallon buckets of water into the tote. Discovered it help approx 60 gallons of water (with our specific media) to "the full" point. That was good to know!!! So now multiply that times the number of grow beds and thats what 'could' theoretically go into (or out of) your sump all at once if ol' Murphy law wins out and things go wrong. According to Murrays' video which we followed somewhat, a sump cut a bit larger than a grow bed will only hold maybe150 to 175 gallons of water? Thats a little less than 3 growbeds. Do timed flood and drain??</p>
<p>Here's what we've done with our system. All the water from fishtanks (2 totes connected to one another by several bulkheads and pvc) flows into a large sump the size of the fishtanks (275 gallons). From that large sump we pump constantly to all 5 growbeds and a little bit to both fishtanks as well, in a waterfall fashion to provide oxygen, constantly. When growbeds drain, they drain into another sump....the size Murray promotes on his videos. We have a big pump in it with a float. When it starts to fill, it quickly pumps (again by waterfall) all the fresh "media cleansed" water into both fishtanks. Fishtank levels equalize and drain into large sump.</p>
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</blockquote> That is what I was hoping to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-17:4778851:Comment:3698362012-07-17T18:00:23.391ZJanet Littlehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JanetLittle
<p>That is what I was hoping to do, I don't want to change my whole set up. Thanks<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
<p>That is what I was hoping to do, I don't want to change my whole set up. Thanks<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p> there is a cool sequencing va…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-16:4778851:Comment:3664972012-07-16T05:02:49.022ZJanehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Jane33
<p>there is a cool sequencing valve , I will try to find it, it will fix you up.</p>
<p>there is a cool sequencing valve , I will try to find it, it will fix you up.</p> Isn't there something called…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-12:4778851:Comment:3617482012-07-12T06:56:28.276ZSusie Gehrihttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SusieGehri
<p>Isn't there something called "Timed" flood and drain? You control the time at which they flood and drain with a timer? Wouldn't that prevent this from happening? Before we did our system, we filled a growbed with our media (red lava rock) and started pouring 5gallon buckets of water into the tote. Discovered it help approx 60 gallons of water (with our specific media) to "the full" point. That was good to know!!! So now multiply that times the number of grow beds and thats what…</p>
<p>Isn't there something called "Timed" flood and drain? You control the time at which they flood and drain with a timer? Wouldn't that prevent this from happening? Before we did our system, we filled a growbed with our media (red lava rock) and started pouring 5gallon buckets of water into the tote. Discovered it help approx 60 gallons of water (with our specific media) to "the full" point. That was good to know!!! So now multiply that times the number of grow beds and thats what 'could' theoretically go into (or out of) your sump all at once if ol' Murphy law wins out and things go wrong. According to Murrays' video which we followed somewhat, a sump cut a bit larger than a grow bed will only hold maybe150 to 175 gallons of water? Thats a little less than 3 growbeds. Do timed flood and drain??</p>
<p>Here's what we've done with our system. All the water from fishtanks (2 totes connected to one another by several bulkheads and pvc) flows into a large sump the size of the fishtanks (275 gallons). From that large sump we pump constantly to all 5 growbeds and a little bit to both fishtanks as well, in a waterfall fashion to provide oxygen, constantly. When growbeds drain, they drain into another sump....the size Murray promotes on his videos. We have a big pump in it with a float. When it starts to fill, it quickly pumps (again by waterfall) all the fresh "media cleansed" water into both fishtanks. Fishtank levels equalize and drain into large sump.</p> Thanks, I suck at message boa…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-12:4778851:Comment:3618302012-07-12T04:21:49.187ZJanet Littlehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JanetLittle
<p>Thanks, I suck at message boards and such. I agree that the sump is too small. If I fill it up it will overflow again when it gets out of sync again and the whole cycle starts again. The only way to remedy it is to empty all the beds and get a new sump which I am hoping to avoid. I have heard rumors of other ways of cycling the water but without the detailed instructions of Murray's system I wouldn't have gotten as far as I have. I am not that mechanical.…</p>
<p>Thanks, I suck at message boards and such. I agree that the sump is too small. If I fill it up it will overflow again when it gets out of sync again and the whole cycle starts again. The only way to remedy it is to empty all the beds and get a new sump which I am hoping to avoid. I have heard rumors of other ways of cycling the water but without the detailed instructions of Murray's system I wouldn't have gotten as far as I have. I am not that mechanical. <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"/> I am an expert at growing plants but the engineering baffles me. If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate the input.</a></p>
<p><a style="cursor: pointer;">I am also looking forward to expanding but not before perfecting this one.<br/></a></p>