Humonia and Struvite - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T09:53:04Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A359285&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI hope you find this info int…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-01:4778851:Comment:6018732015-04-01T18:37:10.712ZBob Campbellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BobCampbell
<p><a href="http://www.epa.gov/agstar/documents/conf12/10b_Dvorak-Frear.pdf" target="_blank">I hope you find this info interesting and useful</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.epa.gov/agstar/documents/conf12/10b_Dvorak-Frear.pdf" target="_blank">I hope you find this info interesting and useful</a></p> A "box of rocks" would be che…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-19:4778851:Comment:5870062014-11-19T03:58:48.888ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>A "box of rocks" would be cheap. Since you wouldn't have solids to deal with you could go with smaller sized rocks than would be typical for AP (they still need to be pH neutral, so no CaCO3 (limestone) containing rocks.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Joni Solis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?page=3&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586491&x=1#4778851Comment586491"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>So Vlad, can you…</p>
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<p>A "box of rocks" would be cheap. Since you wouldn't have solids to deal with you could go with smaller sized rocks than would be typical for AP (they still need to be pH neutral, so no CaCO3 (limestone) containing rocks.<br/> <br/> <cite>Joni Solis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?page=3&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586491&x=1#4778851Comment586491"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>So Vlad, can you point me in the right direction as to what is the best kind of bio-filter to use for pee water. A bio-filter that would be cheap to make would be the best for me right now. Thank you for your help. <br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586705&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586705"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, you would filter the water through a bio-filter in much the same way that you would 'fish water'...nothing special <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/><br/> <br/> <cite>Joni Solis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?page=3&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586362&x=1#4778851Comment586362"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thank you Vlad for this information. So is there any info here about how to pretreat this water? <br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water through a biofilter.</p>
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</blockquote> So Vlad, can you point me in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-17:4778851:Comment:5864912014-11-17T15:02:03.382ZJoni Solishttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JoniSolis
<p>So Vlad, can you point me in the right direction as to what is the best kind of bio-filter to use for pee water. A bio-filter that would be cheap to make would be the best for me right now. Thank you for your help. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586705&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586705"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, you…</p>
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<p>So Vlad, can you point me in the right direction as to what is the best kind of bio-filter to use for pee water. A bio-filter that would be cheap to make would be the best for me right now. Thank you for your help. <br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586705&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586705"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, you would filter the water through a bio-filter in much the same way that you would 'fish water'...nothing special <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/><br/> <br/> <cite>Joni Solis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?page=3&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586362&x=1#4778851Comment586362"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thank you Vlad for this information. So is there any info here about how to pretreat this water? <br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water through a biofilter.</p>
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</blockquote> Yes, you would filter the wat…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-16:4778851:Comment:5867052014-11-16T17:17:42.194ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Yes, you would filter the water through a bio-filter in much the same way that you would 'fish water'...nothing special <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"></img> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Joni Solis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?page=3&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586362&x=1#4778851Comment586362"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thank you Vlad for this information. So is there any info here about how to pretreat this water? …<br></br> <br></br></p>
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<p>Yes, you would filter the water through a bio-filter in much the same way that you would 'fish water'...nothing special <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/><br/> <br/> <cite>Joni Solis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?page=3&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586362&x=1#4778851Comment586362"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thank you Vlad for this information. So is there any info here about how to pretreat this water? <br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water through a biofilter.</p>
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</blockquote> Thank you Vlad for this infor…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-14:4778851:Comment:5863622014-11-14T10:48:49.494ZJoni Solishttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JoniSolis
<p>Thank you Vlad for this information. So is there any info here about how to pretreat this water? <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water…</p>
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<p>Thank you Vlad for this information. So is there any info here about how to pretreat this water? <br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A586406&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment586406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water through a biofilter.</p>
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</blockquote> Yes, the non-recirculating B.…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-14:4778851:Comment:5864062014-11-14T06:16:27.343ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water through a biofilter.</p>
<p>Yes, the non-recirculating B.A Kratky set up can use humonia as an input source, but you would still need to 'pre-treat' the water through a biofilter.</p> I am delighted to find that o…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-14:4778851:Comment:5865022014-11-14T02:59:39.134ZJoni Solishttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JoniSolis
<p>I am delighted to find that others are using their pee for growing plants! I have been using pee around my garden and yard for years. I use it on tree stumps to help them rot faster and pour it on red ant hills to get them to move. And of course I use it diluted with water for feeding plants. I have not tried it for any Hydroponics / Aquaponics gardens but I am still trying to learn more about them. Can pee be used in the still water raft trays?</p>
<p>I am delighted to find that others are using their pee for growing plants! I have been using pee around my garden and yard for years. I use it on tree stumps to help them rot faster and pour it on red ant hills to get them to move. And of course I use it diluted with water for feeding plants. I have not tried it for any Hydroponics / Aquaponics gardens but I am still trying to learn more about them. Can pee be used in the still water raft trays?</p> I was saving mine in 2 liter…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-02-25:4778851:Comment:5500922014-02-25T23:53:55.316ZBob Campbellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BobCampbell
<p>I was saving mine in 2 liter soda bottles. After about 8 months they began to crack. Luckily they were not stored under my bed.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"></img></a> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Andrew Chapman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A550317&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment550317"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I collect in 5L bottles due to convenience (fitting it under…</div>
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<p>I was saving mine in 2 liter soda bottles. After about 8 months they began to crack. Luckily they were not stored under my bed.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Tongue.gif"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Andrew Chapman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/humonia-and-struvite?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A550317&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment550317"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I collect in 5L bottles due to convenience (fitting it under the bed etc.!).</div>
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</blockquote> Hi Vlad, I joined this forum…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-02-25:4778851:Comment:5503172014-02-25T22:56:31.890ZAndrew Chapmanhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AndrewChapman
<p>Hi Vlad, I joined this forum purely on the basis of your amazing struvite research and to ask the question, what about the analysis??? Please tell me you have more info to part with?</p>
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<p>My interest is in using struvite as a rock phosphate substitute in peat free potting composts. I intend to make my own john Innes compost mixes. I too have extracted 'something' from urine using kieserite but not much success with epsom salts! Perhaps you could reiterate how much of the later you…</p>
<p>Hi Vlad, I joined this forum purely on the basis of your amazing struvite research and to ask the question, what about the analysis??? Please tell me you have more info to part with?</p>
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<p>My interest is in using struvite as a rock phosphate substitute in peat free potting composts. I intend to make my own john Innes compost mixes. I too have extracted 'something' from urine using kieserite but not much success with epsom salts! Perhaps you could reiterate how much of the later you are using per litre please? I intend to run some trials this year using seed and potting mixes but I have to get it out of the urine first and in sufficient quantities to work with.</p>
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<p>My last question is, was pH an issue for you? My research has led me to believe that fresh urine has the most struvite to yield so could it be a matter of collecting in smaller batches, adjusting the pH (somehow) and then adding epsom salts/kieserite? I collect in 5L bottles due to convenience (fitting it under the bed etc.!). If fresh is good, do you see a problem in adding the desired amount of epsom salts/kieserite to the empty bottle and then every time a penny is spent giving the bottle a shake until it is filled? This would be easier for my small scale needs.</p>
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<p>Look forward to hearing from you with your next update.</p>
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<p>Look forward to hearing more, please!</p>
<p></p> Vlad, thought you might like…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-12-20:4778851:Comment:5375692013-12-20T22:19:15.460ZShaun Mavronicolashttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ShaunMav
<p>Vlad, thought you might like to see this... I see a stirring chamber, perhaps doing what you are doing to extract phosphorous?</p>
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<p>One more thing, did you ever share the results somewhere that you got in your previous post - sending in the precipitates for analysis?</p>
<p>Vlad, thought you might like to see this... I see a stirring chamber, perhaps doing what you are doing to extract phosphorous?</p>
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<p>One more thing, did you ever share the results somewhere that you got in your previous post - sending in the precipitates for analysis?</p>