how to use what I have - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T00:09:20Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/how-to-use-what-i-have?feed=yes&xn_auth=noSize of the plumbing will nee…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-18:4778851:Comment:2340142011-10-18T13:19:11.787ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Size of the plumbing will need to be based on the flow rate and you will probably be limited by those little spillways and the flow through those beds.</p>
<p>Seeing as you are starting out doing constant flood in your system, there isn't much danger of water level fluctuation so your sump tank needs to be big enough to keep up with your pump.</p>
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<p>Normally a sump tank is sized to handle all the water level fluctuation to flood the grow beds all at once plus some extra to keep…</p>
<p>Size of the plumbing will need to be based on the flow rate and you will probably be limited by those little spillways and the flow through those beds.</p>
<p>Seeing as you are starting out doing constant flood in your system, there isn't much danger of water level fluctuation so your sump tank needs to be big enough to keep up with your pump.</p>
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<p>Normally a sump tank is sized to handle all the water level fluctuation to flood the grow beds all at once plus some extra to keep the pump from running dry (most pumps can't suck the last inch or so out of a tank and you want a little extra sump tank capacity so you don't have to do the topping up every single day to keep the pump from burning up.) Since you are not doing flood and drain at this point you might get away from a fairly small sump but don't go so small that your pump will be sucking air once the pipes are all full of water. Like something bigger than a 5 gallon bucket would be advisable.</p>
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<p>So how many gallons is that fish tank do you estimate? Then figure you need to pump at least that much water per hour at the head required. Then make sure your plumbing from the fish tank tot he sump will be able to handle at least twice that under gravity flow. Or start with the 2" drain and if that isn't enough you get another.</p> thank you for the CHIFT PIST…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-18:4778851:Comment:2338622011-10-18T02:52:50.711ZJanehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Jane33
<p>thank you for the CHIFT PIST translation .... I am considering doing that .......</p>
<p>1) what do I use after I drill the hole , like a giant grommet , can I get them at home depot in the 1" or 2 " size ? </p>
<p>2) my tank is fiberglass .....</p>
<p>3)How big does my sump have to be ?</p>
<p>4) what size pump so I can expand but not over circulate what I have now..... ?</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>TCLynx said:…</cite></p>
<p>thank you for the CHIFT PIST translation .... I am considering doing that .......</p>
<p>1) what do I use after I drill the hole , like a giant grommet , can I get them at home depot in the 1" or 2 " size ? </p>
<p>2) my tank is fiberglass .....</p>
<p>3)How big does my sump have to be ?</p>
<p>4) what size pump so I can expand but not over circulate what I have now..... ?</p>
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<cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/how-to-use-what-i-have?page=2&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A233768&x=1#4778851Comment233768"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If you are worried about things that can fail and cause problems, then I would recommend against float switches since they are not perfect either.</p>
<p>If you want to do CHIFT PIST (constant height in fish tank pump in sump tank) then you will have to drill a hole and plumb through the fish tank.</p>
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<p>If you want to keep it simple but still protect your fish in case of plumbing getting knocked out of a grow bed or something,</p>
<p>I would recommend installing the pump a few inches up off the bottom of the fish tank so that if something does go wrong, it will probably only be your pump that pays the price (and many mag drive pumps have thermal cut off in case of running dry of you want to shop for that.)</p>
<p>Anyway, if you secure your plumbing and have the pump off the bottom between 4-10 inches then you have a good chance of your fish surviving as long as you are around to catch the problem before it persists too long.</p>
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</blockquote> If you are worried about thin…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-18:4778851:Comment:2337682011-10-18T01:38:12.642ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>If you are worried about things that can fail and cause problems, then I would recommend against float switches since they are not perfect either.</p>
<p>If you want to do CHIFT PIST (constant height in fish tank pump in sump tank) then you will have to drill a hole and plumb through the fish tank.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If you want to keep it simple but still protect your fish in case of plumbing getting knocked out of a grow bed or something,</p>
<p>I would recommend installing the pump a few…</p>
<p>If you are worried about things that can fail and cause problems, then I would recommend against float switches since they are not perfect either.</p>
<p>If you want to do CHIFT PIST (constant height in fish tank pump in sump tank) then you will have to drill a hole and plumb through the fish tank.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If you want to keep it simple but still protect your fish in case of plumbing getting knocked out of a grow bed or something,</p>
<p>I would recommend installing the pump a few inches up off the bottom of the fish tank so that if something does go wrong, it will probably only be your pump that pays the price (and many mag drive pumps have thermal cut off in case of running dry of you want to shop for that.)</p>
<p>Anyway, if you secure your plumbing and have the pump off the bottom between 4-10 inches then you have a good chance of your fish surviving as long as you are around to catch the problem before it persists too long.</p> You can always put in a float…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-17:4778851:Comment:2337412011-10-17T23:49:13.468ZChi Mahttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChiMa
<p>You can always put in a float switch to shut off the pump.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sourcingmap.com/water-draining-service-float-switch-fluid-level-controller-250v-p-100648.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=usfroogle" target="_blank">http://www.sourcingmap.com/water-draining-service-float-switch-fluid-level-controller-250v-p-100648.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=usfroogle</a></p>
<p>You can always put in a float switch to shut off the pump.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sourcingmap.com/water-draining-service-float-switch-fluid-level-controller-250v-p-100648.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=usfroogle" target="_blank">http://www.sourcingmap.com/water-draining-service-float-switch-fluid-level-controller-250v-p-100648.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=usfroogle</a></p> tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-17:4778851:Comment:2336482011-10-17T23:46:32.127ZJanehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Jane33
<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772192518?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772192518?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a>
<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772192518?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772192518?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a> So I am at a crossroad .... I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-17:4778851:Comment:2334622011-10-17T23:44:54.611ZJanehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Jane33
<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772191609?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772191609?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> So I am at a crossroad .... I am using the tanks I have until I can add to the system . So the<br />
<p>big 4'x8'x18" is the fish tank and the 2</p>
<p> 4'x4'x10"are going to be continuous flow gravel beds for now ......</p>
<p>Here 's the problem ... I don't like pumping straight out of the fish tank .... I am afraid of springing a leak somewhere and draining the fish tank…</p>
<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772191609?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772191609?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a>So I am at a crossroad .... I am using the tanks I have until I can add to the system . So the<br />
<p>big 4'x8'x18" is the fish tank and the 2</p>
<p> 4'x4'x10"are going to be continuous flow gravel beds for now ......</p>
<p>Here 's the problem ... I don't like pumping straight out of the fish tank .... I am afraid of springing a leak somewhere and draining the fish tank accidentally............... so what can I do . and will it involve drilling a hole in my fish tank? make a sump ?</p> Very good, making progress.tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-03:4778851:Comment:2273052011-10-03T23:32:12.888ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
Very good, making progress.
Very good, making progress. Nice. If you were closer I'd…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-02:4778851:Comment:2266022011-10-02T23:37:41.834ZChi Mahttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChiMa
Nice. If you were closer I'd pitch in and help.
Nice. If you were closer I'd pitch in and help. tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-02:4778851:Comment:2262662011-10-02T22:56:47.567ZJanehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Jane33
<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772189021?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772189021?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a>
<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772189021?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772189021?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a> So here is a bit of an update…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-10-02:4778851:Comment:2264272011-10-02T22:55:52.821ZJanehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Jane33
<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730276064?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730276064?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772188849?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772188849?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> So here is a bit of an update , I have learned so much from you guys Thanks ! I decided to bite the bullet and dig the enormous hole to put the big 360 gallon tank in the ground to help keep the temperature more consistent for the fish. I decided to make it the…
<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730276064?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730276064?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772188849?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772188849?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a>So here is a bit of an update , I have learned so much from you guys Thanks ! I decided to bite the bullet and dig the enormous hole to put the big 360 gallon tank in the ground to help keep the temperature more consistent for the fish. I decided to make it the fish tank and save back some money for the other components . I have got 3 sides made for my greenhouse , all out of scrap or what friends and neighbors have given me .