How do you feel about the impending approval of AquaAdvantage Salmon? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T12:01:34Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-feel-about-the-impending-approval-of-aquaadvantage-sal?x=1&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A424382&feed=yes&xn_auth=notag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-26:4778851:Comment:4334622013-01-26T21:04:58.091ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
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</p> Anybody seen "Genetic Roulett…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-26:4778851:Comment:4334492013-01-26T20:30:42.873ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Anybody seen "Genetic Roulette" by Jeffrey Smith? Its based on a book he wrote a while back, but the dvd was released recently. Its a good documentary for anybody who has doubts about whether genetically modified foods are okay or not. It barely touches on the political side of GMO's, but it focuses on the health problems they cause.</p>
<p>Anybody seen "Genetic Roulette" by Jeffrey Smith? Its based on a book he wrote a while back, but the dvd was released recently. Its a good documentary for anybody who has doubts about whether genetically modified foods are okay or not. It barely touches on the political side of GMO's, but it focuses on the health problems they cause.</p> well saidtag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-26:4778851:Comment:4332592013-01-26T18:31:54.282Ztilly the tilapiahttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/tillythetilapia
<p>well said</p>
<p>well said</p> What he said
Thanks Vlad. Som…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-26:4778851:Comment:4333202013-01-26T14:49:22.776ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>What he said<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a></p>
<p>Thanks Vlad. Sometimes we feel so all alone. People are so busy making a living that they really have no idea what is going on all around them. "Head in the sand" is so much easier. Right up until it bites THEM in the ass. If we don't hang together we will surely hang alone.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Thanks Vlad. Sometimes we feel so all alone. People are so busy making a living that they really have no idea what is going on all around them. "Head in the sand" is so much easier. Right up until it bites THEM in the ass. If we don't hang together we will surely hang alone.<br/> <br/> <cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-feel-about-the-impending-approval-of-aquaadvantage-sal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A433305&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment433305"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Why on Earth anybody would be so "suspicious" or all "doom and gloom" is beyond me? I mean, just look at all the great things GMO's have done for us so far...I mean it's all been going so well. From honey bees to Monarch butterflies. More herbicides are being sold than ever before (so that <em>has</em> to be great for the 'economy')...Super herbicide resistant weeds seem to be cropping up almost weekly, new resistant varieties of pests too (and you know what they say..."variety is the spice of Life...it's really a wonderful boon for lovers of evolution everywhere). And America, (the wonderful place that got the ball rolling) <em>has</em> to have one of the <em>healthiest </em>populations of any country, anywhere. What's a little glyphosate in the blood anyways? Obese? Naw, there's just "<em>more of us to love</em>"...</p>
<p>And for the 'small' number of folks thus far, who <em>are</em> having health issues (as an <em>indirect</em> result of GM foods...meaning more pesticides/herbicides sprayed and all that comes with that...because we all know that GM foods <em>themselves</em> are <em>perfectly</em> safe... after all the corporation(s) said so themselves...and when has any corporation LIED, or done something like put their profits before the good of us all? Hmm...? I mean really...)...well, those people, just like the 'super weeds' will just have to evolve/adapt in order to survive. And if those enervated weaklings can't take a bit of glyphosate in the blood, or a little of Bt toxin in the gut...then "<em>fuck 'em</em>". They're getting in the way of progress. (Just a little collateral damage in the God-given and legally protected <em>right</em> to peruse higher corporate profit margins).</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/monsanto_pcbs.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/monsanto_pcbs.cfm</a></p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/08/Scotts-Miracle-Gro-to-pay-big-fine/UPI-20211347147333/" target="_blank">http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/08/Scotts-Miracle-Gro-to-pay...</a></p>
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<p>The second link is explains in rather stunning detail why I, and many others, distrust the "science" behind many of these GM related issues...</p>
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</blockquote> Why on Earth anybody would be…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-25:4778851:Comment:4333052013-01-25T22:48:28.665ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Why on Earth anybody would be so "suspicious" or all "doom and gloom" is beyond me? I mean, just look at all the great things GMO's have done for us so far...I mean it's all been going so well. From honey bees to Monarch butterflies. More herbicides are being sold than ever before (so that <em>has</em> to be great for the 'economy')...Super herbicide resistant weeds seem to be cropping up almost weekly, new resistant varieties of pests too (and you know what they say..."variety is the spice…</p>
<p>Why on Earth anybody would be so "suspicious" or all "doom and gloom" is beyond me? I mean, just look at all the great things GMO's have done for us so far...I mean it's all been going so well. From honey bees to Monarch butterflies. More herbicides are being sold than ever before (so that <em>has</em> to be great for the 'economy')...Super herbicide resistant weeds seem to be cropping up almost weekly, new resistant varieties of pests too (and you know what they say..."variety is the spice of Life...it's really a wonderful boon for lovers of evolution everywhere). And America, (the wonderful place that got the ball rolling) <em>has</em> to have one of the <em>healthiest </em>populations of any country, anywhere. What's a little glyphosate in the blood anyways? Obese? Naw, there's just "<em>more of us to love</em>"...</p>
<p>And for the 'small' number of folks thus far, who <em>are</em> having health issues (as an <em>indirect</em> result of GM foods...meaning more pesticides/herbicides sprayed and all that comes with that...because we all know that GM foods <em>themselves</em> are <em>perfectly</em> safe... after all the corporation(s) said so themselves...and when has any corporation LIED, or done something like put their profits before the good of us all? Hmm...? I mean really...)...well, those people, just like the 'super weeds' will just have to evolve/adapt in order to survive. And if those enervated weaklings can't take a bit of glyphosate in the blood, or a little of Bt toxin in the gut...then "<em>fuck 'em</em>". They're getting in the way of progress. (Just a little collateral damage in the God-given and legally protected <em>right</em> to peruse higher corporate profit margins).</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/monsanto_pcbs.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.organicconsumers.org/Toxic/monsanto_pcbs.cfm</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/tools-and-resources/public-research-private-gain-corporate-influence-over-university-agriculture/" target="_blank">http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/tools-and-resources/public-researc...</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/08/Scotts-Miracle-Gro-to-pay-big-fine/UPI-20211347147333/" target="_blank">http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/08/Scotts-Miracle-Gro-to-pay...</a></p>
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<p>The second link is explains in rather stunning detail why I, and many others, distrust the "science" behind many of these GM related issues...</p> Jim Fisk said:
Hey Tilly, h…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-25:4778851:Comment:4331812013-01-25T17:39:23.322Ztilly the tilapiahttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/tillythetilapia
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-feel-about-the-impending-approval-of-aquaadvantage-sal?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A424382&page=4#4778851Comment433094"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey Tilly, how chilly? 15F here last night,<a rel="nofollow" style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a></p>
<p>So sorry for what you are going thru. Why we live way out in the mtns as far away…</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-feel-about-the-impending-approval-of-aquaadvantage-sal?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A424382&page=4#4778851Comment433094"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey Tilly, how chilly? 15F here last night,<a style="cursor: pointer;" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
<p>So sorry for what you are going thru. Why we live way out in the mtns as far away from bureaucrats as possible. Want to build a house? Septic and elect. permits ONLY. Most people can't even imagine that.</p>
<p>They try to pull that crap here and they won't even know what hit them. But it is only a matter of time unless we can wake up the Zombies all around us. Freedom ain't free.<br/> <br/> <cite>tilly the tilapia said:</cite></p>
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<p>It is good to see that some people are more aware of what is happening</p>
<p>I have been in the court system for over 4 years .On August 31 2012. I was convicted of illegal aquaculture in the province of</p>
<p>New Brunwick Canada .I did nothing illegal .Even my sentencing is still under a publication ban and this is because it is so political</p>
<p>I did not want to bring politcs to something as unique as this website</p>
<p>but we as neighbors need to pay attention to the food supply</p>
<p>As one of 36 voting members on the Standards Council of Canada Organic Aquaculture Working Group I learned many things .and it was not about clean food but how words are used to further a product that does not hold to the tenents of</p>
<p>organic</p>
<p>So people need to pay attention</p>
<p>brrrrrrrr its chilly here</p>
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<p>these fish are mainly for the us market</p>
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<p> hi ya</p>
<p>it has warmed up here now -12c was -24 yesterday and wind</p>
<p>tonight -18c</p>
<p>and you are very right freedom is not free it is something you have to earn every day</p>
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</blockquote> That is very correct jim
doom…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-25:4778851:Comment:4332012013-01-25T16:29:16.275Ztilly the tilapiahttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/tillythetilapia
<p>That is very correct jim</p>
<p>doom and gloom is not what aquaponics is about</p>
<p>it is about trying to make positive choices and fun choices</p>
<p> I gotta go and get some more fish sweaters cause i have not been able to teach my fish how to make a igloo</p>
<p>I think it is a learning curve just not sure if its the fish or me lol</p>
<p>That is very correct jim</p>
<p>doom and gloom is not what aquaponics is about</p>
<p>it is about trying to make positive choices and fun choices</p>
<p> I gotta go and get some more fish sweaters cause i have not been able to teach my fish how to make a igloo</p>
<p>I think it is a learning curve just not sure if its the fish or me lol</p> Hey Tilly, how chilly? 15F he…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-25:4778851:Comment:4330942013-01-25T15:25:36.399ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Hey Tilly, how chilly? 15F here last night,<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img></a></p>
<p>So sorry for what you are going thru. Why we live way out in the mtns as far away from bureaucrats as possible. Want to build a house? Septic and elect. permits ONLY. Most people can't even imagine that.</p>
<p>They try to pull that crap here and they won't even know what hit them. But it is only a matter of time unless we can wake up the Zombies all around us. Freedom ain't free.…<br></br> <br></br></p>
<p>Hey Tilly, how chilly? 15F here last night,<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a></p>
<p>So sorry for what you are going thru. Why we live way out in the mtns as far away from bureaucrats as possible. Want to build a house? Septic and elect. permits ONLY. Most people can't even imagine that.</p>
<p>They try to pull that crap here and they won't even know what hit them. But it is only a matter of time unless we can wake up the Zombies all around us. Freedom ain't free.<br/> <br/> <cite>tilly the tilapia said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-feel-about-the-impending-approval-of-aquaadvantage-sal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A432981&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment433074"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Mr Fisk</p>
<p>It is good to see that some people are more aware of what is happening</p>
<p>I have been in the court system for over 4 years .On August 31 2012. I was convicted of illegal aquaculture in the province of</p>
<p>New Brunwick Canada .I did nothing illegal .Even my sentencing is still under a publication ban and this is because it is so political</p>
<p>I did not want to bring politcs to something as unique as this website</p>
<p>but we as neighbors need to pay attention to the food supply</p>
<p>As one of 36 voting members on the Standards Council of Canada Organic Aquaculture Working Group I learned many things .and it was not about clean food but how words are used to further a product that does not hold to the tenents of</p>
<p>organic</p>
<p>So people need to pay attention</p>
<p>brrrrrrrr its chilly here</p>
<p>PS</p>
<p>these fish are mainly for the us market</p>
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</blockquote> Are you kidding Roger? We are…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-25:4778851:Comment:4331732013-01-25T15:15:36.730ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Are you kidding Roger? We are some of the happiest people you will ever know. Just like to keep those things in perspective. We have the happiest little farm around with sheep, chickens, a hinny, cats, dogs, and now fish. Thing is WE know how to take care of ourselves. Just want to keep those SOBs out of OUR lives. Libertarians we and freedom requires staying educated. Just want to see them coming and in order to do that you have to know what they look like and who is giving them a leg…</p>
<p>Are you kidding Roger? We are some of the happiest people you will ever know. Just like to keep those things in perspective. We have the happiest little farm around with sheep, chickens, a hinny, cats, dogs, and now fish. Thing is WE know how to take care of ourselves. Just want to keep those SOBs out of OUR lives. Libertarians we and freedom requires staying educated. Just want to see them coming and in order to do that you have to know what they look like and who is giving them a leg up!</p>
<p>Right Tilly?</p>
<p>Cheers<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Roger Baldwin said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-feel-about-the-impending-approval-of-aquaadvantage-sal?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A432981&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment432981"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Too much doom and gloom for me Jim. I value your opinion and will agree that evolution is brutal. I will concede my argument about Monsanto because I see that it is a sore subject. IMO you should look for more positive propaganda, because worrying about all that shit can't be healthy. I know the World is full of vile people and practice, but I choose to focus on the positive that I see. Time to go feed the fish and chickens! Have a good day and try to smile, it's not all bad, man!</p>
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</blockquote> Too much doom and gloom for m…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-01-25:4778851:Comment:4329812013-01-25T14:26:42.749ZRoger Baldwinhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RogerBaldwin
<p>Too much doom and gloom for me Jim. I value your opinion and will agree that evolution is brutal. I will concede my argument about Monsanto because I see that it is a sore subject. IMO you should look for more positive propaganda, because worrying about all that shit can't be healthy. I know the World is full of vile people and practice, but I choose to focus on the positive that I see. Time to go feed the fish and chickens! Have a good day and try to smile, it's not all bad, man!</p>
<p>Too much doom and gloom for me Jim. I value your opinion and will agree that evolution is brutal. I will concede my argument about Monsanto because I see that it is a sore subject. IMO you should look for more positive propaganda, because worrying about all that shit can't be healthy. I know the World is full of vile people and practice, but I choose to focus on the positive that I see. Time to go feed the fish and chickens! Have a good day and try to smile, it's not all bad, man!</p>