Holy grail for aquaponic production - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T16:04:26Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A236430&feed=yes&xn_auth=notry growing non food plants,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2017-04-19:4778851:Comment:6409472017-04-19T01:00:56.321Zjohnhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/john747
<p>try growing non food plants, like jasmine, lavander, rosemary etc or like a purely wild plant that needs like a 100 foot long taproot or something.</p>
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<p>artimesia tridentata or any other artimesia sp.</p>
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<p>try growing non food plants, like jasmine, lavander, rosemary etc or like a purely wild plant that needs like a 100 foot long taproot or something.</p>
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<p>artimesia tridentata or any other artimesia sp.</p>
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<p></p> Pineapples grow very well in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2016-07-30:4778851:Comment:6333412016-07-30T19:42:58.851ZEric heugelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Ericheugel
<p>Pineapples grow very well in an aquaponic system. Just look at these pics!</p>
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<p>Pineapples grow very well in an aquaponic system. Just look at these pics!</p>
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<p></p> Cilantro can be hard because…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2630152011-12-07T23:41:08.327ZNate Storeyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/NateStorey
<p>Cilantro can be hard because it tends to grow at such low densities. It really likes bunch plantings. We use open face towers now with about 60 plants in a 3' tower to get a nice, lush tower- still only yields a pound or two, but that's just cilantro. Sage does fine for us, but we're not doing raft. They need lots of O2 or they rot. I think they can be hard to do in raft systems, but media systems should grow it.</p>
<p>Cilantro can be hard because it tends to grow at such low densities. It really likes bunch plantings. We use open face towers now with about 60 plants in a 3' tower to get a nice, lush tower- still only yields a pound or two, but that's just cilantro. Sage does fine for us, but we're not doing raft. They need lots of O2 or they rot. I think they can be hard to do in raft systems, but media systems should grow it.</p> We can do sage pretty well!…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2630132011-12-07T23:08:46.424ZNate Storeyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/NateStorey
<p>We can do sage pretty well!<br/> <br/> <cite>jon and cat billings said:</cite></p>
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<p>We can do sage pretty well!<br/> <br/> <cite>jon and cat billings said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A263114&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment263114"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>sage?</p>
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</blockquote> That's a good idea. I'll test…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2624192011-12-07T02:09:06.084ZMichael Davidsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelDavidson
<p>That's a good idea. I'll test the system I have now at the growtub after a fill and then at the sump, although I don't expect a big pH difference. I love blueberries so I hope some strategies can be sorted out.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A236516&page=5#4778851Comment262411"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Michael, can you tell…</p>
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<p>That's a good idea. I'll test the system I have now at the growtub after a fill and then at the sump, although I don't expect a big pH difference. I love blueberries so I hope some strategies can be sorted out.<br/> <br/> <cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A236516&page=5#4778851Comment262411"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Michael, can you tell any difference in the pH in the different locations?</p>
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</blockquote> I am growing spinach hydropon…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2621892011-12-07T02:07:21.835ZBrianhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Brian649
<p>I am growing spinach hydroponically from seed right now in my basement using a simple but effective deep water culture system with air stones and a couple of T8s. Right now the plants are 6 inches high and growing like crazy.</p>
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<p><br></br><br></br><cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?xg_source=activity#4778851Comment236434"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I remember doing some…</p>
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<p>I am growing spinach hydroponically from seed right now in my basement using a simple but effective deep water culture system with air stones and a couple of T8s. Right now the plants are 6 inches high and growing like crazy.</p>
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<p><br/><br/><cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?xg_source=activity#4778851Comment236434"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I remember doing some research into trying to grow spinach hydroponically years ago. It is a notoriously difficult one to get reliable germination when seeding hydroponically.</p>
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<p>I've had great luck with it when planting in soil/compost but I too have had difficulty getting good results in aquaponics. I'm currently trying to start some spinach in pellets now for the towers since I too think it would be a good product. Crazy since beets and swiss chard do so well in aquaponics, one would think the close relative spinach should be easy too.</p>
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</blockquote> Michael, can you tell any dif…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2624112011-12-07T01:51:20.616ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Michael, can you tell any difference in the pH in the different locations?</p>
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<p>Michael, can you tell any difference in the pH in the different locations?</p>
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I did indeed have a con…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2624092011-12-07T01:33:35.105ZMichael Davidsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelDavidson
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<p>I did indeed have a concern about salts building up but thought the natural adjustment approach might be okay. This is essentially the system I have now with the only difference being I don't have the separate adjustment reservoirs. I use shells in a media bag at the Fish Run's sump return and peat balls in 2 of the flood/drain grow beds. It's only 115 gallons (FT/sump combined) and even though I took the "cooking without a recipe" approach after carefully controlled cycling to…</p>
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<p>I did indeed have a concern about salts building up but thought the natural adjustment approach might be okay. This is essentially the system I have now with the only difference being I don't have the separate adjustment reservoirs. I use shells in a media bag at the Fish Run's sump return and peat balls in 2 of the flood/drain grow beds. It's only 115 gallons (FT/sump combined) and even though I took the "cooking without a recipe" approach after carefully controlled cycling to establish bacteria, the system is pretty rock solid. I also allow natural rainwater to fall on the beds and overflow the sump at times. I feed my bass with worms from a vermicomposter and have more worms in the grow beds.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Nate Storey said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A236516&page=4#4778851Comment262404"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Michael,</p>
<p>The concept is interesting, but in reality this setup would be very unstable- trying to operate with constant pH adjustment up and down simultaneously would eventually cause a buildup of your pH regulators- bad news. The reality is that pH will range naturally depending on where it is in the system, but each system should be set to shoot for a certain pH. Most plants aren't sensitive enough to care anyways. Most plants are going to be fairly happy in pretty acidic conditions.</p>
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</blockquote> LOL. Sahib, yes, it's not pat…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2624082011-12-07T01:05:05.661ZMichael Davidsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelDavidson
<p>LOL. Sahib, yes, it's not patented, it''s only the image itself that is watermarked. It has nothing to do with restricting the idea it describes or whether or not someone has built or will build or sketch a system based from it. I would just prefer the image be referenced from the Aquaponics Community site. It drives traffic and I encourage everyone to do the same.</p>
<p>Cheers.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Sahib Punjabi said:…</cite></p>
<p>LOL. Sahib, yes, it's not patented, it''s only the image itself that is watermarked. It has nothing to do with restricting the idea it describes or whether or not someone has built or will build or sketch a system based from it. I would just prefer the image be referenced from the Aquaponics Community site. It drives traffic and I encourage everyone to do the same.</p>
<p>Cheers.<br/> <br/> <cite>Sahib Punjabi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/holy-grail-for-aquaponic-production?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A236516&page=4#4778851Comment262255"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Nice...love the copy write :-)</p>
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<p>So much for being "open source"! So how are you going to know if someone has already built something similar or builds one later? Perhaps what you are stating is that the image is copy write.</p>
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<p>God bless<br/> <br/> <cite>Michael Davidson said:</cite></p>
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<p>Might something like the above be a starting point for what we want? I thought perhaps the beds could use a wicking-bed approach with a soil/sand/gravel top layer hybridized with a porous barrier above a bottom layer that is continuous flow through hydroton.</p>
<p>For a natural buffer I thought to use peat balls, bogwood, alder cones and or almond leaves in the PH down reservoir.</p>
<p>I thought to use use media bags of bird gravel, oyster shells, and or egg shells in the PH up reservoir.</p>
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</blockquote> If the system has a single pu…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-07:4778851:Comment:2621772011-12-07T00:53:16.533ZRupertofOZhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RupertofOZ
<p>If the system has a single pump.. fed from the sump... that all pH adjusted beds dump too... then wont the pH of all beds just ultimately level/balance out.. with ever decreasing buffer increments...</p>
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<p>And as Nate says... aside from all the disadvantages... what are the advantages... most plants ( i haven't found one yet).... will grow perfectly well...in fact optimally IMO... in an acidic range of pH.. from 6.2-6.8...</p>
<p>If the system has a single pump.. fed from the sump... that all pH adjusted beds dump too... then wont the pH of all beds just ultimately level/balance out.. with ever decreasing buffer increments...</p>
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<p>And as Nate says... aside from all the disadvantages... what are the advantages... most plants ( i haven't found one yet).... will grow perfectly well...in fact optimally IMO... in an acidic range of pH.. from 6.2-6.8...</p>