High PH, Help! - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T12:33:51Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/high-ph-help?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A544597&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell, by "worm tea" I'm not t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-02-02:4778851:Comment:5452202014-02-02T14:19:00.060ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Well, by "worm tea" I'm not talking about using the leachate from worm composting. Brewing worm tea involves taking a bag of worm castings, soaking in water (with some added molasses or other sugar) and heavily aerating it. Aerating the castings knocks a lot of beneficial microorganism off of the castings and into the water, which then feed on the sugar and create a microorganism "soup". Take that soup and apply it as a foliar spray or dump the contents into your system water to introduce…</p>
<p>Well, by "worm tea" I'm not talking about using the leachate from worm composting. Brewing worm tea involves taking a bag of worm castings, soaking in water (with some added molasses or other sugar) and heavily aerating it. Aerating the castings knocks a lot of beneficial microorganism off of the castings and into the water, which then feed on the sugar and create a microorganism "soup". Take that soup and apply it as a foliar spray or dump the contents into your system water to introduce beneficial bacteria and fungi to your plant leaves and grow media. It's a good way to foster biodiversity in your system. Bought an air pump recently, and I'm planning on building a brewer soon.</p>
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<p>Maxicrop supplies a lot of nutrients that are often missing in aquaponic systems. Magnesium, iron, manganese, etc. But I'm just using up the leftovers from cycling my system by adding a couple tablespoons every week or so.<br/> <br/> <cite>Sonja Martin Young said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/high-ph-help#4778851Comment545213"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Alex tell us more about your idea with using worm tea and maxi crop. How much and are you using it in your water or as a foliar spray? My worms are making a lot of tea and I would like to use it the best way possible. Thanks <br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/high-ph-help#4778851Comment545067"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>pH down works great. Unfortunately, I have yet to uncover a long term solution...</p>
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<p>You can buy chelated iron to add to your system. Sylvia sells some on her site:</p>
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<p>Personally, I think I'm gonna start playing around with Maxicrop (liquid seaweed) as a temporary solution for missing nutrients (mostly 'cause I've already got it). My long term solution for nutrient deficiencies looks something like worm tea....</p>
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</blockquote> Alex tell us more about your…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-02-02:4778851:Comment:5452132014-02-02T03:45:40.562ZSonja Martin Younghttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SonjaMartinYoung
Alex tell us more about your idea with using worm tea and maxi crop. How much and are you using it in your water or as a foliar spray? My worms are making a lot of tea and I would like to use it the best way possible. Thanks <br></br>
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<cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/high-ph-help#4778851Comment545067"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>pH down works great. Unfortunately, I have yet to uncover a long term…</p>
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Alex tell us more about your idea with using worm tea and maxi crop. How much and are you using it in your water or as a foliar spray? My worms are making a lot of tea and I would like to use it the best way possible. Thanks <br/>
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<cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/high-ph-help#4778851Comment545067"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>pH down works great. Unfortunately, I have yet to uncover a long term solution...</p>
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<p>You can buy chelated iron to add to your system. Sylvia sells some on her site:</p>
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<p>Personally, I think I'm gonna start playing around with Maxicrop (liquid seaweed) as a temporary solution for missing nutrients (mostly 'cause I've already got it). My long term solution for nutrient deficiencies looks something like worm tea....</p>
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</blockquote> Hey guys, kale does need a bi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5449672014-01-31T21:23:38.183ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Hey guys, kale does need a bit more magnesium than lettuce and other greens (hence why eating kale is a good source of Mg).</p>
<p>Problem is at lower pH levels Mg deficiencies seem to be exacerbated, while at high pH's it's iron (Fe) that then tends to become locked out. In a nut shell, your immediate (and hopefully temporary) solutions are :</p>
<p>1) Lower pH and add a source of Mg (like Epsom salt or magnesium chloride salt)</p>
<p>2) Leave your pH as it is and add Fe. (An EDDHA chelate…</p>
<p>Hey guys, kale does need a bit more magnesium than lettuce and other greens (hence why eating kale is a good source of Mg).</p>
<p>Problem is at lower pH levels Mg deficiencies seem to be exacerbated, while at high pH's it's iron (Fe) that then tends to become locked out. In a nut shell, your immediate (and hopefully temporary) solutions are :</p>
<p>1) Lower pH and add a source of Mg (like Epsom salt or magnesium chloride salt)</p>
<p>2) Leave your pH as it is and add Fe. (An EDDHA chelate works well into the mid 8's pH level. The DTPA that Sylvia sells should work alright at your pH levels though).</p>
<p>3) Add both regardless of whether you choose to lower pH or not (I'd probably drop the pH and add both, but that's just Me)</p>
<p>You could with either one (Mg or Fe)use a foliar spray and get locked into a regime of spraying (which is fine). Just use some kind of anti-fungal in the spray mixture so you do not invite pathogens by having excess free water on the leaves.</p>
<p>And be aware that Mg deficiencies are a bit harder to correct as opposed to Fe (should that little tid bit calculate into your decision is up to you :)</p> Thank you for your time and a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5451122014-01-31T17:01:12.939ZLesliehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LeslieLashbrook
<p>Thank you for your time and advice! I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time and advice! I really appreciate it.</p> pH down works great. Unfortun…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5450672014-01-31T16:51:00.217ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>pH down works great. Unfortunately, I have yet to uncover a long term solution...</p>
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<p>You can buy chelated iron to add to your system. Sylvia sells some on her site:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.theaquaponicstore.com/AquaIron-DTPA-Iron-Chelate-p/agsas002.htm" target="_blank">http://www.theaquaponicstore.com/AquaIron-DTPA-Iron-Chelate-p/agsas002.htm</a></p>
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<p>Personally, I think I'm gonna start playing around with Maxicrop (liquid seaweed) as a temporary solution for…</p>
<p>pH down works great. Unfortunately, I have yet to uncover a long term solution...</p>
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<p>You can buy chelated iron to add to your system. Sylvia sells some on her site:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.theaquaponicstore.com/AquaIron-DTPA-Iron-Chelate-p/agsas002.htm" target="_blank">http://www.theaquaponicstore.com/AquaIron-DTPA-Iron-Chelate-p/agsas002.htm</a></p>
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<p>Personally, I think I'm gonna start playing around with Maxicrop (liquid seaweed) as a temporary solution for missing nutrients (mostly 'cause I've already got it). My long term solution for nutrient deficiencies looks something like worm tea....</p> No,I haven't added anything b…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5450652014-01-31T16:22:16.355ZLesliehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LeslieLashbrook
<p>No,I haven't added anything before. I've only had plants for a month and a half now. So this is my first problem. How do I add it?</p>
<p>Should I use just PH down? Or is there a better long term solution?</p>
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<p>No,I haven't added anything before. I've only had plants for a month and a half now. So this is my first problem. How do I add it?</p>
<p>Should I use just PH down? Or is there a better long term solution?</p>
<p></p> Sounds like a magnesium defic…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5451072014-01-31T16:04:40.097ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Sounds like a magnesium deficiency then. Or I could be wrong. I'm still a little new at properly identifying every kind of deficiency properly :)</p>
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<p>Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate; relatively inexpensive and works great as a foliar spray. Throw a couple teaspoons of it into a spray bottle and apply it to your plant leaves. You can add it to your system water, but sometimes the presence of other nutrients tend to tie it up (calcium, I think...) I would also try to get that pH…</p>
<p>Sounds like a magnesium deficiency then. Or I could be wrong. I'm still a little new at properly identifying every kind of deficiency properly :)</p>
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<p>Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate; relatively inexpensive and works great as a foliar spray. Throw a couple teaspoons of it into a spray bottle and apply it to your plant leaves. You can add it to your system water, but sometimes the presence of other nutrients tend to tie it up (calcium, I think...) I would also try to get that pH down to level, in case it's preventing your plants from uptaking iron. Have you ever added iron to your system?</p> You are correct, it is kale i…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5450572014-01-31T15:47:56.212ZLesliehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LeslieLashbrook
<p>You are correct, it is kale in the third picture. The older leaves are yellowing, but now some of the new growth is showing it.</p>
<p>You are correct, it is kale in the third picture. The older leaves are yellowing, but now some of the new growth is showing it.</p> Thanks Leslie, that helps a l…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5450332014-01-31T04:11:59.458ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Thanks Leslie, that helps a lot. I think you're right. You've either got an iron deficiency or a magnesium deficiency. Iron is an immobile nutrient, so when the plant produces new growth, the new growth shows signs of deficiency, while magnesium is mobile, so the plant draws it it from its older leaves to produce new growth and the old leaves look deficient. I can't really see the whole plant in the third picture (kale?). Are the newer or older leaves yellowing?</p>
<p>Thanks Leslie, that helps a lot. I think you're right. You've either got an iron deficiency or a magnesium deficiency. Iron is an immobile nutrient, so when the plant produces new growth, the new growth shows signs of deficiency, while magnesium is mobile, so the plant draws it it from its older leaves to produce new growth and the old leaves look deficient. I can't really see the whole plant in the third picture (kale?). Are the newer or older leaves yellowing?</p> I'm using hydroton for my med…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-01-31:4778851:Comment:5449282014-01-31T03:47:41.919ZLesliehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LeslieLashbrook
<p>I'm using hydroton for my media. I've attached a few pictures of the plants.</p>
<p>What would be the best solution for maintaining a lower PH?</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I'm using hydroton for my media. I've attached a few pictures of the plants.</p>
<p>What would be the best solution for maintaining a lower PH?</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p>