high nitrate level and elevated ammonia - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T09:22:53Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A291334&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI struggle with that as well…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-10:4778851:Comment:2913342012-02-10T06:17:36.207ZChip Pilkingtonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChipPilkington
<p>I struggle with that as well - I have repositioned my pump (I don't use a sump, so I pump directly from the FT), but still have some solids. Someone on another site commented that they just take a sweep with a net on occasion (especially if you have big waste producing Tilapia). I've been doing that recently and it works pretty well. I'm always poking my head in the tank while feeding (my fish are very friendly), looking for anything out of the ordinary so it's not a big deal. The stuff that…</p>
<p>I struggle with that as well - I have repositioned my pump (I don't use a sump, so I pump directly from the FT), but still have some solids. Someone on another site commented that they just take a sweep with a net on occasion (especially if you have big waste producing Tilapia). I've been doing that recently and it works pretty well. I'm always poking my head in the tank while feeding (my fish are very friendly), looking for anything out of the ordinary so it's not a big deal. The stuff that goes through the pump gets chopped up and pulled out in a swirl filter before the water hits the GB's. It's not a typical setup, but my water quality is excellent - tests right where it should.</p>
<p>Anyway, sounds like you're on track.</p> Top ups good.
If fish poo or…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-10:4778851:Comment:2908762012-02-10T00:09:33.262ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Top ups good.</p>
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<p>If fish poo or uneaten feed is settling in the tank and not being moved to the grow beds then yes you need to remove it. You might try adjusting the flow and aeration to the tank to see if you can get the solids to be sucked out of the tank without you having to mess with it yourself.</p>
<p>Top ups good.</p>
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<p>If fish poo or uneaten feed is settling in the tank and not being moved to the grow beds then yes you need to remove it. You might try adjusting the flow and aeration to the tank to see if you can get the solids to be sucked out of the tank without you having to mess with it yourself.</p> ok so i can use the water fro…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-09:4778851:Comment:2911272012-02-09T21:51:09.216Zjohn taylorhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/johntaylor
<p>ok so i can use the water from my 12 rain barrels as just a top off without having to treat ..what about the settling of fish poo on tank bottom does that need to be removed ?<br></br><br></br><cite>Chip Pilkington said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?page=2&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A290688&x=1#4778851Comment290688"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Hi John,<br></br>Water changes are another no no. Once…</div>
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<p>ok so i can use the water from my 12 rain barrels as just a top off without having to treat ..what about the settling of fish poo on tank bottom does that need to be removed ?<br/><br/><cite>Chip Pilkington said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?page=2&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A290688&x=1#4778851Comment290688"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Hi John,<br/>Water changes are another no no. Once again, AP is different tha keeping fish in an aquarium. Adding top up water is about the only thing required, outside of a sick fish scenario. Water changes actual disrupt the cycle/balance in your system. Depending on the size of your system and quality of tap water, you may not need to treat. I use rain water and/or off gas tap water in a barrel for top ups. I go through about 200L a week, so there is new water coming in, but I never drain off old water. Once again, a sick fish scenario is different.</div>
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Water changes are an…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-09:4778851:Comment:2906882012-02-09T03:22:24.465ZChip Pilkingtonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChipPilkington
Hi John,<br />
Water changes are another no no. Once again, AP is different tha keeping fish in an aquarium. Adding top up water is about the only thing required, outside of a sick fish scenario. Water changes actual disrupt the cycle/balance in your system. Depending on the size of your system and quality of tap water, you may not need to treat. I use rain water and/or off gas tap water in a barrel for top ups. I go through about 200L a week, so there is new water coming in, but I never drain off…
Hi John,<br />
Water changes are another no no. Once again, AP is different tha keeping fish in an aquarium. Adding top up water is about the only thing required, outside of a sick fish scenario. Water changes actual disrupt the cycle/balance in your system. Depending on the size of your system and quality of tap water, you may not need to treat. I use rain water and/or off gas tap water in a barrel for top ups. I go through about 200L a week, so there is new water coming in, but I never drain off old water. Once again, a sick fish scenario is different. I use a product called ClorAm…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-08:4778851:Comment:2908052012-02-08T22:44:52.585ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>I use a product called ClorAm-X for declorination of my tap water and have lots of microscopic creatures thriving in my system. It will get rid of the dreaded Chloramines which don't evaporate as fast as regular chlorine, and is supposed to reduce ammonia as well. You can also use a garden hose carbon filter.</p>
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<p>I use a product called ClorAm-X for declorination of my tap water and have lots of microscopic creatures thriving in my system. It will get rid of the dreaded Chloramines which don't evaporate as fast as regular chlorine, and is supposed to reduce ammonia as well. You can also use a garden hose carbon filter.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia#4778851Comment290640"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>thanks for the info chip but was wondering when doing a 25% water change with household tap water what would you reccomend to de chlorinate the water that wouldnt be harmful to the plants?<br/><br/><cite>Chip Pilkington said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?page=1&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A289959&x=1#4778851Comment289959"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi John,</p>
<p>As everyone has mentioned, you need to get Ammonia to 0. Nitrates at 80 is not a problem.</p>
<p>I would also eliminate the additives - an AP system is not an aquarium. You shouldn't need anything, especially at 7 mo.</p>
<p>I'm guess the stress coat contains or is sea salt? Fish like it, plants hate it.</p>
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</blockquote> thanks for the info chip but…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-08:4778851:Comment:2906402012-02-08T21:38:40.876Zjohn taylorhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/johntaylor
<p>thanks for the info chip but was wondering when doing a 25% water change with household tap water what would you reccomend to de chlorinate the water that wouldnt be harmful to the plants?<br></br><br></br><cite>Chip Pilkington said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?page=1&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A289959&x=1#4778851Comment289959"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi John,</p>
<p>As everyone has…</p>
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<p>thanks for the info chip but was wondering when doing a 25% water change with household tap water what would you reccomend to de chlorinate the water that wouldnt be harmful to the plants?<br/><br/><cite>Chip Pilkington said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?page=1&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A289959&x=1#4778851Comment289959"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi John,</p>
<p>As everyone has mentioned, you need to get Ammonia to 0. Nitrates at 80 is not a problem.</p>
<p>I would also eliminate the additives - an AP system is not an aquarium. You shouldn't need anything, especially at 7 mo.</p>
<p>I'm guess the stress coat contains or is sea salt? Fish like it, plants hate it.</p>
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As everyone has ment…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-07:4778851:Comment:2899592012-02-07T07:24:17.158ZChip Pilkingtonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChipPilkington
<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>As everyone has mentioned, you need to get Ammonia to 0. Nitrates at 80 is not a problem.</p>
<p>I would also eliminate the additives - an AP system is not an aquarium. You shouldn't need anything, especially at 7 mo.</p>
<p>I'm guess the stress coat contains or is sea salt? Fish like it, plants hate it.</p>
<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>As everyone has mentioned, you need to get Ammonia to 0. Nitrates at 80 is not a problem.</p>
<p>I would also eliminate the additives - an AP system is not an aquarium. You shouldn't need anything, especially at 7 mo.</p>
<p>I'm guess the stress coat contains or is sea salt? Fish like it, plants hate it.</p> thanx for the advice...think…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-06:4778851:Comment:2896552012-02-06T23:56:03.557Zjohn taylorhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/johntaylor
<p>thanx for the advice...think i'll stock up on tarter sauce<br></br><br></br><cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A288974&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment289296"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes more grow beds and better lighting will probably both help. But you may still need to eat some fish since you have quite a lot for you system. Even running MAX…</p>
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<p>thanx for the advice...think i'll stock up on tarter sauce<br/><br/><cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/high-nitrate-level-and-elevated-ammonia?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A288974&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment289296"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes more grow beds and better lighting will probably both help. But you may still need to eat some fish since you have quite a lot for you system. Even running MAX stocking numbers that are better left to the experts, if you grow out all those fish in that system, without removing any, you are way over stocked. According to those MAX stocking numbers, you only have enough filtration for 15 lb of fish so if you are growing your fish out to 1 lb then you have more than twice as many fish as your filters can support. </p>
<p>The more sane stocking levels for people who are not experts at fish keeping would be 1 fish per every cubic foot of grow bed (or about 1 fish per every 7.4 gallons of grow bed) which puts the recommendation for the number of fish in your system currently at about 10 fish growing out to 1 lb each. It isn't about how much fish tank you have, it's more about is there enough filtration. Start eating the big fish.<a style="cursor: pointer;" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/> And add more grow bed and better lighting and things will probably settle in for you.<br/></a></p>
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</blockquote> Yes more grow beds and better…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-06:4778851:Comment:2892962012-02-06T23:42:50.128ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Yes more grow beds and better lighting will probably both help. But you may still need to eat some fish since you have quite a lot for you system. Even running MAX stocking numbers that are better left to the experts, if you grow out all those fish in that system, without removing any, you are way over stocked. According to those MAX stocking numbers, you only have enough filtration for 15 lb of fish so if you are growing your fish out to 1 lb then you have more than twice as many fish as…</p>
<p>Yes more grow beds and better lighting will probably both help. But you may still need to eat some fish since you have quite a lot for you system. Even running MAX stocking numbers that are better left to the experts, if you grow out all those fish in that system, without removing any, you are way over stocked. According to those MAX stocking numbers, you only have enough filtration for 15 lb of fish so if you are growing your fish out to 1 lb then you have more than twice as many fish as your filters can support. </p>
<p>The more sane stocking levels for people who are not experts at fish keeping would be 1 fish per every cubic foot of grow bed (or about 1 fish per every 7.4 gallons of grow bed) which puts the recommendation for the number of fish in your system currently at about 10 fish growing out to 1 lb each. It isn't about how much fish tank you have, it's more about is there enough filtration. Start eating the big fish.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/> And add more grow bed and better lighting and things will probably settle in for you.<br/></a></p> sorry for capstag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-06:4778851:Comment:2896022012-02-06T20:19:46.815Zjohn taylorhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/johntaylor
<p>sorry for caps</p>
<p>sorry for caps</p>