Hello, I'm new - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T14:48:19Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/hello-i-m-new?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A178405&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIf you are on city water, you…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1784052011-08-12T01:39:32.782ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>If you are on city water, you probably have some sort of water treatment to deal with. To know which it is, you need to contact your water utility to find out what they use.</p>
<p>Chlorine can be outgassed by leaving it out in a bucket or barrel in the sun or aerating it somehow for a day or three.</p>
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<p>Chloramine takes weeks to go away just by aerating so you will probably need some other way to deal with it.</p>
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<p>A carbon filter can get rid of either of those…</p>
<p>If you are on city water, you probably have some sort of water treatment to deal with. To know which it is, you need to contact your water utility to find out what they use.</p>
<p>Chlorine can be outgassed by leaving it out in a bucket or barrel in the sun or aerating it somehow for a day or three.</p>
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<p>Chloramine takes weeks to go away just by aerating so you will probably need some other way to deal with it.</p>
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<p>A carbon filter can get rid of either of those treatments. They make a hose end filter that can take care of it or something like most faucet filters will take care of it as would something like a britta filter.</p> Thanks...I guess everything I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1780552011-08-12T01:35:36.821ZKouhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kou
<p>Thanks...I guess everything I've done is wrong. I'll do a 50% water change tomorrow immediately right after work.</p>
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<p>BTW, how do you know if your water is without chlorine or chloramine? I lived in the city and my water are filtered through the city water systems.</p>
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<p>TCl, try to make me understand this chemistry. I'm not a big fan of science btw, almost flunt all science course. How can a fishless cycling be faster than fish cycling system? The fish produce the…</p>
<p>Thanks...I guess everything I've done is wrong. I'll do a 50% water change tomorrow immediately right after work.</p>
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<p>BTW, how do you know if your water is without chlorine or chloramine? I lived in the city and my water are filtered through the city water systems.</p>
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<p>TCl, try to make me understand this chemistry. I'm not a big fan of science btw, almost flunt all science course. How can a fishless cycling be faster than fish cycling system? The fish produce the Ammonia right?</p> Cycling with or without plant…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1782182011-08-12T01:09:37.831ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Cycling with or without plants takes about the same time.</p>
<p>It is the fish that change things.</p>
<p>In Fishless cycling you can bring the ammonia up higher without worry about harming fish and let the process take it's course. Fishless cycling in good conditions usually takes 3 weeks</p>
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<p>Cycling with fish usually takes 6 weeks (some people might manage in 4 weeks with tricks like getting mature media from an already cycled system but it still takes time for the bacteria…</p>
<p>Cycling with or without plants takes about the same time.</p>
<p>It is the fish that change things.</p>
<p>In Fishless cycling you can bring the ammonia up higher without worry about harming fish and let the process take it's course. Fishless cycling in good conditions usually takes 3 weeks</p>
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<p>Cycling with fish usually takes 6 weeks (some people might manage in 4 weeks with tricks like getting mature media from an already cycled system but it still takes time for the bacteria colony to establish in the new system. Under less favorable conditions cycling can take 8 weeks.)</p> So you are saying you have li…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1782172011-08-12T01:04:58.436ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>So you are saying you have like 40 fish in a system with only 100 liters of media bed. You need more media ASAP.</p>
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<p>Still same advice, do a 50% water change (water with no chlorine or chloramine.) Don't feed until both your ammonia and nitrite levels are below .5 ppm. Cycle up with fish actually normally takes 4-6 weeks under good conditions (managing cycle up in 3 weeks is usually fishless with all the tricks and there is still usually a 3 week period of needing to monitor…</p>
<p>So you are saying you have like 40 fish in a system with only 100 liters of media bed. You need more media ASAP.</p>
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<p>Still same advice, do a 50% water change (water with no chlorine or chloramine.) Don't feed until both your ammonia and nitrite levels are below .5 ppm. Cycle up with fish actually normally takes 4-6 weeks under good conditions (managing cycle up in 3 weeks is usually fishless with all the tricks and there is still usually a 3 week period of needing to monitor water quality closely and restrain feeding once fish are added. </p>
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<p>Once your ammonia and nitrite readings are down to .5 or lower</p>
<p>Then you will have to feed very minimally and watch the levels to know if you dare feed that day or not. If you want to be able to feed these fish up, you need a lot more media bed. 40 fish is a lot to start with, I don't care if the fish tank is 300 gallons, you need enough filtration to support the fish and a 100 liter grow bed is only about enough for 6 tilapia to grow out in my book and only if you are an expert fish keeping.</p> Harold,
Harold, since I don…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1777772011-08-12T00:57:49.356ZKouhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kou
<p>Harold,</p>
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<p>Harold, since I dont have another tanks, by doing a water change will help saved the fishes right.</p>
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<p>If after doing the half water changed, I put an aquarium heater in there to keep the temps up to about 78-80, I should be fine right?</p>
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<p>Chris,</p>
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<p>Fishless cycling with plants typically takes how long?</p>
<p>Fishless cycling without plants typically takes how long?</p>
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<p>Harold,</p>
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<p>Harold, since I dont have another tanks, by doing a water change will help saved the fishes right.</p>
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<p>If after doing the half water changed, I put an aquarium heater in there to keep the temps up to about 78-80, I should be fine right?</p>
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<p>Chris,</p>
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<p>Fishless cycling with plants typically takes how long?</p>
<p>Fishless cycling without plants typically takes how long?</p>
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<p> </p> Hi Kou,
The water change is t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1780512011-08-12T00:44:07.706ZHarold Sukhbirhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HaroldSukhbir
<p>Hi Kou,</p>
<p>The water change is to save the fish as they are under some serious stress right now. Even if they get through this there will still be gill damage and it will also affect the health of the fish further down the line. Yes the water change will slow the cycling but only by a few days. At 78 degrees it took me 10 days but that's doing everything by the book and with a few added tricks. It normally takes around two weeks with temps like yours. Make certain the new water is…</p>
<p>Hi Kou,</p>
<p>The water change is to save the fish as they are under some serious stress right now. Even if they get through this there will still be gill damage and it will also affect the health of the fish further down the line. Yes the water change will slow the cycling but only by a few days. At 78 degrees it took me 10 days but that's doing everything by the book and with a few added tricks. It normally takes around two weeks with temps like yours. Make certain the new water is dechlorinated.</p> Really it would have been a b…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1783112011-08-12T00:38:09.213ZChris McMahonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcMahon
Really it would have been a breeze if you cycled the system before adding the fish. We all live and learn.
Really it would have been a breeze if you cycled the system before adding the fish. We all live and learn. Chris, I have not changed the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1783072011-08-12T00:18:16.529ZKouhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Kou
<p>Chris, I have not changed the water. But Tuesday night it rain for a couple hours.</p>
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<p>Harold, so you recommend do a half water change, in order to lower my Nitrite level? But will this effect the system, and probably prolong it?</p>
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<p>Typically a fish cyling system with plants, takes how long for the cycle to complete? Man, this is harder than law school....hahahahha</p>
<p>Chris, I have not changed the water. But Tuesday night it rain for a couple hours.</p>
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<p>Harold, so you recommend do a half water change, in order to lower my Nitrite level? But will this effect the system, and probably prolong it?</p>
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<p>Typically a fish cyling system with plants, takes how long for the cycle to complete? Man, this is harder than law school....hahahahha</p> Hi Kou,
The fish can go for t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1777692011-08-12T00:09:10.384ZHarold Sukhbirhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HaroldSukhbir
<p>Hi Kou,</p>
<p>The fish can go for two weeks without feeding. Please do not feed!! Your nitrites are too high so a 50% water change as soon as possible. You're still cycling, and from your temperatures shouldn't be more than one week left, so have some patience but no more feed for now. You can test every other day until you get zero nitrites before you start feeding.</p>
<p>Hi Kou,</p>
<p>The fish can go for two weeks without feeding. Please do not feed!! Your nitrites are too high so a 50% water change as soon as possible. You're still cycling, and from your temperatures shouldn't be more than one week left, so have some patience but no more feed for now. You can test every other day until you get zero nitrites before you start feeding.</p> Wild swings in the readings.…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-12:4778851:Comment:1780472011-08-12T00:08:02.777ZChris McMahonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcMahon
Wild swings in the readings. On Tuesday you had 5.0 on ammonia today you have .25 that is a great change. Did you change out water?
Wild swings in the readings. On Tuesday you had 5.0 on ammonia today you have .25 that is a great change. Did you change out water?