Has anyone here done this indoors?? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T05:51:46Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A467831&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A28135&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey Scott,
Some pics would be…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-26:4778851:Comment:4678312013-04-26T15:02:36.105ZJohn Wolffhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnWolff
<p>Hey Scott,</p>
<p>Some pics would be great! You can send them direct to me if you want at j.wolff47@gmail.com</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>John</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Scott Mooney said:</cite></p>
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<p>Hey Scott,</p>
<p>Some pics would be great! You can send them direct to me if you want at j.wolff47@gmail.com</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>John</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Scott Mooney said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&xg_source=activity&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A28135&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A466269&page=2#4778851Comment467181"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi John,</p>
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<p>It does not seem that you have missed anything. I do not use a sump. My raw water pumps out of the FT which is on the floor beneath my GBs. It pumps up through soft tubing to a PVC adapter attached to a tee. Ball valves on each side of my tee control flow to my top two GBs, these are the shallow rectangles for my leafy crops. They flood slightly above siphon level when the water is flowing (water reaches the media surface) Once the water level is high enough for the siphons activate, they drain from both beds into one pipe leading to my larger bed a level below (thus creating 2 filtration stages) before returning to the FT via drain from bell siphon in the large GB. A larger diameter "tip" to the drain pipe aids in the suction for the siphon, and adds water pressure on the return, to supply aeration to the FT.</p>
<p>Hope that makes it easier to visualize. I can try to provide pics if needed. I have to stress that my setup is simple to almost downright crude. It works, but there may be(and probably is) more effective designs out there. However it was inexpensive, and is working (so far).<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></p>
<p>-Scott</p>
<p><br/> <cite>John Wolff said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A467161&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment467124"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Scott,</p>
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<p>It sounds like the system we want to build is very similar to yours except we are planning on having some 3 foot towers above our grow beds to grow leafy greens more efficiently. Our plan is to have one 100ga FT, three 2' x 3' GBs (approx. 16ga) and four 3' towers. We are planning on having the towers drain down into a gutter that flows right back into the tank. The water will fill the GB's to the height of the siphon drain and repeat the process. Am I missing anything? Is that about how your system works? Do you utilize a sump tank at all for this size of a system? Is there anything else I should be aware of other than the lighting issue?</p>
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<p>Thanks, John</p>
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It does not seem th…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-25:4778851:Comment:4671812013-04-25T19:20:06.506ZScott Mooneyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ScottMooney
<p>Hi John,</p>
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<p>It does not seem that you have missed anything. I do not use a sump. My raw water pumps out of the FT which is on the floor beneath my GBs. It pumps up through soft tubing to a PVC adapter attached to a tee. Ball valves on each side of my tee control flow to my top two GBs, these are the shallow rectangles for my leafy crops. They flood slightly above siphon level when the water is flowing (water reaches the media surface) Once the water level is high enough for…</p>
<p>Hi John,</p>
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<p>It does not seem that you have missed anything. I do not use a sump. My raw water pumps out of the FT which is on the floor beneath my GBs. It pumps up through soft tubing to a PVC adapter attached to a tee. Ball valves on each side of my tee control flow to my top two GBs, these are the shallow rectangles for my leafy crops. They flood slightly above siphon level when the water is flowing (water reaches the media surface) Once the water level is high enough for the siphons activate, they drain from both beds into one pipe leading to my larger bed a level below (thus creating 2 filtration stages) before returning to the FT via drain from bell siphon in the large GB. A larger diameter "tip" to the drain pipe aids in the suction for the siphon, and adds water pressure on the return, to supply aeration to the FT.</p>
<p>Hope that makes it easier to visualize. I can try to provide pics if needed. I have to stress that my setup is simple to almost downright crude. It works, but there may be(and probably is) more effective designs out there. However it was inexpensive, and is working (so far). :)</p>
<p>-Scott</p>
<p><br/> <cite>John Wolff said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A467161&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment467124"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Scott,</p>
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<p>It sounds like the system we want to build is very similar to yours except we are planning on having some 3 foot towers above our grow beds to grow leafy greens more efficiently. Our plan is to have one 100ga FT, three 2' x 3' GBs (approx. 16ga) and four 3' towers. We are planning on having the towers drain down into a gutter that flows right back into the tank. The water will fill the GB's to the height of the siphon drain and repeat the process. Am I missing anything? Is that about how your system works? Do you utilize a sump tank at all for this size of a system? Is there anything else I should be aware of other than the lighting issue?</p>
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<p>Thanks, John</p>
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</blockquote> I think you will need metal h…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-25:4778851:Comment:4671612013-04-25T14:55:40.943ZLinda Loganhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LindaLogan
<p>I think you will need metal halide or sodium vapor or their equivalent. The lights are on generally 16 hours. My neighbor runs his from 6 am to 11pm. You want to mimic daylight hours. If you are planning to grow things other than greens, cabbage, etc you need lots of strong light for fruit set and development. Light from a window won't be enough. Light costs can really be high. Also cycling can take up to 6 weeks.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>John Wolff said: …<br></br></cite></p>
<p>I think you will need metal halide or sodium vapor or their equivalent. The lights are on generally 16 hours. My neighbor runs his from 6 am to 11pm. You want to mimic daylight hours. If you are planning to grow things other than greens, cabbage, etc you need lots of strong light for fruit set and development. Light from a window won't be enough. Light costs can really be high. Also cycling can take up to 6 weeks.<br/> <br/> <cite>John Wolff said: <br/></cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A467065&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment467065"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks so much everyone for the feedback it really helps. Did not even consider the cost of lighting hopefully wont be too bad. Will the lights need to stay on all night? The room we will be using gets some daylight throughout the day which should also help keep the lighting cost down. Time will tell. We will be planting our seeds as soon as they arrive in the next couple of days and hopefully by the time we cycle our system for a week or so the plants will be ready to be planted.</p>
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</blockquote> I am glad someone mentioned e…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-25:4778851:Comment:4673112013-04-25T10:56:43.846Zmichael heeryhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/michaelheery
<p>I am glad someone mentioned electricity bills , <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Mike Creuzer said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&#4778851Comment466172"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The worst smell from my indoor AP is the basil! My wife says it smells like cat pee.</p>
<p>I am running nearly 300 gallons of water in my basement. I haven't had it do that "tropical fish store…</p>
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<p>I am glad someone mentioned electricity bills , <br/> <br/> <cite>Mike Creuzer said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&#4778851Comment466172"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The worst smell from my indoor AP is the basil! My wife says it smells like cat pee.</p>
<p>I am running nearly 300 gallons of water in my basement. I haven't had it do that "tropical fish store smell" thing yet. </p>
<p>If you can smell a small system, something's not balanced.</p>
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<p>The biggest issue I've seen with an indoor system is the cops parked out front for 6 months waiting for my lettuce to turn into something they can get a warrant on. I was tempted to plant some Okra, but thought better of it.</p>
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<p>The lighting bills add up quickly. That's my biggest issue. At my current harvest rates, I'd be better off unplugging the lights and buying from the farmers market. But I am in this thing to learn more than to eat at the moment.</p>
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Indoor gardening does…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-25:4778851:Comment:4673092013-04-25T09:59:35.995ZLeo White Bearhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LeoWhiteBear
<p>John-</p>
<p> Indoor gardening does require a lighting system. If you are growing with towers, you can also hang the lights vertically instead of horizontal to illuminate the towers. Depending on the plants you are growing you need to keep in mind the density if the plant canopy. Try to get enough illumination to reach at least 18-inches into the growth area.</p>
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<p> Indoor gardening does require a lighting system. If you are growing with towers, you can also hang the lights vertically instead of horizontal to illuminate the towers. Depending on the plants you are growing you need to keep in mind the density if the plant canopy. Try to get enough illumination to reach at least 18-inches into the growth area.</p> Hi Scott,
It sounds like the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-25:4778851:Comment:4671242013-04-25T04:14:46.309ZJohn Wolffhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnWolff
<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p></p>
<p>It sounds like the system we want to build is very similar to yours except we are planning on having some 3 foot towers above our grow beds to grow leafy greens more efficiently. Our plan is to have one 100ga FT, three 2' x 3' GBs (approx. 16ga) and four 3' towers. We are planning on having the towers drain down into a gutter that flows right back into the tank. The water will fill the GB's to the height of the siphon drain and repeat the process. Am I missing…</p>
<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p></p>
<p>It sounds like the system we want to build is very similar to yours except we are planning on having some 3 foot towers above our grow beds to grow leafy greens more efficiently. Our plan is to have one 100ga FT, three 2' x 3' GBs (approx. 16ga) and four 3' towers. We are planning on having the towers drain down into a gutter that flows right back into the tank. The water will fill the GB's to the height of the siphon drain and repeat the process. Am I missing anything? Is that about how your system works? Do you utilize a sump tank at all for this size of a system? Is there anything else I should be aware of other than the lighting issue?</p>
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<p>Thanks, John</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Scott Mooney said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/has-anyone-here-done-this-indoors?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&#4778851Comment466523"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi John,</p>
<p>My system is indoors, and the only odor came from a poor choice in feeding my catfish, I used fish scraps, not thinking about some of it being sucked up into the grow beds. Otherwise, noise is minimal, and no odor.</p>
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<p>My system is very simple, and construction cost was minimal. Lighting is greatest expense in the setup. Temperature is a factor, so keeping it in an area that has heat will help you.</p>
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<p>If the room is well-lit naturally, that can only help your ability to grow.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The grow beds are sufficient bio-filter for my tank, and I use an inexpensive pond pump to move water to the beds, and gravity & creative plumbing for the return. My tank is a 100g and there is a 250w heater to regulate water temp. I have 3 beds that total 80g volume.</p>
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<p>What were you planning to grow? That could factor in your choices when building your system.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks so much everyone for t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-25:4778851:Comment:4670652013-04-25T03:59:00.812ZJohn Wolffhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnWolff
<p>Thanks so much everyone for the feedback it really helps. Did not even consider the cost of lighting hopefully wont be too bad. Will the lights need to stay on all night? The room we will be using gets some daylight throughout the day which should also help keep the lighting cost down. Time will tell. We will be planting our seeds as soon as they arrive in the next couple of days and hopefully by the time we cycle our system for a week or so the plants will be ready to be planted.</p>
<p>Thanks so much everyone for the feedback it really helps. Did not even consider the cost of lighting hopefully wont be too bad. Will the lights need to stay on all night? The room we will be using gets some daylight throughout the day which should also help keep the lighting cost down. Time will tell. We will be planting our seeds as soon as they arrive in the next couple of days and hopefully by the time we cycle our system for a week or so the plants will be ready to be planted.</p> I have two small 150 gallon s…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-24:4778851:Comment:4666382013-04-24T01:05:56.472ZTom OBrienhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ThomasKOBrien
<p>I have two small 150 gallon system in the basement and they have worked out pretty well. Not much odor and we've had success growing lettuce, cabbage, and peas. I picked 48" flourescent fixtures for lighting because they are cheap, but I think the less intense lighting and the relatively cool temperature does limit what we can grow.</p>
<p>We have goldfish in one tank, and had trout in the other one. I think 100-150 gallons may be too small for trout because I only has a few that topped 3/4…</p>
<p>I have two small 150 gallon system in the basement and they have worked out pretty well. Not much odor and we've had success growing lettuce, cabbage, and peas. I picked 48" flourescent fixtures for lighting because they are cheap, but I think the less intense lighting and the relatively cool temperature does limit what we can grow.</p>
<p>We have goldfish in one tank, and had trout in the other one. I think 100-150 gallons may be too small for trout because I only has a few that topped 3/4 lb and fish growth was very uneven, but many people here grow them and you may have better luck than I did. They did taste good and they are fun to watch at feeding time.</p> We have an attached sunroom t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-23:4778851:Comment:4663922013-04-23T21:30:55.986ZVerna Grosshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VernaGross
We have an attached sunroom that is pretty much an additional room with open door most of the time. We have a 250 gal fish tank and 4 grow beds the water gravity flows from the FT to the grow beds then they drain with a bell syphen into 2 sump tanks that are then pumped back to the FT. We recently had an odor problem but I traced it to a root clogged area of a growbed. I cleaned that up and it went away. We have discovered that we must flush the lines that feed the grow beds at least monthly or…
We have an attached sunroom that is pretty much an additional room with open door most of the time. We have a 250 gal fish tank and 4 grow beds the water gravity flows from the FT to the grow beds then they drain with a bell syphen into 2 sump tanks that are then pumped back to the FT. We recently had an odor problem but I traced it to a root clogged area of a growbed. I cleaned that up and it went away. We have discovered that we must flush the lines that feed the grow beds at least monthly or the water gets a fowl odor and a dark sludge comes out. We are stocked with 35 small Tilapia & 6 good sized goldfish. Our water chemistry is maintaining at pH 6.8 ammonia .25 nitrites 0 nitrates 20-40<br />
We contine to learn from our system and love what it is giving back to us Hi John,
My system is indoors…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-04-23:4778851:Comment:4665232013-04-23T20:17:26.076ZScott Mooneyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ScottMooney
<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>My system is indoors, and the only odor came from a poor choice in feeding my catfish, I used fish scraps, not thinking about some of it being sucked up into the grow beds. Otherwise, noise is minimal, and no odor.</p>
<p></p>
<p>My system is very simple, and construction cost was minimal. Lighting is greatest expense in the setup. Temperature is a factor, so keeping it in an area that has heat will help you.</p>
<p></p>
<p>If the room is well-lit naturally, that can only…</p>
<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>My system is indoors, and the only odor came from a poor choice in feeding my catfish, I used fish scraps, not thinking about some of it being sucked up into the grow beds. Otherwise, noise is minimal, and no odor.</p>
<p></p>
<p>My system is very simple, and construction cost was minimal. Lighting is greatest expense in the setup. Temperature is a factor, so keeping it in an area that has heat will help you.</p>
<p></p>
<p>If the room is well-lit naturally, that can only help your ability to grow.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The grow beds are sufficient bio-filter for my tank, and I use an inexpensive pond pump to move water to the beds, and gravity & creative plumbing for the return. My tank is a 100g and there is a 250w heater to regulate water temp. I have 3 beds that total 80g volume.</p>
<p></p>
<p>What were you planning to grow? That could factor in your choices when building your system.</p>