Happy and grateful to have found this forum! - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T23:57:39Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/happy-and-grateful-to-have-found-this-forum?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A295267&feed=yes&xn_auth=noi too am a newbie but everyon…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-28:4778851:Comment:2995792012-02-28T12:23:42.095ZM D Fowlerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MDFowler
<p>i too am a newbie but everyone here is great about helping each othere out and giving advice. my head swims faster then the fishes at all the new things i try to pack in there and there are so much more to learn. MY advice to you is the one main one i had to learn here, patients. i kept wanting instant results, well instant results could be a week or two here.</p>
<p>i too am a newbie but everyone here is great about helping each othere out and giving advice. my head swims faster then the fishes at all the new things i try to pack in there and there are so much more to learn. MY advice to you is the one main one i had to learn here, patients. i kept wanting instant results, well instant results could be a week or two here.</p> it is actually a huge amount…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2952792012-02-19T23:49:28.147ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>it is actually a huge amount of work to grow enough worms to use as a substantial amount of fish feed, and this is probably a good thing cause things like worms and BSF larva are too high in fat to be the sole feed for fish.</p>
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<p>Most of us add some composting worms to the beds but some people have found that they some how just show up even when they were not added.</p>
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<p>And as the others say, if you want to harvest from the system, you will have to put something into the…</p>
<p>it is actually a huge amount of work to grow enough worms to use as a substantial amount of fish feed, and this is probably a good thing cause things like worms and BSF larva are too high in fat to be the sole feed for fish.</p>
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<p>Most of us add some composting worms to the beds but some people have found that they some how just show up even when they were not added.</p>
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<p>And as the others say, if you want to harvest from the system, you will have to put something into the system and fish feed is the most logical thing to add into the system for most of us.</p> don't get upset if you dump a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2954312012-02-19T19:28:57.106Zchris taylor Swamp Creek Farmshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/christaylor
<p>don't get upset if you dump a container of worms in your system and dont see a result so fast.. i added some a year ago, every time i go fishing i add the survivors to the systems, now they are every where i look, i feed the fish with them, use them for bait, and let them do their jobs.</p>
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<p>don't get upset if you dump a container of worms in your system and dont see a result so fast.. i added some a year ago, every time i go fishing i add the survivors to the systems, now they are every where i look, i feed the fish with them, use them for bait, and let them do their jobs.</p>
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<p></p> AKA...Eisenia fetida
But don…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2952672012-02-19T19:13:42.892ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>AKA...Eisenia fetida </p>
<p>But don't go throwing in a fresh handful that have been busy composting cow manure recently...As this may be a way of introducing pathogens into your system. I think that's covered in some of those threads on the topic, and probably the one I linked.</p>
<p>AKA...Eisenia fetida </p>
<p>But don't go throwing in a fresh handful that have been busy composting cow manure recently...As this may be a way of introducing pathogens into your system. I think that's covered in some of those threads on the topic, and probably the one I linked.</p> It happens naturally but just…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2954262012-02-19T19:01:17.757ZEric Warwickhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/EricWarwick
<p>It happens naturally but just like in soil worms play a vital function, although it could be argued unneeded. This must be confusing, so just put the worms in. As to the type most people use red composting worms, or red wigglers.</p>
<p>It happens naturally but just like in soil worms play a vital function, although it could be argued unneeded. This must be confusing, so just put the worms in. As to the type most people use red composting worms, or red wigglers.</p> OK ... so the worms are for t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2952652012-02-19T18:58:42.422ZBob Ventohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BobVento
<p>OK ... so the worms are for the breakdown of fish waste that is being circulated in the water to the plants? Does that mean I need to introduce worms into my growing area medium or do these occur naturally? Are these earthworms or another kind of worm? I am planning on using the clay balls as a medium for plant growth.</p>
<p>Thanks again,</p>
<p>Bob<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Eric Warwick said:…</cite></p>
<p>OK ... so the worms are for the breakdown of fish waste that is being circulated in the water to the plants? Does that mean I need to introduce worms into my growing area medium or do these occur naturally? Are these earthworms or another kind of worm? I am planning on using the clay balls as a medium for plant growth.</p>
<p>Thanks again,</p>
<p>Bob<br/> <br/> <cite>Eric Warwick said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/happy-and-grateful-to-have-found-this-forum?page=1&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A295153&x=1#4778851Comment295153"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The worms are for breaking down solid fish waste. I don't think it would be for feeding fish though.</p>
<p>I'd say that you should not feed the plants to the fish, unless it's scraps. This is because of the laws of physics won't allow a system to keep mass ordered enough. Sorry no perpetual motion machine today.</p>
<p>Don't worry it took me several months <strong>sort of</strong> understand this. It can get confusing with older members blabbering away.<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/><br/> (well looks like Vlad beat me to it)<br/> <cite>Bob Vento said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/happy-and-grateful-to-have-found-this-forum?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A295305&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment295246"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>GOSH! Now I am reading about worms in systems? <br/><br/>Is this for feeding the fish or for the growth of vegetables? What do I feed the tilapia if that is my fish of choice? <br/><br/>Once the system is up and running, others have written that the fish feed the plants and the plants feed the fish <br/>with nothing else needed or added? <br/><br/>Does this sound right to you all who have experience with aquaponics?</p>
<p>Sorry for so many questions but it is confusing to a newbie.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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</blockquote> The worms are for breaking do…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2951532012-02-19T18:37:39.499ZEric Warwickhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/EricWarwick
<p>The worms are for breaking down solid fish waste. I don't think it would be for feeding fish though.</p>
<p>I'd say that you should not feed the plants to the fish, unless it's scraps. This is because of the laws of physics won't allow a system to keep mass ordered enough. Sorry no perpetual motion machine today.</p>
<p>Don't worry it took me several months <strong>sort of</strong> understand this. It can get confusing with older members blabbering away.<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"></img> <br></br> (well looks like…</p>
<p>The worms are for breaking down solid fish waste. I don't think it would be for feeding fish though.</p>
<p>I'd say that you should not feed the plants to the fish, unless it's scraps. This is because of the laws of physics won't allow a system to keep mass ordered enough. Sorry no perpetual motion machine today.</p>
<p>Don't worry it took me several months <strong>sort of</strong> understand this. It can get confusing with older members blabbering away.<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/><br/> (well looks like Vlad beat me to it)<br/> <cite>Bob Vento said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/happy-and-grateful-to-have-found-this-forum?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A295305&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment295246"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>GOSH! Now I am reading about worms in systems? <br/><br/>Is this for feeding the fish or for the growth of vegetables? What do I feed the tilapia if that is my fish of choice? <br/><br/>Once the system is up and running, others have written that the fish feed the plants and the plants feed the fish <br/>with nothing else needed or added? <br/><br/>Does this sound right to you all who have experience with aquaponics?</p>
<p>Sorry for so many questions but it is confusing to a newbie.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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</blockquote> Here you go Bob..... http://a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2953492012-02-19T18:31:57.569ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Here you go Bob..... <a href="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/worms-1?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A3088&page=1#comments">http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/worms-1?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A3088&page=1#comments</a> </p>
<p>Pay special attention to Converse when he chimes in on page 8 or 9. There are a gazzilion other threads on the topic. (Type 'worms' in the search field on the upper right hand corner of ever page on this site). Basically though, worms in the grow beds help…</p>
<p>Here you go Bob..... <a href="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/worms-1?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A3088&page=1#comments">http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/worms-1?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A3088&page=1#comments</a> </p>
<p>Pay special attention to Converse when he chimes in on page 8 or 9. There are a gazzilion other threads on the topic. (Type 'worms' in the search field on the upper right hand corner of ever page on this site). Basically though, worms in the grow beds help mineralize and break up solids (fish poo, uneaten food etc... and make the essential elements that are locked up in those solids plant available, and help keep your beds from clogging avoiding anaerobic zones)...</p>
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<p>I think you will be disappointed when reality steps in to 'do it's thing', as far as a self-perpetuating AP system (or ANY other such 'perpetual motion machine' fantasy that man has ever dreamt up. You will <em>need inputs from without the system</em>, whether that comes in the form of mass produced commercial fish feed, or energy that is expended elsewhere to produce a food source for your fish (home made feeds, a nutritionally <em>complete</em> feed, and not a 'snack' item like worms) is another question.</p>
<p>The other answer is... if you are <em>really </em>crafty and are not taking out <em>any</em> of the plants to consume yourself, and have a whole host of other organisms/animals working in the system, AND ALOT OF SPACE...you could with such a system get closer to that ideal...(but still no cigar) ...But that then would not be AP. More like bio-dynamic sustainable organic farming where AP is but one technique of the much larger and integrated whole. </p> GOSH! Now I am reading about…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2952462012-02-19T16:22:21.944ZBob Ventohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BobVento
<p>GOSH! Now I am reading about worms in systems? <br></br><br></br>Is this for feeding the fish or for the growth of vegetables? What do I feed the tilapia if that is my fish of choice? <br></br><br></br>Once the system is up and running, others have written that the fish feed the plants and the plants feed the fish <br></br>with nothing else needed or added? <br></br><br></br>Does this sound right to you all who have experience with aquaponics?</p>
<p>Sorry for so many questions but it is confusing to a…</p>
<p>GOSH! Now I am reading about worms in systems? <br/><br/>Is this for feeding the fish or for the growth of vegetables? What do I feed the tilapia if that is my fish of choice? <br/><br/>Once the system is up and running, others have written that the fish feed the plants and the plants feed the fish <br/>with nothing else needed or added? <br/><br/>Does this sound right to you all who have experience with aquaponics?</p>
<p>Sorry for so many questions but it is confusing to a newbie.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Bob</p>
<p></p> WOW Thanks for all of the use…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-19:4778851:Comment:2953052012-02-19T11:21:18.477ZBob Ventohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BobVento
<p>WOW Thanks for all of the useful info and links. Now my head hurts :-) I took someones advice and deleted my similar post to keep the confusion to a minimum.</p>
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<p>Thanks again and keep those comments coming.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
<p>WOW Thanks for all of the useful info and links. Now my head hurts :-) I took someones advice and deleted my similar post to keep the confusion to a minimum.</p>
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<p>Thanks again and keep those comments coming.</p>
<p>Bob</p>