Geyser Pumps - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T06:19:31Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/geyser-pumps?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A130103&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey this is something off top…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-06-24:4778851:Comment:6688972019-06-24T10:09:27.719Zaenna martinhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/aennamartin
<p>Hey this is something off topic but i need your help in regarding buying some power tools for my woodworking workshop, can anyone suggest me the best brands and tools for it as i am a beginner in this and doesn't have any knowledge about it so suggest me and help me into it.Also i have read this guide <a href="https://www.consumersbase.com/different-power-tools-list/">https://www.consumersbase.com/different-power-tools-list/</a> but couldn't able to find anything specific, so help me so that…</p>
<p>Hey this is something off topic but i need your help in regarding buying some power tools for my woodworking workshop, can anyone suggest me the best brands and tools for it as i am a beginner in this and doesn't have any knowledge about it so suggest me and help me into it.Also i have read this guide <a href="https://www.consumersbase.com/different-power-tools-list/">https://www.consumersbase.com/different-power-tools-list/</a> but couldn't able to find anything specific, so help me so that i can start my workshop.</p> There are several designs on…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2018-07-17:4778851:Comment:6536102018-07-17T04:41:12.372ZMichael Osmanhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MichaelOsman
<p>There are several designs on youtube. I'm just not sure what kind of air compressor to get... 270 gallon IBC system...I shouldn't need to big of one. But I'd like something that will last and be fairly energy efficient. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>I've just about finished building a "semi" passive solar greenhouse, now I'm re-building the aquaponic system.</p>
<p>I realize this is an older post...any guidance would help. thx.</p>
<p>There are several designs on youtube. I'm just not sure what kind of air compressor to get... 270 gallon IBC system...I shouldn't need to big of one. But I'd like something that will last and be fairly energy efficient. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>I've just about finished building a "semi" passive solar greenhouse, now I'm re-building the aquaponic system.</p>
<p>I realize this is an older post...any guidance would help. thx.</p> Have a look at this, there ar…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2016-09-27:4778851:Comment:6348892016-09-27T18:15:37.328ZDavidhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/David22
<p>Have a look at this, there are 3 parts and it was helpful to me.</p>
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<p>I lift about 40" high using a 1/2 gallon pitcher, 1-1/2" PVC and a 4 watt air pump. It moves about 7 gph to my 4 strawberry towers; 8-10 ounces almost twice a minute. The pump is in 36" deep water.</p>
<p>Have a look at this, there are 3 parts and it was helpful to me.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQqz8yR7sF8" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQqz8yR7sF8</a></p>
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<p>I lift about 40" high using a 1/2 gallon pitcher, 1-1/2" PVC and a 4 watt air pump. It moves about 7 gph to my 4 strawberry towers; 8-10 ounces almost twice a minute. The pump is in 36" deep water.</p> Hi, where can I find your vid…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2016-01-30:4778851:Comment:6226772016-01-30T06:07:28.387ZGiovanni Carlo P Bagayashttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GiovanniCarloPBagayas
<p>Hi, where can I find your video and design?</p>
<p>Hi, where can I find your video and design?</p> Hey Shawn et al,
Olomana Gar…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-04-24:4778851:Comment:5593552014-04-24T19:10:31.199ZJames Rubaschhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JamesRubasch
<p>Hey Shawn et al,</p>
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<p>Olomana Gardens (<a href="http://www.olomanagardens.com/moving-water-with-air/" target="_blank">www.olomanagardens.com/moving-water-with-air/</a>) has a nice website, and Glenn is becoming quite the expert on water geyser pumps. He has been able to move as much as 1000 gph of water with his air pumps. I need about 600 gph, and am currently using about 112 watts of power to run my water pump and aerator (I run a 950 gph pump with 42" height differential and a…</p>
<p>Hey Shawn et al,</p>
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<p>Olomana Gardens (<a href="http://www.olomanagardens.com/moving-water-with-air/" target="_blank">www.olomanagardens.com/moving-water-with-air/</a>) has a nice website, and Glenn is becoming quite the expert on water geyser pumps. He has been able to move as much as 1000 gph of water with his air pumps. I need about 600 gph, and am currently using about 112 watts of power to run my water pump and aerator (I run a 950 gph pump with 42" height differential and a 20 watt dual output aerator). Using the natural movement of the air upward fits perfectly with the needs of aquaponics hobbyists. I plan to renovate my system to run from an air pump rather than a water pump. I should be able to cut my power needs in half, which comes out to an annual savings of about $180 per year. Doesn't seem like much, but after 5 years that's close to a grand total! (we pay about 0.37/kwh for electricity).</p>
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<p>I hope more AP folks start looking into air pumps for their water movement. If you start your system that way, you will save money.</p>
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<p>Jim</p> Ryan,
Do you know where o…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-11:4778851:Comment:1302242011-06-11T14:54:45.700ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Ryan,</p>
<p> Do you know where one might find the info that would allow one to calculate how much air flow is needed and pipe size and all the different variables to lift a specific amount of water a given height per some time frame?</p>
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<p>Even the Aquatic Eco catalog has an airlift pump section but they don't have any sort of "pump curves" in relation to air flow or height. (All they give on the airlifts are a Cfm range of air flow for lifting water 4" above the surface but…</p>
<p>Ryan,</p>
<p> Do you know where one might find the info that would allow one to calculate how much air flow is needed and pipe size and all the different variables to lift a specific amount of water a given height per some time frame?</p>
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<p>Even the Aquatic Eco catalog has an airlift pump section but they don't have any sort of "pump curves" in relation to air flow or height. (All they give on the airlifts are a Cfm range of air flow for lifting water 4" above the surface but they don't say how much water would be lifted.) I've never found that info for geyser pumps either so I generally gave up. I have this thing that I'm unwilling to buy a pump unless there is a pump curve or info about how much water it lifts to different heights and how much power it uses.</p> The flow rate is correlated t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-11:4778851:Comment:1299772011-06-11T14:21:51.313ZRyan Chattersonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Ryan
The flow rate is correlated to the air flow rate, not really the amount of piping. Higher air flow, more pipe dumps per hour, higher flow. <br></br><br></br><cite>Ryan said:</cite><blockquote><div>A geyser pump is different from an air lift in that a small pump can move water much higher than any typical airlift. It works by storing the air in a bladder until it reaches near full capacity, then all the air is allowed to escape in one burst letting it lift the volume of water in the pipe to the…</div>
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The flow rate is correlated to the air flow rate, not really the amount of piping. Higher air flow, more pipe dumps per hour, higher flow. <br/><br/><cite>Ryan said:</cite><blockquote><div>A geyser pump is different from an air lift in that a small pump can move water much higher than any typical airlift. It works by storing the air in a bladder until it reaches near full capacity, then all the air is allowed to escape in one burst letting it lift the volume of water in the pipe to the outlet.then the process repeates. 6ft lift would be no problem at all and they move solids great. <br/><br/><cite>TCLynx said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The Huge advantage of airlift is exactly where David says, in lifting solids! Now most of our fish solids in AP are not all that solids and most water pumps will move them no problem as long as the intake grill of the pump does get blocked by other debris but there could be advantages to not blending up the solids with a regular pump but lifting them a tiny bit hole by an airlift so they will settle better in some form of solids removal system. The more blended up the solids are, the more likely they are to remain as suspended solids and be harder to remove from a system. Not that big a deal in a media based system but it can be more of a problem in NFT or Raft systems.</p>
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<p>So there is another very appropriate use for Airlift/geyser pumps, moving solids in a more intact manner to a solids removal system if you are using such a thing.</p>
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</blockquote> A geyser pump is different fr…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-11:4778851:Comment:1295902011-06-11T14:19:10.638ZRyan Chattersonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Ryan
A geyser pump is different from an air lift in that a small pump can move water much higher than any typical airlift. It works by storing the air in a bladder until it reaches near full capacity, then all the air is allowed to escape in one burst letting it lift the volume of water in the pipe to the outlet.then the process repeates. 6ft lift would be no problem at all and they move solids great. <br></br><br></br><cite>TCLynx said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The Huge advantage of airlift is exactly…</p>
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A geyser pump is different from an air lift in that a small pump can move water much higher than any typical airlift. It works by storing the air in a bladder until it reaches near full capacity, then all the air is allowed to escape in one burst letting it lift the volume of water in the pipe to the outlet.then the process repeates. 6ft lift would be no problem at all and they move solids great. <br/><br/><cite>TCLynx said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The Huge advantage of airlift is exactly where David says, in lifting solids! Now most of our fish solids in AP are not all that solids and most water pumps will move them no problem as long as the intake grill of the pump does get blocked by other debris but there could be advantages to not blending up the solids with a regular pump but lifting them a tiny bit hole by an airlift so they will settle better in some form of solids removal system. The more blended up the solids are, the more likely they are to remain as suspended solids and be harder to remove from a system. Not that big a deal in a media based system but it can be more of a problem in NFT or Raft systems.</p>
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<p>So there is another very appropriate use for Airlift/geyser pumps, moving solids in a more intact manner to a solids removal system if you are using such a thing.</p>
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<p>The Huge advantage of airlift is exactly where David says, in lifting solids! Now most of our fish solids in AP are not all that solids and most water pumps will move them no problem as long as the intake grill of the pump does get blocked by other debris but there could be advantages to not blending up the solids with a regular pump but lifting them a tiny bit hole by an airlift so they will settle better in some form of solids removal system. The more blended up the solids are, the more…</p>
<p>The Huge advantage of airlift is exactly where David says, in lifting solids! Now most of our fish solids in AP are not all that solids and most water pumps will move them no problem as long as the intake grill of the pump does get blocked by other debris but there could be advantages to not blending up the solids with a regular pump but lifting them a tiny bit hole by an airlift so they will settle better in some form of solids removal system. The more blended up the solids are, the more likely they are to remain as suspended solids and be harder to remove from a system. Not that big a deal in a media based system but it can be more of a problem in NFT or Raft systems.</p>
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<p>So there is another very appropriate use for Airlift/geyser pumps, moving solids in a more intact manner to a solids removal system if you are using such a thing.</p> Thought I would chirp in here…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-11:4778851:Comment:1295782011-06-11T04:12:26.781ZDavid Waitehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DavidWaite
Thought I would chirp in here. I have ran dredges both suction and air lifts all over the world. What creates lift is not water level but air flow through the pipe and pipe dia. The smaller the pump the smaller the pipe. We use solar air pumps to lift water 300 feet out of the ground to fill water troughs in the desert here no problem. The pipe is 3/8 inch and lifts a small amount all day when the sunshines. Whatever you pick for a air pump you will have to match pipe size to the air volume. It…
Thought I would chirp in here. I have ran dredges both suction and air lifts all over the world. What creates lift is not water level but air flow through the pipe and pipe dia. The smaller the pump the smaller the pipe. We use solar air pumps to lift water 300 feet out of the ground to fill water troughs in the desert here no problem. The pipe is 3/8 inch and lifts a small amount all day when the sunshines. Whatever you pick for a air pump you will have to match pipe size to the air volume. It will lift it 6 feet no problem. TC is correct in that you do need the pipe to be deep enough so the water and air rises vs blowing out the bottom. I have ran a air lift that had 150 scfm that ran a 10 inch dredge and we lifted rocks the size of volley balls from 150 foot deep to 150 foot above the ocean level. Air and water are very proficient together but TC is correct in that they dont match up to these new breed of pond pumps in water movement vs Watts.