Future (perhaps corporate) aquaponics - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T12:37:51Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/future-perhaps-corporate?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A49124&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell I know that there are pe…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-04-05:4778851:Comment:822032011-04-05T13:40:09.879ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Well I know that there are people on missions to bring aquaponics to third world villages, one of the bases of training happens to be here in Florida (Morningstar Fishermen) and Travis Hughey has done much to try to get low cost aquaponics into the had of people using materials that are hopefully relatively available in most places.</p>
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<p>In places where electricity isn't reliable and bringing in large amounts of batteries/solar panels/windmills etc isn't likely to work well. I've…</p>
<p>Well I know that there are people on missions to bring aquaponics to third world villages, one of the bases of training happens to be here in Florida (Morningstar Fishermen) and Travis Hughey has done much to try to get low cost aquaponics into the had of people using materials that are hopefully relatively available in most places.</p>
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<p>In places where electricity isn't reliable and bringing in large amounts of batteries/solar panels/windmills etc isn't likely to work well. I've suggested that in rural areas where many people actually already do some form of aquaculture, that they keep that up and teach them to use humanure composting and wicking beds to expand their food production capacity in a lower tech fashion while closing the nutrient loop.</p>
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<p>It really is a distrobution problem, Heck, there are obese people right here in the USA who are not even too poor to buy food, it's just that the food they are buying is so processed that they are malnourished! They are not under fed but so much of the nutrition has been stripped of the food in processing to extend it's shelf life that many people over eat because their bodies are craving things that they should be getting from food but they are not. </p>
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<p>And then in many of the countries where "aid" has been given, like in the form of falling food. Too many people become dependent on the hand outs and generations of traditional wisdom about how to grow/gather their own food has been lost and add to it, many people are now suffering from "western diseases" because of now eating a "western diet" so the people who have been given enough food or those who can afford the western diet are often now sick with things like heard disease, hypertension, diabetes, and an array of gastric troubles.</p>
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<p>Aquaponics which tends to lend it's self to growing lots of leafy greens and veggies instead of refined grain can go a long way to providing healthier food on a much more local scale.</p> That's what makes it so ironi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-04-05:4778851:Comment:821212011-04-05T05:28:21.091ZGreg Pettengillhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GregPettengill
<p>That's what makes it so ironic and tragic. It was almost 200 years ago that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Malthus</a> recognized and described the problem, but we haven't been able to avoid it so far.</p>
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<p>As far as agribusiness goes, I tend to view it as pretty much all tied up with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_Oil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Peak Oil</a>. Aquaponics appears to have some positive aspects that are…</p>
<p>That's what makes it so ironic and tragic. It was almost 200 years ago that <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthus" target="_blank">Malthus</a> recognized and described the problem, but we haven't been able to avoid it so far.</p>
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<p>As far as agribusiness goes, I tend to view it as pretty much all tied up with <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_Oil" target="_blank">Peak Oil</a>. Aquaponics appears to have some positive aspects that are likely to be of benefit to many people. But it is doubtful that it will have a significant impact, good, bad or otherwise on the problems of overpopulation and wealth distribution. The consensus seems to be that we will have to wait a long time before we see wide spread and/or large scale applications.</p> Yes I agree Greg. It is sad t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-04-05:4778851:Comment:821102011-04-05T00:19:59.972ZDavid Owenshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DavidOwens
Yes I agree Greg. It is sad that there is an abundance of food to go around and yet often people that live where the abundance of food is often still go to bed hungry. I guess I just hope that AP can help to reduce the prices and availability of vegetables and protein to the masses at large. It just seems that we should be able to focus on food production, distribution and environmental stewardship in this day and age and feed our population without harming this planet. It seems that in our oil…
Yes I agree Greg. It is sad that there is an abundance of food to go around and yet often people that live where the abundance of food is often still go to bed hungry. I guess I just hope that AP can help to reduce the prices and availability of vegetables and protein to the masses at large. It just seems that we should be able to focus on food production, distribution and environmental stewardship in this day and age and feed our population without harming this planet. It seems that in our oil based world we war over resources and I would hate to see water or food be the next reason for more madness. Hi David,
While I generaly…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-04-04:4778851:Comment:816752011-04-04T22:41:50.517ZGreg Pettengillhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GregPettengill
<p>Hi David,</p>
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<p>While I generaly agree with what you say, and specificly about "the future of AP is bright and shiny", I'm not sure that your inference that "the worlds population at large is underfed" because there is not enough food to go around is correct. The sad fact is that there is probably enough food to feed everyone if they could afford to buy it. I do not deny that there are food shortages, but the underlying reasons for them are far more economic…</p>
<p>Hi David,</p>
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<p>While I generaly agree with what you say, and specificly about "the future of AP is bright and shiny", I'm not sure that your inference that "the worlds population at large is underfed" because there is not enough food to go around is correct. The sad fact is that there is probably enough food to feed everyone if they could afford to buy it. I do not deny that there are food shortages, but the underlying reasons for them are far more economic ones.</p>
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<p>Best Regards</p>
<p>Greg Pettengill</p>
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<p><cite>David Owens said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/future-perhaps-corporate#4778851Comment48314"><div>I believe everyone is debating the point, only because no public records of commercially viable AP businesses have been available. It seems that AP is a fledgling industry full of practicing "craft" growers however it could become viable if we can bring experts from other profitable agriculture businesses together. Currently, there are profitable aquaculture, hydroponic, agriculture and marketing businesses out there as well as new technologies like LED and plasma horticulture lighting, green energy technologies and greenhouse geothermal heating. I believe that the future of AP is bright and shiny and should be approached as the challenge it is. We can all agree that oil is a limited resource and the worlds population at large is underfed. This is something that can be corrected by all of us AP enthusiasts by starting our own backyard systems and conducting experiments, sharing information and making leaps in AP science. Eventually, someone will figure out the ratios and numbers and become a role model for people to start successful commercial AP businesses. The future should be very interesting</div>
</blockquote> Hi Roger,
Great effort in you…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-25:4778851:Comment:503102011-02-25T00:40:59.883ZHarold Sukhbirhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HaroldSukhbir
<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>Great effort in your posting of this document. It gives a much more than a superficial table of cost/profit and can be used by anyone wondering if AP is indeed profitable. Looking at the document and Kobus's reply to you, i feel he's covered most concerns, but we should take into account that factors will always be endemic to locality. My costing is very simple and when you add the DIY aspect, locally available materials and other input cost(electricity,water,transport,…</p>
<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>Great effort in your posting of this document. It gives a much more than a superficial table of cost/profit and can be used by anyone wondering if AP is indeed profitable. Looking at the document and Kobus's reply to you, i feel he's covered most concerns, but we should take into account that factors will always be endemic to locality. My costing is very simple and when you add the DIY aspect, locally available materials and other input cost(electricity,water,transport, market prices etc.), and climate(In the tropics), even though the highest input being quality fish pellet, i calculate, in my personal case, about 30% more profit over this estimate.</p>
<p>However,thank you for sharing it as it is a good guide for anyone contemplating an APas pleasure/ business.</p> I took notice of the "lighter…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-24:4778851:Comment:501022011-02-24T16:43:01.812ZRoger Pilonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RogerPilon
<p>I took notice of the "lighter note". </p>
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<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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<p>Roger</p>
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<p>NOTE: I will wait for your review. Always more in 2 heads than one!</p>
<p><br></br> <cite>Harold Sukhbir said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/future-perhaps-corporate?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A50004&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment50004"><div>Hi Roger,<br></br> Great reference document for those considering the economics of AP…</div>
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<p>I took notice of the "lighter note". </p>
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<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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<p>Roger</p>
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<p>NOTE: I will wait for your review. Always more in 2 heads than one!</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Harold Sukhbir said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/future-perhaps-corporate?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A50004&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment50004"><div>Hi Roger,<br/> Great reference document for those considering the economics of AP business. While it may take me some time to review it(just skimmed through as I'm pressed these next few days), I see Kobus replied and from the looks of it in great detail.<br/>
On another lighter note, i see you make have given me the credit for Kobus's reply but I'd like to take the opportunity to remind you of the differences between Kobus and I. Well. he is more handsome(by far) and also possesses much more in the way of academic achievement than i am.(Hahahahaha!)</div>
</blockquote> Hi Roger,
Great reference doc…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-24:4778851:Comment:500042011-02-24T16:38:44.228ZHarold Sukhbirhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HaroldSukhbir
Hi Roger,<br />
Great reference document for those considering the economics of AP business. While it may take me some time to review it(just skimmed through as I'm pressed these next few days), I see Kobus replied and from the looks of it in great detail.<br />
On another lighter note, i see you make have given me the credit for Kobus's reply but I'd like to take the opportunity to remind you of the differences between Kobus and I. Well. he is more handsome(by far) and also possesses much more in the way…
Hi Roger,<br />
Great reference document for those considering the economics of AP business. While it may take me some time to review it(just skimmed through as I'm pressed these next few days), I see Kobus replied and from the looks of it in great detail.<br />
On another lighter note, i see you make have given me the credit for Kobus's reply but I'd like to take the opportunity to remind you of the differences between Kobus and I. Well. he is more handsome(by far) and also possesses much more in the way of academic achievement than i am.(Hahahahaha!) Thanks Harold.
I always lik…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-24:4778851:Comment:493942011-02-24T16:02:50.194ZRoger Pilonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RogerPilon
<p>Thanks Harold.</p>
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<p>I always like to see the 2 sides of a coin. Nice strait forward analysis by the way!</p>
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<p>Roger Pilon</p>
<p>Costa Rica Aquaponics</p>
<p>Thanks Harold.</p>
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<p>I always like to see the 2 sides of a coin. Nice strait forward analysis by the way!</p>
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<p>Roger Pilon</p>
<p>Costa Rica Aquaponics</p> While the question was not di…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-24:4778851:Comment:500012011-02-24T15:27:13.815ZKobus Joostehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KobusJooste
<p>While the question was not directed at me, I'd like to toss some thoughts out there:</p>
<p>1. There is no mention made in the costing of water chemistry balancing - pH or alkalinity. The cost is not enormous, but without it, the analysis is incomplete.</p>
<p>2. There is no explanation of how maintenance or replacement components are allocated. Pumps will not hold forever, and there need to be a factor allocated for this.</p>
<p>3. On the flip side, he uses seedlings as a cost. Most…</p>
<p>While the question was not directed at me, I'd like to toss some thoughts out there:</p>
<p>1. There is no mention made in the costing of water chemistry balancing - pH or alkalinity. The cost is not enormous, but without it, the analysis is incomplete.</p>
<p>2. There is no explanation of how maintenance or replacement components are allocated. Pumps will not hold forever, and there need to be a factor allocated for this.</p>
<p>3. On the flip side, he uses seedlings as a cost. Most people that germinate their own will have much lower costs, although again, he makes no provision for the equipment needed for this. If you let some of your crops set seed, you will have a very low plant seedling cost.</p>
<p>4. He has very low food costs per fish raised - lower than for me, and his market for the fish is a good rate.</p>
<p>5. A general price for the crops are given, without any indication on what crops this is based. For our work, we used PROVEN UVI and ALBERTA raft research results, and took the average yield. I am also not sure if he assumes that yield will be max all the time or not. </p>
<p>6. His structural costs does not seem to include greenhouse / insulation, while his power use have no Cap EX for heaters or running costs for heating. One has to consider this for areas outside of optimal water conditions.</p>
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<p>I think his arguments are fine for the area he is in, although the lack of detail on the costing of crop yield, the failure to include maintenance / replacement costs into annual expenses and the ideal operating conditions of his assumptions make it a difficult template for general use.<br/><br/><cite>Roger Pilon said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><p>Harold,</p>
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<p>I just stumbled on this document about Cost/Benefit Analysis of Aquaponic Systems</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/Travis/CostBenefitAnalysisofAquaponicSystems.pdf">http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/Travis/CostBenefitAnalysisofAquap...</a></p>
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<p>Could you tel me if it makes sense... or not?</p>
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<p>Roger Pilon,</p>
<p>Aquaponics Costa Rica<br/><br/></p>
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</blockquote> Harold,
I just stumbled on…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-02-24:4778851:Comment:494602011-02-24T14:07:02.222ZRoger Pilonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RogerPilon
<p>Harold,</p>
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<p>I just stumbled on this document about Cost/Benefit Analysis of Aquaponic Systems</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/Travis/CostBenefitAnalysisofAquaponicSystems.pdf">http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/Travis/CostBenefitAnalysisofAquaponicSystems.pdf</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Could you tel me if it makes sense... or not?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Roger Pilon,</p>
<p>Aquaponics Costa Rica<br></br> <br></br> <cite>RupertofOZ said:…</cite></p>
<p>Harold,</p>
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<p>I just stumbled on this document about Cost/Benefit Analysis of Aquaponic Systems</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/Travis/CostBenefitAnalysisofAquaponicSystems.pdf">http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/Travis/CostBenefitAnalysisofAquaponicSystems.pdf</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Could you tel me if it makes sense... or not?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Roger Pilon,</p>
<p>Aquaponics Costa Rica<br/> <br/>
<cite>RupertofOZ said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/future-perhaps-corporate#4778851Comment37758"><div><p>At the risk of sounding negative... I think we need a dose of realism...</p>
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<p><cite>Sylvia Bernstein said:</cite></p>
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<li><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"> "if aquaponics can be made into a profitable </font><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">business model" - I am certain that aquaponics can be made into a profitable model. If you take the need to heat water and use plant lights out of the equation - i.e. the UVI or Friendly AP situations - I think we already have profitable models. </font></span></li>
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Unfortunately I don't agree with you that either of those models can be considered "profitable models"<br/>
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The UVI systems were set up within, and with academic grants, and never seriously as a "commercial" operation... and limited to specific crop production<br/>
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I've heard increasing evidence regarding the Friendlies operation, that ranges from over-stated production claims... to abuses of workers through the "internship" program... bad hygene and operational maintenance... and over-stated financial figures..<br/>
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I've also heard of unpaid accounts and near insolvancy...<br/>
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<li><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"> While I agree with TC that it is hard to imagine people becoming rich from this, there are very profitable hydroponic lettuce growing operations out there so it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">might</span> be possible.</font></span></li>
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<p>Yes there are many profitable hydroponics operations in existance... but it took several decades before the necessary techniques were developed to make the "model" replicable and profitable... such that anyone with the desire and funding could reproduce a successful business...</p>
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<p>And there is a necessary scale for a successful "commercial" hydroponics business.... and a neccassary level of capital investment required... and sufficient investment capital availability...</p>
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<p>Similarly, it took a decade or more to develope an acceptance of hydroponics.... and grow the market to the point where it became "commercially" viable...</p>
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<p>Aquaponics is not yet at any of those points...</p>
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<li><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">" replace or c</font><span style="font-size: 1em; text-decoration: underline; xg-p: static;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">hange</font></span> "<font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">agrabusiness"". - I strongly believe that aquaponics will be a very important part of our global food future. I don't think it will ever replace agribusiness, nor do I think it will change it. What will change agribusiness is increased cost of fossil fuels due to peak oil, decreased availability of water, a less predictable climate, and oceans drained of fish. </font></span></font></span></li>
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<p>Aquaculture already produces nearly 45% of fish ... but the majority of the fish to market... is produced in countries with low land and labour costs... with near non-existant regulatory compliance requirements...</p>
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<p>All of the same costs and factors, that will impact on agri-business are in most cases, other than reduced water costs... just as applicable to aquaponics...</p>
<div style="margin-left: 2em;"><blockquote><ul>
<li><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">"will aquaponics be compatible with our modern world?" - Can't imagine why it wouldn't be compatible, but if not the modern world, certainly the future world...like tomorrow! It addresses every one of the serious problems that are causing our future food supply to be at risk. </font></span></font></span></li>
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<p>I'd like to think so... but frankly, while awareness is certainly growing rapidly... there's still not a wide spread acceptance or even knowledge about aquaponics throughout the world... at street level, or corporate level...</p>
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<li><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">"would it be better suited towards home use?"</font></span></font></span></li>
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<div style="margin-left: 2em;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><br/>Indeed ... it has complete relevance to home food production.. and the paradigm that goes with that</font></font></span></div>
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<div style="margin-left: 2em;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">But there's one thing that's almost always left out of all discussions relating to commercialising aquaponics...</font></font></span></font></font></span></font></span></div>
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<div style="margin-left: 2em;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">The need to incorporate proper Food Safety and other regulatory compliance issues... even if they don't exist, or aren't currently enforced...</font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></div>
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<div style="margin-left: 2em;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">Aquaponic "businesses" might get away without doing so for as long as it remains a "boutique" farmers market style operation... but heaven help the day when someone falls ill with food poisoning...</font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></div>
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<div style="margin-left: 2em;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><span style="color: #555555; font-size: 16px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;"><font face="'times new roman', times" style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px; font-size: 1em; xg-p: static; padding: 0px;">The aquaponics "industry" will suddenly become regulated into near non-existance... especially if it has gained a commercial foothold that begins to infringe on traditional producers and/or markets...</font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></div>
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