Fishless Cycling - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T06:58:07Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A501621&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you Alex! I just added…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5020352013-08-07T18:12:06.271Zsherrie p cockramhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/sherriepcockram
<p>Thank you Alex! I just added 1 TBS. Will post results as I test later! sherrie<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A502222&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment502222"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ma'am, one freaking tablespoon at a time. Can't stress that enough. I just picked up a phrase today courtesy of "Tradewind" here on the forum: measure by…</p>
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<p>Thank you Alex! I just added 1 TBS. Will post results as I test later! sherrie<br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A502222&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment502222"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ma'am, one freaking tablespoon at a time. Can't stress that enough. I just picked up a phrase today courtesy of "Tradewind" here on the forum: measure by the cap, not the cup<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></p>
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<p>Go ahead and add one tablespoon of ammonia, let it run through your system for a couple hours and test your water. Keep adding until you get to 4ppm and keep the levels there. If it goes above that, stop adding ammonia.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment502028"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>My ammonia level is .50 ppm and of course nitrites are 0. I have a 300 gallon fish tank and between the fish tank the 2 media beds and the 2 floating raft beds and 2 sump tanks the system holds 800 gallons of water. I need to raise the ammonia level don't I? How much ammonia should I ad?</p>
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</blockquote> Ma'am, one freaking tablespoo…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5022222013-08-07T17:37:23.006ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Ma'am, one freaking tablespoon at a time. Can't stress that enough. I just picked up a phrase today courtesy of "Tradewind" here on the forum: measure by the cap, not the cup :)</p>
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<p>Go ahead and add one tablespoon of ammonia, let it run through your system for a couple hours and test your water. Keep adding until you get to 4ppm and keep the levels there. If it goes above that, stop adding ammonia.</p>
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<p>Ma'am, one freaking tablespoon at a time. Can't stress that enough. I just picked up a phrase today courtesy of "Tradewind" here on the forum: measure by the cap, not the cup :)</p>
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<p>Go ahead and add one tablespoon of ammonia, let it run through your system for a couple hours and test your water. Keep adding until you get to 4ppm and keep the levels there. If it goes above that, stop adding ammonia.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment502028"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>My ammonia level is .50 ppm and of course nitrites are 0. I have a 300 gallon fish tank and between the fish tank the 2 media beds and the 2 floating raft beds and 2 sump tanks the system holds 800 gallons of water. I need to raise the ammonia level don't I? How much ammonia should I ad?</p>
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</blockquote> If you want to give your tank…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5022212013-08-07T17:32:46.003ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>If you want to give your tank a jumpstart, personally, I would recommend you go with Aquacycle. I've never used it myself, but as far as I am aware, The Aquaponic Source doesn't create products that don't do their job well. I highly doubt it's your typical commercialized "jar o' bacteria" that's been sitting on shelf for weeks and weeks, which is what Keith was referring to.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>sherrie p cockram said:…</cite></p>
<p>If you want to give your tank a jumpstart, personally, I would recommend you go with Aquacycle. I've never used it myself, but as far as I am aware, The Aquaponic Source doesn't create products that don't do their job well. I highly doubt it's your typical commercialized "jar o' bacteria" that's been sitting on shelf for weeks and weeks, which is what Keith was referring to.<br/> <br/> <cite>sherrie p cockram said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment502024"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>what do you suggest for cycling then? just wait it out? I've waited this long so another couple of months maybe? sherrie<br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A501899&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment501899"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Good point about shelf life. I guess the real question would be: "Are the Aquacycle kits stored on the shelf and for how long?"...Sylvia?<br/> <br/> <cite>Keith Rowan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment501789"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i'd be leary of "nite out" just from reading these two lines on the msds</p>
<p>Bioaccumulative potential: Not Likely</p>
<p>Aquatic Toxicity: Not Known</p>
<p>unfortunately, most "bacteria in a bottle" are bunk..the bacteria has no shelf life to speak of and would need aeration to live "in the bottle"... i've worked with a pond owner that purchased "bottled bacteria" (very expensive)... but these must be shipped overnight and used immediately..</p>
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<p>most "aquaria" products are not meant for systems where you would eat either the plants or fish</p>
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</blockquote> My ammonia level is .50 ppm a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5020282013-08-07T17:27:23.390Zsherrie p cockramhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/sherriepcockram
<p>My ammonia level is .50 ppm and of course nitrites are 0. I have a 300 gallon fish tank and between the fish tank the 2 media beds and the 2 floating raft beds and 2 sump tanks the system holds 800 gallons of water. I need to raise the ammonia level don't I? How much ammonia should I ad?</p>
<p>My ammonia level is .50 ppm and of course nitrites are 0. I have a 300 gallon fish tank and between the fish tank the 2 media beds and the 2 floating raft beds and 2 sump tanks the system holds 800 gallons of water. I need to raise the ammonia level don't I? How much ammonia should I ad?</p> what do you suggest for cycli…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5020242013-08-07T17:18:18.592Zsherrie p cockramhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/sherriepcockram
<p>what do you suggest for cycling then? just wait it out? I've waited this long so another couple of months maybe? sherrie<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A501899&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment501899"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Good point about shelf life. I guess the real question would be: "Are the Aquacycle kits stored on the shelf and…</p>
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<p>what do you suggest for cycling then? just wait it out? I've waited this long so another couple of months maybe? sherrie<br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A501899&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment501899"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Good point about shelf life. I guess the real question would be: "Are the Aquacycle kits stored on the shelf and for how long?"...Sylvia?<br/> <br/> <cite>Keith Rowan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment501789"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i'd be leary of "nite out" just from reading these two lines on the msds</p>
<p>Bioaccumulative potential: Not Likely</p>
<p>Aquatic Toxicity: Not Known</p>
<p>unfortunately, most "bacteria in a bottle" are bunk..the bacteria has no shelf life to speak of and would need aeration to live "in the bottle"... i've worked with a pond owner that purchased "bottled bacteria" (very expensive)... but these must be shipped overnight and used immediately..</p>
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<p>most "aquaria" products are not meant for systems where you would eat either the plants or fish</p>
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</blockquote> Good point about shelf life.…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5018992013-08-07T15:20:22.367ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Good point about shelf life. I guess the real question would be: "Are the Aquacycle kits stored on the shelf and for how long?"...Sylvia?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Keith Rowan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment501789"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i'd be leary of "nite out" just from reading these two lines on the msds</p>
<p>Bioaccumulative potential: Not Likely</p>
<p>Aquatic Toxicity: Not…</p>
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<p>Good point about shelf life. I guess the real question would be: "Are the Aquacycle kits stored on the shelf and for how long?"...Sylvia?<br/> <br/> <cite>Keith Rowan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment501789"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i'd be leary of "nite out" just from reading these two lines on the msds</p>
<p>Bioaccumulative potential: Not Likely</p>
<p>Aquatic Toxicity: Not Known</p>
<p>unfortunately, most "bacteria in a bottle" are bunk..the bacteria has no shelf life to speak of and would need aeration to live "in the bottle"... i've worked with a pond owner that purchased "bottled bacteria" (very expensive)... but these must be shipped overnight and used immediately..</p>
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<p>most "aquaria" products are not meant for systems where you would eat either the plants or fish</p>
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</blockquote> well, i have already spent to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5018862013-08-07T13:19:04.471Zsherrie p cockramhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/sherriepcockram
<p>well, i have already spent too much money on the system and the startup instructions( a joke from the company i bought from) i will just wait it out now...my gtow is strictly indoors and i will make it work. thanks for all your help! sherrie</p>
<p>well, i have already spent too much money on the system and the startup instructions( a joke from the company i bought from) i will just wait it out now...my gtow is strictly indoors and i will make it work. thanks for all your help! sherrie</p> i'd be leary of "nite out" ju…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-07:4778851:Comment:5017892013-08-07T13:14:35.191ZKeith Rowanhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KeithRowan
<p>i'd be leary of "nite out" just from reading these two lines on the msds</p>
<p>Bioaccumulative potential: Not Likely</p>
<p>Aquatic Toxicity: Not Known</p>
<p>unfortunately, most "bacteria in a bottle" are bunk..the bacteria has no shelf life to speak of and would need aeration to live "in the bottle"... i've worked with a pond owner that purchased "bottled bacteria" (very expensive)... but these must be shipped overnight and used immediately..</p>
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<p>most "aquaria" products are…</p>
<p>i'd be leary of "nite out" just from reading these two lines on the msds</p>
<p>Bioaccumulative potential: Not Likely</p>
<p>Aquatic Toxicity: Not Known</p>
<p>unfortunately, most "bacteria in a bottle" are bunk..the bacteria has no shelf life to speak of and would need aeration to live "in the bottle"... i've worked with a pond owner that purchased "bottled bacteria" (very expensive)... but these must be shipped overnight and used immediately..</p>
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<p>most "aquaria" products are not meant for systems where you would eat either the plants or fish</p> I used Nite out several times…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-06:4778851:Comment:5015972013-08-06T20:30:51.363Zsherrie p cockramhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/sherriepcockram
<p>I used Nite out several times...</p>
<p>I used Nite out several times...</p> And Keith, a bottle of ammoni…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-06:4778851:Comment:5015962013-08-06T20:27:48.362ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>And Keith, a bottle of ammonia and a cycling kit are not the same thing. A cycling kit gives you a jumpstart in bacteria population by providing an actual bottle of nitrifying bacteria. The Aquacycle kit comes with a few other things as well, like powdered ammonia and powdered seaweed. Now, you're right in saying that it's not completely necessary, but just using ammonia won't get your system to cycle faster. You would need to get a hold of cycling bacteria from somewhere else, like using…</p>
<p>And Keith, a bottle of ammonia and a cycling kit are not the same thing. A cycling kit gives you a jumpstart in bacteria population by providing an actual bottle of nitrifying bacteria. The Aquacycle kit comes with a few other things as well, like powdered ammonia and powdered seaweed. Now, you're right in saying that it's not completely necessary, but just using ammonia won't get your system to cycle faster. You would need to get a hold of cycling bacteria from somewhere else, like using water or media from someone else's already cycled system.<br/> <br/> <cite>Keith Rowan said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fishless-cycling-2#4778851Comment501400"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>with fresh water, i don't think you'll be cycled in 3 weeks.. don't waste your money on the "fishless cycling kit", you can get a quart of "pure" ammonia (with no surfectants or aroma - shake the bottle, if it foams it's no good) for a dollar..</p>
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