fish tank water is not circulating fast - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T23:30:16Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/fish-tank-water-is-not-circulating-fast?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A601979&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPermalink Reply by Moe 3 sec…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-05-06:4778851:Comment:6053062015-05-06T06:04:12.170ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have a question, does the fish tank water level and the swirl tank water level need to be the same? the reason I am asking is because I have the outlet from the swirl tank to the sumb tank at the same level as the water level in the fish tank, may be higher !!! by a 1 cm or so. I am thinking that this might be the cause that water is not flowing in or out of the swirl filter as fast. I searched a alot but I do not see any reference to this. Any advice would be highly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fish-tank-water-is-not-circulating-fast?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A605037#4778851Comment603224"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey Moe, read all the comments and the only advice I have is "Plumbing 101, sh.. Crap runs downhill. This can't be anything that complicated. Think like water and follow the path. Your pipes sound totally adequate for a system your size. My 2500g system runs 1 1/4" from 5 full size IBC FTs into a 15g swirl and from there to the GH side and 5 IBC GBs and I have never had a problem. Are u sure a fingerling didn't get stuck in there? You MUST do a slotted pipe inlet to keep the fish out.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772264240?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772264240?profile=original" width="694"/></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730445441?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730445441?profile=original" width="639"/></a>Only make your slots 1/4" wide to avoid clogs. This is a very old pic. More here on this and a lot more:<a href="https://youtu.be/ljP-99aqwI4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ljP-99aqwI4</a></p>
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I have a question, does t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-05-06:4778851:Comment:6050372015-05-06T06:03:19.779ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have a question, does the fish tank water level and the swirl tank water level need to be the same? the reason I am asking is because I have the outlet from the swirl tank to the sumb tank at the same level as the water level in the fish tank, may be higher !!! by a 1 cm or so. I am thinking that this might be the cause that water is not flowing in or out of the swirl filter as fast. I searched a alot but I do not see any reference to this. Any advice would be highly…</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have a question, does the fish tank water level and the swirl tank water level need to be the same? the reason I am asking is because I have the outlet from the swirl tank to the sumb tank at the same level as the water level in the fish tank, may be higher !!! by a 1 cm or so. I am thinking that this might be the cause that water is not flowing in or out of the swirl filter as fast. I searched a alot but I do not see any reference to this. Any advice would be highly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p> </p> Hi Jim,
well, I made a pipe…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-05-03:4778851:Comment:6048342015-05-03T07:35:24.621ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
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<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>well, I made a pipe like the one you recommended. however, I have the slits on the top, not on the bottom. when I had them on the bottom, it was slow. now, the tank cycles every 2hours instead of 3 hours. That is good improvement. I also did not add the bubble generation stones</p>
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<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>well, I made a pipe like the one you recommended. however, I have the slits on the top, not on the bottom. when I had them on the bottom, it was slow. now, the tank cycles every 2hours instead of 3 hours. That is good improvement. I also did not add the bubble generation stones</p>
<p> <a href="http://undefined" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="undefined"/></a></p> Hi Jim,i watched the whole on…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-19:4778851:Comment:6033942015-04-19T17:04:19.189ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
<p>Hi Jim,i watched the whole one hour of the video. Very impressive. it is so nice that you documented it with photos. it is a great idea. the transformation of the landscape is awesome. Now, back to my issue. now, I need to get to the system and try the SLO method you have above. May be it will help. I will let you know. also, the swirl tank I have, the water is hardly swirling and I started to get mosquitos on the top. I will post more when I have something to contribute. thanks</p>
<p>Hi Jim,i watched the whole one hour of the video. Very impressive. it is so nice that you documented it with photos. it is a great idea. the transformation of the landscape is awesome. Now, back to my issue. now, I need to get to the system and try the SLO method you have above. May be it will help. I will let you know. also, the swirl tank I have, the water is hardly swirling and I started to get mosquitos on the top. I will post more when I have something to contribute. thanks</p> Hey Moe, read all the comment…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-16:4778851:Comment:6032242015-04-16T16:58:35.850ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Hey Moe, read all the comments and the only advice I have is "Plumbing 101, sh.. Crap runs downhill. This can't be anything that complicated. Think like water and follow the path. Your pipes sound totally adequate for a system your size. My 2500g system runs 1 1/4" from 5 full size IBC FTs into a 15g swirl and from there to the GH side and 5 IBC GBs and I have never had a problem. Are u sure a fingerling didn't get stuck in there? You MUST do a slotted pipe inlet to keep the fish out.…</p>
<p>Hey Moe, read all the comments and the only advice I have is "Plumbing 101, sh.. Crap runs downhill. This can't be anything that complicated. Think like water and follow the path. Your pipes sound totally adequate for a system your size. My 2500g system runs 1 1/4" from 5 full size IBC FTs into a 15g swirl and from there to the GH side and 5 IBC GBs and I have never had a problem. Are u sure a fingerling didn't get stuck in there? You MUST do a slotted pipe inlet to keep the fish out.<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772264240?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772264240?profile=original" width="694"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730445441?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2730445441?profile=original" width="639"/></a>Only make your slots 1/4" wide to avoid clogs. This is a very old pic. More here on this and a lot more:<a href="https://youtu.be/ljP-99aqwI4" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ljP-99aqwI4</a></p> About 10 years ago my friend…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-15:4778851:Comment:6031372015-04-15T15:11:56.621ZPhilippe Pauverthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PhilippePauvert
<p>About 10 years ago my friend Gary made up my mind. <a href="http://www.microponics.net.au/microponics/aquaponics_aquaculture/7-good-reasons-to-remove-solid-wastes/" target="_blank">Solids in GBs or Not, that´s the question.</a></p>
<p>Furthermore since last year I get the solids OUT OF THE SYSTEM asap by means of dual drum filters for both settable and fine solids with 200 and 53 microns meshes. They are almost of my conception and are very cheap.</p>
<p>I also put crayfishes that will eat…</p>
<p>About 10 years ago my friend Gary made up my mind. <a href="http://www.microponics.net.au/microponics/aquaponics_aquaculture/7-good-reasons-to-remove-solid-wastes/" target="_blank">Solids in GBs or Not, that´s the question.</a></p>
<p>Furthermore since last year I get the solids OUT OF THE SYSTEM asap by means of dual drum filters for both settable and fine solids with 200 and 53 microns meshes. They are almost of my conception and are very cheap.</p>
<p>I also put crayfishes that will eat about everything left over by the Tilapias. There was some concern about the tilapia´s eggs but fry keeps blooming.</p>
<p>The main reason I decided to remove them a this time was for the oxygen consumption as I was working at very high altitudes, above 12 000" </p> Yes it has a "T" on the SLO,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-15:4778851:Comment:6033222015-04-15T14:54:17.383ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
Yes it has a "T" on the SLO, I don't use "90's" I double up "45's" because a hard turn causes slow down of your flow unless it drops a lot. From my tank to my GB the distance is about 5', so I get a little back pressure because it drops about 6".<br />
It goes directly Into my GB's. I have about 300 red worms in each GB to help eat the poo. I also have crawfish in the Sump tanks to eat the excess food that the fish don't eat. I had a swirl that I added to the system, everything seemed to slow so I…
Yes it has a "T" on the SLO, I don't use "90's" I double up "45's" because a hard turn causes slow down of your flow unless it drops a lot. From my tank to my GB the distance is about 5', so I get a little back pressure because it drops about 6".<br />
It goes directly Into my GB's. I have about 300 red worms in each GB to help eat the poo. I also have crawfish in the Sump tanks to eat the excess food that the fish don't eat. I had a swirl that I added to the system, everything seemed to slow so I removed it and am running it with out a swirl.<br/>
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<cite>Moe said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/fish-tank-water-is-not-circulating-fast?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A603321&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment603313"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">How is the outlet is set? Is it an over flow with a T?<br/> If you go directly from the Ft to the GB, what happens to the fish poop?</div>
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</blockquote> So say you have a high stocki…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-15:4778851:Comment:6033212015-04-15T13:31:18.276ZPhilippe Pauverthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PhilippePauvert
<p>So say you have a high stocking of 8 kg in your FT your feeding by 2% will be 160 grams delivering some <strong>48 gr of settable solids</strong>....per day</p>
<p>I´m not sure you need a swirl filter with all the pros and cons it brings. Put some mesh in a basket at the exit of the over flow without slowing the said flow. And use your swirl for more fishes</p>
<p>In small system an old sock is useful. There is no real benefit to let the solids go into the GBs, even if you have red…</p>
<p>So say you have a high stocking of 8 kg in your FT your feeding by 2% will be 160 grams delivering some <strong>48 gr of settable solids</strong>....per day</p>
<p>I´m not sure you need a swirl filter with all the pros and cons it brings. Put some mesh in a basket at the exit of the over flow without slowing the said flow. And use your swirl for more fishes</p>
<p>In small system an old sock is useful. There is no real benefit to let the solids go into the GBs, even if you have red Californians.</p>
<p>About the turnover frequency. I personally have 2 per hour just during the cycling with fishes. After that 1 per hour is enough for the filtrations. You may consider an air pump for the aeration to cut down all this expensive pumping.</p>
<p>When you come back from the sump to the FT put some spray bars or any aerating device to keep aerating and degasing.</p> How is the outlet is set? Is…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-15:4778851:Comment:6033132015-04-15T04:54:20.699ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
How is the outlet is set? Is it an over flow with a T?<br />
If you go directly from the Ft to the GB, what happens to the fish poop?
How is the outlet is set? Is it an over flow with a T?<br />
If you go directly from the Ft to the GB, what happens to the fish poop? I have a 250g FT and I cycle…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-04-15:4778851:Comment:6031282015-04-15T03:34:47.963ZMikeHhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Mike82
I have a 250g FT and I cycle the FT 2x p hr. I push 500 G through it." Each hr.<br />
I have 2" outlet which feeds directly into 5 GB.
I have a 250g FT and I cycle the FT 2x p hr. I push 500 G through it." Each hr.<br />
I have 2" outlet which feeds directly into 5 GB.