E-mail from DFG regarding Tilapia in NORCAL. - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T14:48:50Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/e-mail-from-dfg-regarding-tilapia-in-norcal?groupUrl=californiaaquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A283409&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A3943&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYep. Sacramento perch fry sho…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-05-23:4778851:Comment:4782682013-05-23T13:07:06.246ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
Yep. Sacramento perch fry should be ready in a couple weeks. They are about an inch long right now, and getting stronger fast.
Yep. Sacramento perch fry should be ready in a couple weeks. They are about an inch long right now, and getting stronger fast. Hey Jon- Any update on the Pe…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-05-22:4778851:Comment:4782212013-05-22T22:38:03.009ZJessica Johnsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JessicaM
<p>Hey Jon- Any update on the Perch?</p>
<p>Hey Jon- Any update on the Perch?</p> Your welcome, all. I'll keep…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-24:4778851:Comment:2974502012-02-24T06:25:59.193ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
Your welcome, all. I'll keep you posted on the Sac Perch, hope to have a spawn in a month or two.
Your welcome, all. I'll keep you posted on the Sac Perch, hope to have a spawn in a month or two. Great topic and thanks for th…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-24:4778851:Comment:2974292012-02-24T04:18:43.959Zrnbowarriorhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/rnbowarrior
Great topic and thanks for the responses. Jon pleasure speaking to you.
Great topic and thanks for the responses. Jon pleasure speaking to you. Jon,
I'm definitely intereste…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-04:4778851:Comment:2879682012-02-04T07:08:52.348ZTom Cooleyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TomCooley
<p>Jon,</p>
<p>I'm definitely interested in learning more about Sacramento perch; I've been reading up on them and think they may be suitable for a project I have in mind.</p>
<p>Jon,</p>
<p>I'm definitely interested in learning more about Sacramento perch; I've been reading up on them and think they may be suitable for a project I have in mind.</p> Thanks Jon.tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-25:4778851:Comment:2834092012-01-25T07:26:56.648ZPaul Trudeauhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PaulTrudeau
<p>Thanks Jon.</p>
<p>Thanks Jon.</p> sure:
---------- Forwarded…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-25:4778851:Comment:2834052012-01-25T06:37:45.187ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
<p>sure:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></br>From: George Neillands <<a href="mailto:GNeillands@dfg.ca.gov">GNeillands@dfg.ca.gov</a>><br></br>To: Debbie Hultman <<a href="mailto:DHULTMAN@dfg.ca.gov">DHULTMAN@dfg.ca.gov</a>>, Director <<a href="mailto:DIRECTOR@dfg.ca.gov">DIRECTOR@dfg.ca.gov</a>><br></br>Cc: Carl Wilcox <<a href="mailto:CWilcox@dfg.ca.gov">CWilcox@dfg.ca.gov</a>><br></br>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:52:06 -0700<br></br>Subject: Re: Fwd: Tilapia and…</p>
<p>sure:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br/>From: George Neillands <<a href="mailto:GNeillands@dfg.ca.gov">GNeillands@dfg.ca.gov</a>><br/>To: Debbie Hultman <<a href="mailto:DHULTMAN@dfg.ca.gov">DHULTMAN@dfg.ca.gov</a>>, Director <<a href="mailto:DIRECTOR@dfg.ca.gov">DIRECTOR@dfg.ca.gov</a>><br/>Cc: Carl Wilcox <<a href="mailto:CWilcox@dfg.ca.gov">CWilcox@dfg.ca.gov</a>><br/>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:52:06 -0700<br/>Subject: Re: Fwd: Tilapia and jade perch<br/>Hi Jon:<br/>Michelle Leicester is my District Fisheries Biologist for your area.<br/>She is correct in following the Regional Policy of keeping tilapia out<br/>of our region.</p>
<p>Current Regulations: In the Title 14 section 671, four species of<br/>tilapia are restricted: Tilapia sparrmani, Tilapia zillii, Tilapia aurea<br/>(as called Orechromis aureus), and Tilapia nilotica (as called<br/>Orechromis niloticus). Only T. zillii can be imported, transported and<br/>possessed in San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego<br/>and Imperial counties. There are no other restrictions or regulations<br/>for tilapia.</p>
<p>The Colorado River and the Salton Sea have resident tilapia<br/>populations. These populations no longer are of single species but have<br/>quickly hybridized into one single population of random mating hybrids,<br/>which indicates how adaptable this species really is. Tilapia are<br/>present in areas with connections to these water bodies. Since, tilapia<br/>are present in southern California waters, the Department has allowed<br/>tilapia to be reared and possessed in counties south of the Tehachapi<br/>Mountain range. Due to the wide biological tolerances of tilapia<br/>species, the Department has not allowed any tilapia species in northern<br/>California.</p>
<p>Current regulations lack sufficient detail to support the<br/>Department’s intention to maintain tilapia in southern California.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>(NOTE: I cut out a lengthy recommended new proposal spelling out a southern Cal tilapia allowed area by county, and an unrelated answer to importing jade perch. --Jon)</p>
<p><br/>George Neillands<br/>Senior Fisheries Biologist<br/>Bay-Delta Region<br/>P. O. Box 47<br/>Yountville, CA 94599<br/>7329 Silverado Trail<br/>Office: (707) 944-5525<br/>Fax: (707) 944-5563<br/>cell: (707) 307-3794<br/><a href="mailto:gneillands@dfg.ca.gov">gneillands@dfg.ca.gov</a></p>
<p>"FLEX YOUR POWER"</p> Hey Jon,
Getting some sort of…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-24:4778851:Comment:2829912012-01-24T22:48:50.098ZPaul Trudeauhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/PaulTrudeau
<p>Hey Jon,</p>
<p>Getting some sort of clarity re: California regulations as they apply to aquaponics is one interest of mine (though not nearly as fun to pursue as hands-on aquaponics stuff, of course!). Can you post your letter from G. Neillands on this forum Jon, or email me a copy (joezbro@gmail.com)? Thanks. </p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jon Parr said:…</cite></p>
<p>Hey Jon,</p>
<p>Getting some sort of clarity re: California regulations as they apply to aquaponics is one interest of mine (though not nearly as fun to pursue as hands-on aquaponics stuff, of course!). Can you post your letter from G. Neillands on this forum Jon, or email me a copy (joezbro@gmail.com)? Thanks. </p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jon Parr said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/e-mail-from-dfg-regarding-tilapia-in-norcal?groupUrl=californiaaquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A283047&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment283047"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Good luck, Steve. Common sense is not a qualifying trait at DFG. Tell them you have a way that they can pull in some bribe money, and you will get the position for sure.<br/> <br/> Chi, I have a simlar letter from George Neillands, and he acknowledges that tilapia ARE legal, and there is no law to support DFG's anti-tilapia policy. Any DFG staff that says they are illegal is lying, and any threat of fines or repercussions is harassment and fraudulent. They work for us, don't let them play god, bastards. Did that sound bitter? They do however have jurisdiction to deny any aquaculture permit on a whim, so don't go planning anything commercial.<br/> <br/> On a side note, I have Cali native Sac Perch and Sac Blackfish, if anyone is interested. Very excited about the perch, they are cali's only native sunfish, and were everywhere in Cali freshwater before bluegill were introduced.</div>
</div>
</blockquote> Good luck, Steve. Common sens…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-24:4778851:Comment:2830472012-01-24T22:39:23.353ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
Good luck, Steve. Common sense is not a qualifying trait at DFG. Tell them you have a way that they can pull in some bribe money, and you will get the position for sure.<br />
<br />
Chi, I have a simlar letter from George Neillands, and he acknowledges that tilapia ARE legal, and there is no law to support DFG's anti-tilapia policy. Any DFG staff that says they are illegal is lying, and any threat of fines or repercussions is harassment and fraudulent. They work for us, don't let them play god, bastards.…
Good luck, Steve. Common sense is not a qualifying trait at DFG. Tell them you have a way that they can pull in some bribe money, and you will get the position for sure.<br />
<br />
Chi, I have a simlar letter from George Neillands, and he acknowledges that tilapia ARE legal, and there is no law to support DFG's anti-tilapia policy. Any DFG staff that says they are illegal is lying, and any threat of fines or repercussions is harassment and fraudulent. They work for us, don't let them play god, bastards. Did that sound bitter? They do however have jurisdiction to deny any aquaculture permit on a whim, so don't go planning anything commercial.<br />
<br />
On a side note, I have Cali native Sac Perch and Sac Blackfish, if anyone is interested. Very excited about the perch, they are cali's only native sunfish, and were everywhere in Cali freshwater before bluegill were introduced. Hi, I called the DFG today an…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-01-13:4778851:Comment:2772282012-01-13T05:54:47.204ZSteve Olsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SteveOlson
<p>Hi, I called the DFG today and inquired about the <span>Inland Aquaculture Coordinator position. I was hoping to get in and enable aquaponics, but they did not seem like they knew what they were doing, just spending our taxes.</span></p>
<p>Hi, I called the DFG today and inquired about the <span>Inland Aquaculture Coordinator position. I was hoping to get in and enable aquaponics, but they did not seem like they knew what they were doing, just spending our taxes.</span></p>