depth of IBC Grow Bed - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T11:23:58Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A583359&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThey're tears of joy Alex...t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-31:4778851:Comment:5845542014-10-31T14:37:34.037ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>They're tears of joy Alex...tears of joy...<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?page=2&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A584660&x=1#4778851Comment584660"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>'Weep holes'? That makes it sound like your aquaponic system is always crying....Timer based systems have suddenly become depressing :*(</p>
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<p>They're tears of joy Alex...tears of joy...<br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?page=2&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A584660&x=1#4778851Comment584660"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>'Weep holes'? That makes it sound like your aquaponic system is always crying....Timer based systems have suddenly become depressing :*(</p>
<p><cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=2#4778851Comment584317"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Your drain time will be determined by the size of the 'weep holes' that you drill in the bottom of your stand pipe. If 30 minutes is too long, go to the garage and grab a larger diameter drill bit <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></p>
<p>My beds fill in about 9 minutes (the fill time is determined by the size of your pump. I have a ball valve plumbed into the outlet side of my pump so that I can adjust (slow down, or speed up) the fill time. The "extra" water coming out of the ball valve just dumps right back into my fish tank...while the water from the grow bed(s) drains via gravity into my sump.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?x=1&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=1#4778851Comment583196"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Vlad,</p>
<p>Thank you for your suppot. question: What method od drain do you use? I have a bit of a concern, I do not know if it is valid. Right now, as you know, I have 1/2 IBC tanks for GB. I have not filled them with media yet, I am in the stand construction phase. This is my second system, so I have a bit of experience. in the past I drained using a syphon, and that was the only thing that kept failing. I want ot get rid of this point of failure. now back to my question, if I use the plan that you are suggestion, to "on" cycle enough to fill one GB and "off" enough for it to drain, suppose the on is 20m and the off is 30. That means every GB needs 50 minutes. This means that if I have two GB, one of them will be "waiting" for water for 50 minutes. if I have 3 GB, that means each one will wait his turn for 50+50minutes and so on? would it be a waste to have beds wait this long? your thoughts? Thanks</p>
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</blockquote> 'Weep holes'? That makes it s…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-31:4778851:Comment:5846602014-10-31T12:49:54.639ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>'Weep holes'? That makes it sound like your aquaponic system is always crying....Timer based systems have suddenly become depressing :*(</p>
<p><cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=2#4778851Comment584317"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Your drain time will be determined by the size of the 'weep holes' that you drill in the bottom of your stand pipe. If 30…</p>
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<p>'Weep holes'? That makes it sound like your aquaponic system is always crying....Timer based systems have suddenly become depressing :*(</p>
<p><cite>Vlad Jovanovic said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=2#4778851Comment584317"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Your drain time will be determined by the size of the 'weep holes' that you drill in the bottom of your stand pipe. If 30 minutes is too long, go to the garage and grab a larger diameter drill bit <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></p>
<p>My beds fill in about 9 minutes (the fill time is determined by the size of your pump. I have a ball valve plumbed into the outlet side of my pump so that I can adjust (slow down, or speed up) the fill time. The "extra" water coming out of the ball valve just dumps right back into my fish tank...while the water from the grow bed(s) drains via gravity into my sump.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?x=1&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=1#4778851Comment583196"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Vlad,</p>
<p>Thank you for your suppot. question: What method od drain do you use? I have a bit of a concern, I do not know if it is valid. Right now, as you know, I have 1/2 IBC tanks for GB. I have not filled them with media yet, I am in the stand construction phase. This is my second system, so I have a bit of experience. in the past I drained using a syphon, and that was the only thing that kept failing. I want ot get rid of this point of failure. now back to my question, if I use the plan that you are suggestion, to "on" cycle enough to fill one GB and "off" enough for it to drain, suppose the on is 20m and the off is 30. That means every GB needs 50 minutes. This means that if I have two GB, one of them will be "waiting" for water for 50 minutes. if I have 3 GB, that means each one will wait his turn for 50+50minutes and so on? would it be a waste to have beds wait this long? your thoughts? Thanks</p>
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</blockquote> Your drain time will be deter…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-27:4778851:Comment:5843172014-10-27T12:48:32.590ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Your drain time will be determined by the size of the 'weep holes' that you drill in the bottom of your stand pipe. If 30 minutes is too long, go to the garage and grab a larger diameter drill bit <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"></img></p>
<p>My beds fill in about 9 minutes (the fill time is determined by the size of your pump. I have a ball valve plumbed into the outlet side of my pump so that I can adjust (slow down, or speed up) the fill time. The "extra" water coming out of the ball valve just dumps right back into…</p>
<p>Your drain time will be determined by the size of the 'weep holes' that you drill in the bottom of your stand pipe. If 30 minutes is too long, go to the garage and grab a larger diameter drill bit <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></p>
<p>My beds fill in about 9 minutes (the fill time is determined by the size of your pump. I have a ball valve plumbed into the outlet side of my pump so that I can adjust (slow down, or speed up) the fill time. The "extra" water coming out of the ball valve just dumps right back into my fish tank...while the water from the grow bed(s) drains via gravity into my sump.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?x=1&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=1#4778851Comment583196"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Vlad,</p>
<p>Thank you for your suppot. question: What method od drain do you use? I have a bit of a concern, I do not know if it is valid. Right now, as you know, I have 1/2 IBC tanks for GB. I have not filled them with media yet, I am in the stand construction phase. This is my second system, so I have a bit of experience. in the past I drained using a syphon, and that was the only thing that kept failing. I want ot get rid of this point of failure. now back to my question, if I use the plan that you are suggestion, to "on" cycle enough to fill one GB and "off" enough for it to drain, suppose the on is 20m and the off is 30. That means every GB needs 50 minutes. This means that if I have two GB, one of them will be "waiting" for water for 50 minutes. if I have 3 GB, that means each one will wait his turn for 50+50minutes and so on? would it be a waste to have beds wait this long? your thoughts? Thanks</p>
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</blockquote> My tank is in the ground and…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-27:4778851:Comment:5840732014-10-27T01:34:00.439ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>My tank is in the ground and my grow beds are raised above ground. My beds drain back to the tank.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=2#4778851Comment584041"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>George,</p>
<p>What method of draining you use?</p>
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<p>My tank is in the ground and my grow beds are raised above ground. My beds drain back to the tank.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/depth-of-ibc-grow-bed?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A583080&page=2#4778851Comment584041"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>George,</p>
<p>What method of draining you use?</p>
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What method of draini…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-25:4778851:Comment:5840412014-10-25T16:10:53.300ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
<p>George,</p>
<p>What method of draining you use?</p>
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<p>George,</p>
<p>What method of draining you use?</p>
<p></p> Hello,
What happened, how com…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-25:4778851:Comment:5838952014-10-25T16:10:00.321ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>What happened, how come no one is replying to my questions.</p>
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>What happened, how come no one is replying to my questions.</p>
<p></p> George,
What method of draini…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-21:4778851:Comment:5833592014-10-21T07:14:14.852ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
<p>George,</p>
<p>What method of draining you use, how do you not have a sumb? where do you drain to?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<p>George,</p>
<p>What method of draining you use, how do you not have a sumb? where do you drain to?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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Thank you for your supp…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-21:4778851:Comment:5831962014-10-21T07:13:17.347ZMoehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Moe
<p>Vlad,</p>
<p>Thank you for your suppot. question: What method od drain do you use? I have a bit of a concern, I do not know if it is valid. Right now, as you know, I have 1/2 IBC tanks for GB. I have not filled them with media yet, I am in the stand construction phase. This is my second system, so I have a bit of experience. in the past I drained using a syphon, and that was the only thing that kept failing. I want ot get rid of this point of failure. now back to my question, if I…</p>
<p>Vlad,</p>
<p>Thank you for your suppot. question: What method od drain do you use? I have a bit of a concern, I do not know if it is valid. Right now, as you know, I have 1/2 IBC tanks for GB. I have not filled them with media yet, I am in the stand construction phase. This is my second system, so I have a bit of experience. in the past I drained using a syphon, and that was the only thing that kept failing. I want ot get rid of this point of failure. now back to my question, if I use the plan that you are suggestion, to "on" cycle enough to fill one GB and "off" enough for it to drain, suppose the on is 20m and the off is 30. That means every GB needs 50 minutes. This means that if I have two GB, one of them will be "waiting" for water for 50 minutes. if I have 3 GB, that means each one will wait his turn for 50+50minutes and so on? would it be a waste to have beds wait this long? your thoughts? Thanks</p>
<p> </p> no sump. the beds flood one…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-10-21:4778851:Comment:5832972014-10-21T01:53:43.545ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>no sump. the beds flood one at a time and then drain completely before the next bed floods.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
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<p>This is question for George,</p>
<p>you mentioned that you have one pump, one timer, one index valve, and six GB. How big is your sumb tank? if all the GB's are draining at the same time, you…</p>
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<p>no sump. the beds flood one at a time and then drain completely before the next bed floods.<br/> <br/> <cite>Moe said:</cite></p>
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<p>This is question for George,</p>
<p>you mentioned that you have one pump, one timer, one index valve, and six GB. How big is your sumb tank? if all the GB's are draining at the same time, you must have a ST big enough to accomodate water from 6 GB?</p>
<p>Correct?</p>
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<p>Yes, they are the same thing.</p>
<p>Yes, you can purchase a 6 way index valve and install a 2 way cam. Then when you want to expand, replace the 2 way cam with a 6 way (or 3 way cam, 4 way or whatever).</p>
<p>There are no electrical parts, and not much to break. The valve works by water pressure (flow). Inside there is a stem disk assembly and a simple cam. When your pump turns, the water flow presses the rubber disk against the bottom of the valves housing where the zone outlets are,…</p>
<p>Yes, they are the same thing.</p>
<p>Yes, you can purchase a 6 way index valve and install a 2 way cam. Then when you want to expand, replace the 2 way cam with a 6 way (or 3 way cam, 4 way or whatever).</p>
<p>There are no electrical parts, and not much to break. The valve works by water pressure (flow). Inside there is a stem disk assembly and a simple cam. When your pump turns, the water flow presses the rubber disk against the bottom of the valves housing where the zone outlets are, thereby 'sealing the disk assembly'. The disk has one cut out that allows water to pass through it to flood your bed.</p>
<p>When the timer turns your pump off, and there is no water pressure (flow) anymore, the disk assembly (via a spring mechanism inside the stem) pushes upwards into it's natural 'open' position. As it slides upward over the cam, it turns to the next irrigation zone position...when the timer kicks the pump back on...the cycle repeats itself...</p>
<p>Some of mine have been running for years with no issues.</p>
<p>You can use them to flood 10 gallon beds or 10,000 gallon beds, and anything in between (it would just be a matter of setting the timer to your needed 'on cycle'.</p>
<p>You set the timers 'off cycle' to however long you need to drain the bed before the next on starts to fill. This means your sump is only receiving water from one bed at a time, so you don't need a sump to handle 6 grow beds draining at once.</p>
<p>Don't buy the regular indexing valves on the net or the Big Box stores as you will need a pretty big pump to operate them. The disk assembly needs to be modified for AP. I have about a dozen or so such AP modified valves sitting in my shop.Iif you are interested PM me. (I don't care who you buy them from, just letting you know that I have AP modified ones available if your interested).</p>