Dead Tilapia - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T13:14:25Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/dead-tilapia?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A166184&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm happy to drink our water,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-16:4778851:Comment:1830272011-08-16T00:36:41.338ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
I'm happy to drink our water, the washing machine and hot water heater probably wish I would filter the water more though.
I'm happy to drink our water, the washing machine and hot water heater probably wish I would filter the water more though. This is the second place I've…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-16:4778851:Comment:1833242011-08-16T00:32:33.080ZLarry Reinhardthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LarryReinhardt
<p>This is the second place I've lived that had acid water and the water needs no treatment its good to drink as is. My next door neighbor who is only a 125' away has water full of iron and other junk, they had to have a $3,000 water treatment system put in and they still won't drink the water. They drilled down 152' to get good water and the pump is set at 85' so that tells they punched into an pressurized aquifer of some sort.</p>
<p>The crushed coral prevents the bounce and keeps my water…</p>
<p>This is the second place I've lived that had acid water and the water needs no treatment its good to drink as is. My next door neighbor who is only a 125' away has water full of iron and other junk, they had to have a $3,000 water treatment system put in and they still won't drink the water. They drilled down 152' to get good water and the pump is set at 85' so that tells they punched into an pressurized aquifer of some sort.</p>
<p>The crushed coral prevents the bounce and keeps my water right at 7, so that's a good thing I believe.</p>
<p><cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/dead-tilapia?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A183128&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment183128"><div><p>Wow Larry!!!! I'm jealous as my well water is full of limestone (pH ranges between 8-8.4 depending on time of year, well is at least 126 feet deep as that is where the pump is sitting) so I've been having issues with my pH staying too high from just simply topping up let alone doing water changes. Kinda amazes me that you have acidic well water and you don't live all that far from me! Just goes to show that source water can have a huge impact on how an aquaponic system will operate and what methods will need to be used to balance things.</p>
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<p>At least with Aquaponics we normally don't do water changes, mostly only topping up. For people with extreme source water I usually suggest a tank for prepping the water before putting it in the system. Some people need to bring the pH down on their source water before adding it to the system and adding acid directly to an AP system can cause those dangerous pH bounces. Seems some people may need to buffer their rain water or well water a little bit before adding to the system. In aquaponics calcium carbonate is often alternated with some potassium buffer to help keep the potassium and calcium levels in balance and provide the needed potassium to the plants.</p>
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</blockquote> Wow Larry!!!! I'm jealous as…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-15:4778851:Comment:1831282011-08-15T23:05:20.816ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Wow Larry!!!! I'm jealous as my well water is full of limestone (pH ranges between 8-8.4 depending on time of year, well is at least 126 feet deep as that is where the pump is sitting) so I've been having issues with my pH staying too high from just simply topping up let alone doing water changes. Kinda amazes me that you have acidic well water and you don't live all that far from me! Just goes to show that source water can have a huge impact on how an aquaponic system will operate and…</p>
<p>Wow Larry!!!! I'm jealous as my well water is full of limestone (pH ranges between 8-8.4 depending on time of year, well is at least 126 feet deep as that is where the pump is sitting) so I've been having issues with my pH staying too high from just simply topping up let alone doing water changes. Kinda amazes me that you have acidic well water and you don't live all that far from me! Just goes to show that source water can have a huge impact on how an aquaponic system will operate and what methods will need to be used to balance things.</p>
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<p>At least with Aquaponics we normally don't do water changes, mostly only topping up. For people with extreme source water I usually suggest a tank for prepping the water before putting it in the system. Some people need to bring the pH down on their source water before adding it to the system and adding acid directly to an AP system can cause those dangerous pH bounces. Seems some people may need to buffer their rain water or well water a little bit before adding to the system. In aquaponics calcium carbonate is often alternated with some potassium buffer to help keep the potassium and calcium levels in balance and provide the needed potassium to the plants.</p> My water here in central FLor…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-15:4778851:Comment:1832022011-08-15T18:36:45.971ZLarry Reinhardthttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LarryReinhardt
My water here in central FLorida comes out of the ground at 6.0 PH and has no buffering ability at all. So when I make a serious water change I get PH bounce and the water quickly goes through the roof - off the chart in just a few hours. This is serious stress to the fish and results in belly up the next day. I have to keep Crushed Coral in the filter systems to prevent this from happening. I lost a lot of fish until one day I checked the PH every two hours after adding just 50% new water the…
My water here in central FLorida comes out of the ground at 6.0 PH and has no buffering ability at all. So when I make a serious water change I get PH bounce and the water quickly goes through the roof - off the chart in just a few hours. This is serious stress to the fish and results in belly up the next day. I have to keep Crushed Coral in the filter systems to prevent this from happening. I lost a lot of fish until one day I checked the PH every two hours after adding just 50% new water the change in PH was a real eye opener. Hi Moses,
You've said that yo…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-08-01:4778851:Comment:1672342011-08-01T05:50:23.545ZHarold Sukhbirhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/HaroldSukhbir
<p>Hi Moses,</p>
<p>You've said that you found some uneaten food somewhere in your system and yet you are having zero ammonia and nitrites? Decaying food shoots ammonia through the roof.</p>
<p>Hi Moses,</p>
<p>You've said that you found some uneaten food somewhere in your system and yet you are having zero ammonia and nitrites? Decaying food shoots ammonia through the roof.</p> I just walked out to my syste…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-31:4778851:Comment:1661842011-07-31T07:37:30.853ZRaychel A Watkinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RaychelAWatkins
I just walked out to my systems this am and found 4 dead Tilipia floating on the top of one of my 180 gal rubbermaid tanks. This tank has been up for a year with no problems. As someone pointed out they looked like the had been dead awhile. The water was a little murky and has always been clear before. I did all the tests no Ammonia , pH good nitrates good. I tried to figure what had happened. The only thing I could think of was that my son in law had sawed some boards for a new system…
I just walked out to my systems this am and found 4 dead Tilipia floating on the top of one of my 180 gal rubbermaid tanks. This tank has been up for a year with no problems. As someone pointed out they looked like the had been dead awhile. The water was a little murky and has always been clear before. I did all the tests no Ammonia , pH good nitrates good. I tried to figure what had happened. The only thing I could think of was that my son in law had sawed some boards for a new system around that tank and I had noticed the saw dust on the grow bed. I immediately took the water down twice and filled with fresh water. I was gone all day but this evening When I went out the water was clear and all fish looked fine. I believe the saw dust was toxic. It was old wood probably treated. I have added cheated iron many times and never a problem. One day I moved 60 tilapia out of a tank just because the ammonia was too high. They were having no problem with the ammonia. I put them in a new tank I had never used before. the next morning 48 were dead. The pH was 8.5. The tank was not cleaned properly. So much for me giving the fish some relief from the ammonia. I have since cleaned the tank properly and have happy fish living in it, If you find some dead ones you have to do something about the water now not later. I did save 12 fish by moving them to another tank I new was safe. It hurts when these things happen. It sure doesn't sound like you were overloaded in the system. Is the system new? Is there anything in the systems structure that could be toxic. I and another person killed a bunch of baby catfish because we used new kids swimming pools. Think about what it does to children. Yes Chris, at least in a way.…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-31:4778851:Comment:1666442011-07-31T01:49:18.533ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Yes Chris, at least in a way. The warmer the water, the less dissolved oxygen it can hold so as the temperature rises you need more aeration to replace any used up dissolved oxygen as quickly as possible since there is less available in the water in the first place.</p>
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<p>During the bright sunny hours of the day, algae will provide dissolved oxygen to the water but as soon as it gets dark, plants start consuming oxygen. If the water is warm (read not much dissolved oxygen in it)…</p>
<p>Yes Chris, at least in a way. The warmer the water, the less dissolved oxygen it can hold so as the temperature rises you need more aeration to replace any used up dissolved oxygen as quickly as possible since there is less available in the water in the first place.</p>
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<p>During the bright sunny hours of the day, algae will provide dissolved oxygen to the water but as soon as it gets dark, plants start consuming oxygen. If the water is warm (read not much dissolved oxygen in it) and there isn't enough aeration going on, at night algae can quickly use up all the dissolved oxygen and leave the fish gasping at the surface before morning and in some cases dead by morning.</p> I read some where the warmer…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-31:4778851:Comment:1663592011-07-31T00:03:44.538ZChris McMahonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChrisMcMahon
I read some where the warmer the water gets the more dissolved oxygen you need to have. Combine that with algae and I think Chi Ma may be on to something.
I read some where the warmer the water gets the more dissolved oxygen you need to have. Combine that with algae and I think Chi Ma may be on to something. My tests have been all readin…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-30:4778851:Comment:1661422011-07-30T04:45:06.376ZMoses Greengrasshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/greengrass
My tests have been all reading zero, including nitrate. Plants seem OK, PH is too high for some. Algae is causing the water to be green. Trying to keep the light down on any open water. Occasionally I see one fish swim off into the green abyss if I sneak up real quiet. It might be the only one left. If I had one regret about starting up an AP system it would be that i overlooked this website before I built and started growing on the system. Thanks for all the knowledge.<br></br>
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<cite>TCLynx…</cite>
My tests have been all reading zero, including nitrate. Plants seem OK, PH is too high for some. Algae is causing the water to be green. Trying to keep the light down on any open water. Occasionally I see one fish swim off into the green abyss if I sneak up real quiet. It might be the only one left. If I had one regret about starting up an AP system it would be that i overlooked this website before I built and started growing on the system. Thanks for all the knowledge.<br/>
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<cite>TCLynx said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/dead-tilapia?xg_source=activity#4778851Comment161675"><div><p>Well, is the water clearing up? If so, then see what your new test kit tells you and if the fish seem to have stabilized then you may be recovering.</p>
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<p>Sounds like you have a good amount of flow so perhaps you just had an issue of perhaps overfeeding or the fish having gone off the feed briefly (and the excess feed being sucked into the filtration before you realized it) could have caused an undetected ammonia spike due to faulty test liquid (yea the stuff sometimes goes bad.)</p>
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<p>If things are clearing up then the remaining fish could recover and you will just have to see how it goes.</p>
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<p>It doesn't necessarily take a huge amount of fish to provide nutrients for the plants and if the plants seem happy then even if the nitrate reads 0 there may still be enough.</p>
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<p>I've lately had some issues with some old feed going bad and causing system health issues. I've disposed of the old feed and cleaned out all the feeders and bins and things seem better here since.</p>
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</blockquote> Well, is the water clearing u…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-23:4778851:Comment:1616752011-07-23T20:03:28.571ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Well, is the water clearing up? If so, then see what your new test kit tells you and if the fish seem to have stabilized then you may be recovering.</p>
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<p>Sounds like you have a good amount of flow so perhaps you just had an issue of perhaps overfeeding or the fish having gone off the feed briefly (and the excess feed being sucked into the filtration before you realized it) could have caused an undetected ammonia spike due to faulty test liquid (yea the stuff sometimes goes…</p>
<p>Well, is the water clearing up? If so, then see what your new test kit tells you and if the fish seem to have stabilized then you may be recovering.</p>
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<p>Sounds like you have a good amount of flow so perhaps you just had an issue of perhaps overfeeding or the fish having gone off the feed briefly (and the excess feed being sucked into the filtration before you realized it) could have caused an undetected ammonia spike due to faulty test liquid (yea the stuff sometimes goes bad.)</p>
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<p>If things are clearing up then the remaining fish could recover and you will just have to see how it goes.</p>
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<p>It doesn't necessarily take a huge amount of fish to provide nutrients for the plants and if the plants seem happy then even if the nitrate reads 0 there may still be enough.</p>
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<p>I've lately had some issues with some old feed going bad and causing system health issues. I've disposed of the old feed and cleaned out all the feeders and bins and things seem better here since.</p>