Commercial Growbed Construction - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T00:30:41Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/commercial-growbed?groupUrl=commercialap&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A96066&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A29008&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm designing my raft system…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-20:4778851:Comment:5066282013-08-20T00:55:55.536ZMark Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MarkHall
<p>I'm designing my raft system out of concrete for a number of reasons. No rot. no liner to worry about and tons of thermal mass to keep water temps. more stable. It has a Concrete slab with walls that are 2 cinderblocks (16") high. Plastered with mortar to round out the floor to wall transition for easier cleaning and sealed with Thoroseal FX100 (suitable for low pH and potable water situations). More work up front, but no maintenance.</p>
<p>I'm designing my raft system out of concrete for a number of reasons. No rot. no liner to worry about and tons of thermal mass to keep water temps. more stable. It has a Concrete slab with walls that are 2 cinderblocks (16") high. Plastered with mortar to round out the floor to wall transition for easier cleaning and sealed with Thoroseal FX100 (suitable for low pH and potable water situations). More work up front, but no maintenance.</p> Hi Folks. I know there is a l…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-08-17:4778851:Comment:5058302013-08-17T18:34:00.755ZGreg McCordhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/GregMcCord
<p>Hi Folks. I know there is a lot of discussions on different materials for your floating raft beds. Here is an excellent Polyethylene 20ml. thick liner I have used in the past for some pond applications. It's made of the same materials as Duraskrim but It is Black and has the UV inhibitors too. They sell it in many different roll sizes perfect for floating rafts race ways. It's easy to fold into corners and light weight to work with. You need a business licences and set up an account to buy…</p>
<p>Hi Folks. I know there is a lot of discussions on different materials for your floating raft beds. Here is an excellent Polyethylene 20ml. thick liner I have used in the past for some pond applications. It's made of the same materials as Duraskrim but It is Black and has the UV inhibitors too. They sell it in many different roll sizes perfect for floating rafts race ways. It's easy to fold into corners and light weight to work with. You need a business licences and set up an account to buy wholesale from them.<a href="http://www.coastalpond.com/liner-permalon-c-814_11_68_517.html">http://www.coastalpond.com/liner-permalon-c-814_11_68_517.html</a></p>
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<div class="content" id="indexProductListCatDescription"><img src="http://www.coastalpond.com/images/permalon.jpg"/><p>Permalon is manufactured as the industries most advanced group of geosynthetic cross laminates and composites. Permalon offers outstanding chemical resistance, weathering characteristics and the highest weight to strength ratio available.</p>
<p>Ideal for pits, quick tank liners, ponds and lagoons, Permalon® materials are factory fabricated up to an acre or more in size. Custom fabrication capabilities also include three dimensional shapes for box and container liners, raceway liners and waterproofing/rehabilitating all manner of structural containers.</p>
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</div> Friendly Aquapoics has inform…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-02-19:4778851:Comment:4400232013-02-19T22:57:35.182ZTed Ansinkhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TedAnsink
<p>Friendly Aquapoics has information about building with plywood and they seem to think that it is something that will last a long time. If you are not handy doing things like this, you might want to pay someone to do it for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/free-diy-stuff/free-downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/free-diy-stuff/free-downloads/</a></p>
<p>Friendly Aquapoics has information about building with plywood and they seem to think that it is something that will last a long time. If you are not handy doing things like this, you might want to pay someone to do it for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/free-diy-stuff/free-downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/free-diy-stuff/free-downloads/</a></p> I'm new to all of this, but I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-02-19:4778851:Comment:4401122013-02-19T19:38:57.506ZDon Johnsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DonJohnson
<p>I'm new to all of this, but I have three IBC tanks, and three blue poly 55 gallon barrels already. There is a source of used HD commercial grade stainless steel tables, and racks near me. I've seen some stored outside, and they look suitable for use as an Aquaphonic tables, and stands. If the price is right, I could cut a cradle frame of wood to put the PCV tanks in them to make the grow beds. Has anyone tried this approach? I already have a 10x20 foot cement slab, that was once a dog…</p>
<p>I'm new to all of this, but I have three IBC tanks, and three blue poly 55 gallon barrels already. There is a source of used HD commercial grade stainless steel tables, and racks near me. I've seen some stored outside, and they look suitable for use as an Aquaphonic tables, and stands. If the price is right, I could cut a cradle frame of wood to put the PCV tanks in them to make the grow beds. Has anyone tried this approach? I already have a 10x20 foot cement slab, that was once a dog kennel, and build a greenhouse to house the new system.</p>
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The thing not…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-02-19:4778851:Comment:4401072013-02-19T19:32:24.506ZDon Johnsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DonJohnson
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/commercial-growbed?groupUrl=commercialap&xg_source=activity&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A29008&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A94683&page=2#4778851Comment96252"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The thing not figured in this pricing is that all the pond liners are going to need a complete box constructed to support it and the gravel.</p>
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<p>As far as using pond…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/commercial-growbed?groupUrl=commercialap&xg_source=activity&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A29008&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A94683&page=2#4778851Comment96252"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The thing not figured in this pricing is that all the pond liners are going to need a complete box constructed to support it and the gravel.</p>
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<p>As far as using pond liner, I know the EPDM stands up well against gravel wear and tear, but the moist space between the gravel and a wood box is very attractive to termites. I still use EPDM but I will no longer endorse it's used against wood in termite territory. I don't know if any of the other pond liners are any better proof against chewing insects that are going to love the most space between them and wood. (The space between any liner and a wood box is going to have condensation in a humid climate since when the grow beds flood the plastic will be cool.)</p>
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<p>There are several liners that are sturdy enough to support water with a radius on the ground without ripping out of the edging on the frame but I'm not sure if any of them will handle doing that with gravel. The HDPE plastic is sturdy enough to do such a thing with the bottom supported on the ground. Any type of liner to do up at table height though is going to need the bottom supported so suddenly this becomes a pretty costly method in terms of needing nursery benches or something to support the bottom of the liner as well as a frame to support the top edge if it's HDPE plastic or complete sides (that won't bow out) if using a lighter weight pond liner.</p>
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<p>I think this is a bit portion of why few commercial operations use large scale media beds.</p>
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<p>Have you looked into masonry grow beds? Ferrocement or block or brick?</p>
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chisel on top and the shape…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-12:4778851:Comment:1305212011-06-12T12:29:20.439ZFrancois Lemmerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FrancoisLemmer
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<p style="text-align: center;">chisel on top and the shape of the piont</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185109?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185109?profile=original" width="275"></img></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">the groove in the plastic bellow</p>
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<p>I wanted to add this the other day. <br></br>This is a chisel I made using a +-8 mm x 50mm flat mild steel and sharpening the chisel end to this shape. With this you can’t…</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">chisel on top and the shape of the piont</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">the groove in the plastic bellow</p>
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<p>I wanted to add this the other day. <br/>This is a chisel I made using a +-8 mm x 50mm flat mild steel and sharpening the chisel end to this shape. With this you can’t damage the liner by hitting to hard. <br/>I used a wood strip under the plastic to do the punching on <br/>The two flats stops you from going through the liner <br/><br/>after this you get a perfect bend.</p> Yes!!!!! Beautiful Photo Dem…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-11:4778851:Comment:1302042011-06-11T00:53:04.045ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
Yes!!!!! Beautiful Photo Demo!!!!!!
Yes!!!!! Beautiful Photo Demo!!!!!! Francois!!! You are a saviour…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-10:4778851:Comment:1295532011-06-10T19:04:44.686ZNigel Clementhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/NigelClement
Francois!!! You are a saviour! Thank you very much for taking the time to post this, it is greatly appreciated.
Francois!!! You are a saviour! Thank you very much for taking the time to post this, it is greatly appreciated. Nigel Clement said:
I would l…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-10:4778851:Comment:1299272011-06-10T15:58:28.038ZFrancois Lemmerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FrancoisLemmer
<br></br><br></br><cite>Nigel Clement said:</cite>
<blockquote><div>I would love to get a good step by step on folding the ends</div>
<div>Hope this helps <br></br><br></br>I used a blunt chisel and hammer and on the line i marked i punched the plastic.</div>
<div>not damaging the plastick but making a shallow groove for the bend </div>
<div>then the bend comes out a square corner and the fold looks nice</div>
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<br/><br/><cite>Nigel Clement said:</cite>
<blockquote><div>I would love to get a good step by step on folding the ends</div>
<div>Hope this helps <br/><br/>I used a blunt chisel and hammer and on the line i marked i punched the plastic.</div>
<div>not damaging the plastick but making a shallow groove for the bend </div>
<div>then the bend comes out a square corner and the fold looks nice</div>
<div style="text-align: center;">flat plastic</div>
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<p style="text-align: center;">the first folds</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">the two sides and the end</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">the corner</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185523?profile=original"><img width="300" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185523?profile=original" class="align-center"/></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">the inside of the box</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185548?profile=original"><img width="400" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185548?profile=original" class="align-center"/></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">from outside</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185864?profile=original"><img width="400" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772185864?profile=original" class="align-center"/></a></p> Thanks so much for the photos…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-06-02:4778851:Comment:1249142011-06-02T01:35:13.431ZMary Hundleyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MaryHundley
Thanks so much for the photos and suggestions. <br></br>
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<cite>Francois Lemmer said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/commercial-growbed?groupUrl=commercialap&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A124254&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment124235"><div><p>In the small system I am currently building I use the same concept with my old grow trays re used and supported by brickwork my grow trays are only 180 mm deep…</p>
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Thanks so much for the photos and suggestions. <br/>
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<cite>Francois Lemmer said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/commercial-growbed?groupUrl=commercialap&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A124254&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment124235"><div><p>In the small system I am currently building I use the same concept with my old grow trays re used and supported by brickwork my grow trays are only 180 mm deep <a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772184751?profile=original"><img width="300" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772184751?profile=original" class="align-center"/></a></p>
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