Certified Organic v.2.0 - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T23:17:35Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/certified-organic-v-2-0?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A341172&feed=yes&xn_auth=noto sign and spread:
a petitio…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-03-16:4778851:Comment:4503982013-03-16T21:25:15.655ZFrank De Block-Burij (hygicell)https://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FrankDeBlockBurij
<p>to sign and spread:</p>
<p>a petition to allow Organic Certification for Aquaponics</p>
<p><a href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/allow_Organic_Certification_for_more_modern_techniques/?pv=3" target="_blank">http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/allow_Organic_Certification_for_more_modern_techniques/?pv=3</a></p>
<p>to sign and spread:</p>
<p>a petition to allow Organic Certification for Aquaponics</p>
<p><a href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/allow_Organic_Certification_for_more_modern_techniques/?pv=3" target="_blank">http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/allow_Organic_Certification_for_more_modern_techniques/?pv=3</a></p> I think everybody here would…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-12:4778851:Comment:3911582012-09-12T01:35:44.622ZSkip Johncoxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SkipJohncox
<p>I think everybody here would love to be able to get our products Certified Organic. You are an "Insider" so to speak . YOU tell US how to achieve this. I know I would greatly appreciate all of your help and insight. My first thought would to be to cause a class action lawsuit and challenge the Authority and Legitimacy of the Certifying Agency and challenge that they are discriminating on the basis that they are poorly informed ! It's quite obvious that I am not an Attorney , but I think you…</p>
<p>I think everybody here would love to be able to get our products Certified Organic. You are an "Insider" so to speak . YOU tell US how to achieve this. I know I would greatly appreciate all of your help and insight. My first thought would to be to cause a class action lawsuit and challenge the Authority and Legitimacy of the Certifying Agency and challenge that they are discriminating on the basis that they are poorly informed ! It's quite obvious that I am not an Attorney , but I think you get the gist. With enough people backing it. It would force the USDA to take another look. This is obviously the long route. It's also not a route most of us would choose! I for one do not ever wish to be produce a product that could be hazardous. Now for my next Thought ! I would love to hear what you have to say about product safety . This is a question that has eating at me for sometime and I had no idea where to get accurate answers . If this is your Field or Specialty I would love to hear what you have to say. Thanks for your time ! If your more comfortable discussing this off the Forum, feel free to message me, I do think there are some here who would like to know your thoughts on this subject though !</p>
<p></p> Anyone have info on what all…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-11:4778851:Comment:3910512012-09-11T05:19:57.125ZCraig Mullinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/CraigMullins10
<p>Anyone have info on what all we have to do to get certified?</p>
<p>Anyone have info on what all we have to do to get certified?</p> Peter - looking forward to th…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-31:4778851:Comment:3436202012-05-31T02:13:24.056ZPiceshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/WilliamBarker
<p>Peter - looking forward to the saga of organic cert. Although I have one tank and media bed operating, I am still in system build out and it will be awhile before I am able to pursue organic cert.</p>
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<p>Rebecca - thanks for the encouragement - I certainly agree that worms are good!</p>
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<p>Food Safety Guy - its good to hear the list of certifiers is expanding, rather than the alternative!</p>
<p>Peter - looking forward to the saga of organic cert. Although I have one tank and media bed operating, I am still in system build out and it will be awhile before I am able to pursue organic cert.</p>
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<p>Rebecca - thanks for the encouragement - I certainly agree that worms are good!</p>
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<p>Food Safety Guy - its good to hear the list of certifiers is expanding, rather than the alternative!</p> Awesome, Peter and Rebecca, t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-31:4778851:Comment:3433962012-05-31T00:34:06.389ZFood Safety Guyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FoodSafetyGuy
<p>Awesome, Peter and Rebecca, too true. </p>
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<p>Bill: We have heard CCOF & Oregon Tilth have provided Organic Certs. Organic Certifiers, in Ventura, CA just told me they have a couple aquaponic growers that are in good standing. </p>
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<p>Awesome, Peter and Rebecca, too true. </p>
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<p>Bill: We have heard CCOF & Oregon Tilth have provided Organic Certs. Organic Certifiers, in Ventura, CA just told me they have a couple aquaponic growers that are in good standing. </p>
<p></p> The two companies the Friendl…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-30:4778851:Comment:3434562012-05-30T22:06:19.262ZRebecca Bhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RebeccaBranham
<p>The two companies the Friendlies have worked with are in OR and CA, so, in NC, you're probably going to deal with another, more local company. I'd suggest locating 1-2 and start talking to them.</p>
<p>The worms do not disqualify your system, if that is your fear. I contacted a couple of certifying companies and asked and was told no problem re: worms. (Organic soil had better have worms!)</p>
<p>The two companies the Friendlies have worked with are in OR and CA, so, in NC, you're probably going to deal with another, more local company. I'd suggest locating 1-2 and start talking to them.</p>
<p>The worms do not disqualify your system, if that is your fear. I contacted a couple of certifying companies and asked and was told no problem re: worms. (Organic soil had better have worms!)</p> Great topic for a wannabe "co…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-30:4778851:Comment:3433772012-05-30T21:11:07.251ZPiceshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/WilliamBarker
<p>Great topic for a wannabe "commercial" operation. The USDA certified organic label brings a higher price in the marketplace and if it is possible to get certified organic I for one would like to pursue this. Friendly Aquaponics in Hawaii have been certified organic and "sell" their commercial training with the claim that if you build a system exactly by their plans you can get certified organic. However, Hawaii has a much different climate than NC where I am and I have already modified their…</p>
<p>Great topic for a wannabe "commercial" operation. The USDA certified organic label brings a higher price in the marketplace and if it is possible to get certified organic I for one would like to pursue this. Friendly Aquaponics in Hawaii have been certified organic and "sell" their commercial training with the claim that if you build a system exactly by their plans you can get certified organic. However, Hawaii has a much different climate than NC where I am and I have already modified their system plans and added a media bed with worms to filter fish feces before the flow goes to the deep water troughs. Any pointers to make the system palatable to organic certifiers would be very welcome! </p> Great points Peter!tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-30:4778851:Comment:3432702012-05-30T14:51:46.371ZFood Safety Guyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FoodSafetyGuy
<p>Great points Peter!</p>
<p>Great points Peter!</p> Oh, I forgot to add . . . it…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-30:4778851:Comment:3433282012-05-30T14:22:33.408ZFood Safety Guyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FoodSafetyGuy
<p>Oh, I forgot to add . . . it does not matter what our opinions are though. We have to convince the members of the NOP committee. I think they are moving more toward media is soil paradigm. If you read the previous memos they flat out say hydroponic systems cannot be organic, but in 2010 they are redefining their decisions to allow it if you treat media like soil.</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot to add . . . it does not matter what our opinions are though. We have to convince the members of the NOP committee. I think they are moving more toward media is soil paradigm. If you read the previous memos they flat out say hydroponic systems cannot be organic, but in 2010 they are redefining their decisions to allow it if you treat media like soil.</p> WOW I'm impressed TC - you ar…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-30:4778851:Comment:3434122012-05-30T14:18:44.098ZFood Safety Guyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/FoodSafetyGuy
<p>WOW I'm impressed TC - you are serious about this forum . . . I do not even think the ink dried on the post I sent before you responded. </p>
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<p>I Agree with your assessment - that is probably why there is still an ongoing debate about "media" and "soil". Many in the Ag industry would combine the 2 and call media, "soil". </p>
<p>WOW I'm impressed TC - you are serious about this forum . . . I do not even think the ink dried on the post I sent before you responded. </p>
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<p>I Agree with your assessment - that is probably why there is still an ongoing debate about "media" and "soil". Many in the Ag industry would combine the 2 and call media, "soil". </p>