Cabbage and cauliflower pest! Experienced advice? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T13:09:46Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/cabbage-and-cauliflower-pest-experienced-advice?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A340963&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis trick worked great for…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-10-09:4778851:Comment:3995862012-10-09T03:04:38.920ZNathan Halehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/NathanHale
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<p>This trick worked great for me when my system had cut worms terribly bad. Nothing to buy, no concoction to make, just flood the beds and watch them float up out of their hiding places! </p>
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<p>This trick worked great for me when my system had cut worms terribly bad. Nothing to buy, no concoction to make, just flood the beds and watch them float up out of their hiding places! </p> Oh damn.
That explains our n…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-14:4778851:Comment:3502462012-06-14T19:01:39.905ZMelissa Rasmussenhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MelissaRasmussen
<p>Oh damn.</p>
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<p>That explains our nitrite spike, then.</p>
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<p>Thanks.</p>
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<p>That explains our nitrite spike, then.</p>
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<p>Thanks.</p> Holy crap...your agronomist d…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-12:4778851:Comment:3494462012-06-12T21:42:33.664ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Holy crap...your agronomist didn't tell you? Yes, they make antiseptic cremes and dressings from neem leaves. The antiseptic properties of neem leaves are <em>very</em> widely recognized (the leaf and leaf extracts, not just the oil)...</p>
<p>I would imagine your agronomist should know this.</p>
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<p>Holy crap...your agronomist didn't tell you? Yes, they make antiseptic cremes and dressings from neem leaves. The antiseptic properties of neem leaves are <em>very</em> widely recognized (the leaf and leaf extracts, not just the oil)...</p>
<p>I would imagine your agronomist should know this.</p>
<p></p> Gotcha! Thanks. We wound up…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-12:4778851:Comment:3492502012-06-12T13:35:44.078ZMelissa Rasmussenhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MelissaRasmussen
<p>Gotcha! Thanks. We wound up going with neem juice - not the oil, but the tree grows everywhere around here, so we blended up the leaves in water and strained it to make a rich juice. Our agronomist, who's trained in Crop Sciences here in Ghana, thoroughly approves. </p>
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<p>(It's not an antiseptic, is it? We're having some issues with our nutrient levels, and I wonder if the neem affected our bacteria...)</p>
<p>Gotcha! Thanks. We wound up going with neem juice - not the oil, but the tree grows everywhere around here, so we blended up the leaves in water and strained it to make a rich juice. Our agronomist, who's trained in Crop Sciences here in Ghana, thoroughly approves. </p>
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<p>(It's not an antiseptic, is it? We're having some issues with our nutrient levels, and I wonder if the neem affected our bacteria...)</p> Don't use the pyrethrum aroun…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-27:4778851:Comment:3420722012-05-27T17:36:23.049ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Don't use the pyrethrum around an aquaponics system!!!!</p>
<p>Dipel or Thuricide are what you are looking for to deal with caterpillars and those are both safe around aquaponics when used according to label directions.</p>
<p>Don't use the pyrethrum around an aquaponics system!!!!</p>
<p>Dipel or Thuricide are what you are looking for to deal with caterpillars and those are both safe around aquaponics when used according to label directions.</p> Thanks so much, everybody! I…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-27:4778851:Comment:3422412012-05-27T16:54:03.824ZMelissa Rasmussenhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MelissaRasmussen
<p>Thanks so much, everybody! I'll see if I can get some BT or pyrethrum at the big agricultural supply store in Accra tomorrow. They've taken out most of those seedlings by now, but we also want to protect everything else before we put pest screen on the hoop house (should have done that a while ago, hey?).</p>
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<p>I found one of the buggers, too - they're little caterpillars, the biggest I saw was about half an inch long. Vlad, it sounds exactly like what you have. We don't…</p>
<p>Thanks so much, everybody! I'll see if I can get some BT or pyrethrum at the big agricultural supply store in Accra tomorrow. They've taken out most of those seedlings by now, but we also want to protect everything else before we put pest screen on the hoop house (should have done that a while ago, hey?).</p>
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<p>I found one of the buggers, too - they're little caterpillars, the biggest I saw was about half an inch long. Vlad, it sounds exactly like what you have. We don't actually have any fish in the system yet (we've been fertilizing with semi-fermented plant tea, Bioponics-style), so I don't need to worry about hurting them, but I don't want to upset our bacteria either.</p>
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<p>And darn, our borage hasn't survived in this system, it would have been useful.</p> Dipel dust is a brand name of…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-25:4778851:Comment:3409632012-05-25T02:07:19.199ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Dipel dust is a brand name of bacillus thurgensis which is a disease that attacks leaf eating caterpillars. Thuricide is another brand name. It is a spray or dust you apply to the leaves of plants. the caterpillars have to eat some of it before it affects them by giving them a belly ach, they quit eating and die in a few days. It must be used by applying to the parts of the plants that the caterpillars will eat. It is <strong>not</strong> a systemic and you <strong>can't</strong> use it…</p>
<p>Dipel dust is a brand name of bacillus thurgensis which is a disease that attacks leaf eating caterpillars. Thuricide is another brand name. It is a spray or dust you apply to the leaves of plants. the caterpillars have to eat some of it before it affects them by giving them a belly ach, they quit eating and die in a few days. It must be used by applying to the parts of the plants that the caterpillars will eat. It is <strong>not</strong> a systemic and you <strong>can't</strong> use it by watering it into the soil or pouring it into the AP system.</p> Cutworms aka cabbage worms ar…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-25:4778851:Comment:3407762012-05-25T01:44:11.877ZDavidhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/CommunityAP
<p>Cutworms aka cabbage worms are deterred by Borage. </p>
<p>Cutworms aka cabbage worms are deterred by Borage. </p> Three days ago I noticed simi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-24:4778851:Comment:3393952012-05-24T17:30:09.562ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>Three days ago I noticed similar MO on my Napa cabbage and 'open head' chinese cabbage and a little on the bok choy...Lots and lots of dark tiny spherical droppings (which at fist I thought might have been insect eggs) and ever so tiny webbing. Turned out to be a small greenish larva/caterpillar (found more through dumb luck than anything).</p>
<p>I don't know what the name of the pest is, but I brewed up some pyrethrum spray and haven't seen any droppings or…</p>
<p>Three days ago I noticed similar MO on my Napa cabbage and 'open head' chinese cabbage and a little on the bok choy...Lots and lots of dark tiny spherical droppings (which at fist I thought might have been insect eggs) and ever so tiny webbing. Turned out to be a small greenish larva/caterpillar (found more through dumb luck than anything).</p>
<p>I don't know what the name of the pest is, but I brewed up some pyrethrum spray and haven't seen any droppings or additional damage since. </p>
<p>It might be best though to use Chris' method, as insectisidal spray made from pyrethrum flowers is not fish appropriate (neither is any type of oil or soap though).</p> You may have cutworms or othe…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-05-24:4778851:Comment:3395352012-05-24T16:38:07.150ZChris Smithhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ChrisSmith
<p>You may have cutworms or other caterpillars that hide during the day. I get cutworms bad but never see them because they hide in the medium when it is light. They come out at night and can mow down many seedlings each night. I use dipel on a weekly basis. Dipel is a bacteria that eats the bacteria in caterpillars and cutworms stomachs. It works very well for me.</p>
<p>You may have cutworms or other caterpillars that hide during the day. I get cutworms bad but never see them because they hide in the medium when it is light. They come out at night and can mow down many seedlings each night. I use dipel on a weekly basis. Dipel is a bacteria that eats the bacteria in caterpillars and cutworms stomachs. It works very well for me.</p>