building a small bell siphon - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T23:52:11Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/building-a-small-bell-siphon?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A597294&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe nice wood frame sounds go…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-19:4778851:Comment:5972942015-02-19T18:56:51.613ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>The nice wood frame sounds good for the kitchen but I just propped one side against my basement wall and the other side I just put a 6" piece of Styrofoam against the middle of the bed and it works just fine. Nobody ever sees it anyway lol. I have a setup like you're talking about in my dining room with large goldfish and a wood bed on top. I should get some pics.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jim Fisk said:…</cite></p>
<p>The nice wood frame sounds good for the kitchen but I just propped one side against my basement wall and the other side I just put a 6" piece of Styrofoam against the middle of the bed and it works just fine. Nobody ever sees it anyway lol. I have a setup like you're talking about in my dining room with large goldfish and a wood bed on top. I should get some pics.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim Fisk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/building-a-small-bell-siphon?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A597292&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment597292"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey Jeff, yes these little guys are a bit more of a challenge due to surface tension showing it's ugly head. I built this one for a customer and have sold a few now on eBay so I wanted it to be as easy as possible to tune in over as broad a spectrum of water flow as possible. It did take a bit of experimentation and I found the 3" tail that can be swung up and down to be a real asset.</p>
<p>Good advice on supporting the GB tray. Seemed alright during testing but I bet it will fatigue over time but a wood frame nicely stained and sealed should do the trick. I plan to get my set of wire shelves off the storage truck one of these days and plant a kitchen herb garden with some goldfish in the FT. We have the perfect double window in the kitchen. I just worry that the constant sound of running water will keep my wife running as well<a style="cursor: pointer;" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p>
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</blockquote> Hey Jeff, yes these little gu…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-19:4778851:Comment:5972922015-02-19T17:17:36.470ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Hey Jeff, yes these little guys are a bit more of a challenge due to surface tension showing it's ugly head. I built this one for a customer and have sold a few now on eBay so I wanted it to be as easy as possible to tune in over as broad a spectrum of water flow as possible. It did take a bit of experimentation and I found the 3" tail that can be swung up and down to be a real asset.</p>
<p>Good advice on supporting the GB tray. Seemed alright during testing but I bet it will fatigue over…</p>
<p>Hey Jeff, yes these little guys are a bit more of a challenge due to surface tension showing it's ugly head. I built this one for a customer and have sold a few now on eBay so I wanted it to be as easy as possible to tune in over as broad a spectrum of water flow as possible. It did take a bit of experimentation and I found the 3" tail that can be swung up and down to be a real asset.</p>
<p>Good advice on supporting the GB tray. Seemed alright during testing but I bet it will fatigue over time but a wood frame nicely stained and sealed should do the trick. I plan to get my set of wire shelves off the storage truck one of these days and plant a kitchen herb garden with some goldfish in the FT. We have the perfect double window in the kitchen. I just worry that the constant sound of running water will keep my wife running as well<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p> Good job Jim. I set up an "un…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-17:4778851:Comment:5973332015-02-17T22:30:42.390ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>Good job Jim. I set up an "under the bed" type tote, about 36"x18"x6" in my basement using a similar setup. I did have a tuff time getting the right amount of flow so it would start and stop properly but eventually got it. BTW the sides of the tote have to be supported.</p>
<p>Good job Jim. I set up an "under the bed" type tote, about 36"x18"x6" in my basement using a similar setup. I did have a tuff time getting the right amount of flow so it would start and stop properly but eventually got it. BTW the sides of the tote have to be supported.</p> It occurred to me that I have…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2015-02-17:4778851:Comment:5972532015-02-17T21:55:22.682ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>It occurred to me that I have not shown the group our newest bell siphon for a small kitchen garden. In this small size (3-4" media) you run into things like "surface tension" which has next to no effect in the larger sizes. Anyway here are some pics that should be easy to duplicate. I use 1/2" sch 40 thick wall pipe to make the inner diameter as small as possible. The bell is 1 1/4" and the GG is 2". It is adorable if I may say so myself:…</p>
<p>It occurred to me that I have not shown the group our newest bell siphon for a small kitchen garden. In this small size (3-4" media) you run into things like "surface tension" which has next to no effect in the larger sizes. Anyway here are some pics that should be easy to duplicate. I use 1/2" sch 40 thick wall pipe to make the inner diameter as small as possible. The bell is 1 1/4" and the GG is 2". It is adorable if I may say so myself:<a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265076?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265076?profile=original" width="628"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265045?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265045?profile=original" width="413"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265407?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265407?profile=original" width="409"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265446?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265446?profile=original" width="412"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265478?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265478?profile=original" width="383"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265702?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2772265702?profile=original" width="411"/></a>As always the "O"ring goes underneath the GB as it sets nicely into the groove in the grey electrical threaded adapter.</p> Thanks, David! I'm glad to he…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-07:4778851:Comment:5854672014-11-07T01:12:37.093ZAnne Philliphttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AnnePhillip
<p>Thanks, David! I'm glad to hear they're working great for you!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>David Langham said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/building-a-small-bell-siphon?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A585529&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment585529"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I just built 2 3/4" PVC syphons for my 2 half barrel grow beds. They have been working great for a week. I used a 1" to 3/4…</div>
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<p>Thanks, David! I'm glad to hear they're working great for you!<br/> <br/> <cite>David Langham said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/building-a-small-bell-siphon?groupUrl=aquaponicsforbeginners&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A585529&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment585529"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I just built 2 3/4" PVC syphons for my 2 half barrel grow beds. They have been working great for a week. I used a 1" to 3/4 adapter as my funnel at the top. They are about 10" the high with 16" horizontal and another 6" vertical to the sump. Drains in about a minute.</div>
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</blockquote> I just built 2 3/4" PVC sypho…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-11-06:4778851:Comment:5855292014-11-06T16:37:05.753ZDavid Langhamhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DavidLangham
I just built 2 3/4" PVC syphons for my 2 half barrel grow beds. They have been working great for a week. I used a 1" to 3/4 adapter as my funnel at the top. They are about 10" the high with 16" horizontal and another 6" vertical to the sump. Drains in about a minute.
I just built 2 3/4" PVC syphons for my 2 half barrel grow beds. They have been working great for a week. I used a 1" to 3/4 adapter as my funnel at the top. They are about 10" the high with 16" horizontal and another 6" vertical to the sump. Drains in about a minute. Thanks Jack! It sounds excell…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-04-05:4778851:Comment:5567562014-04-05T16:28:44.249ZAnne Philliphttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AnnePhillip
<p>Thanks Jack! It sounds excellent! I hope you guys can go fishing soon :) Thanks for taking the time to tell me about your setup. It's great to hear about specific arrangements that were effective.</p>
<p>Thanks Jack! It sounds excellent! I hope you guys can go fishing soon :) Thanks for taking the time to tell me about your setup. It's great to hear about specific arrangements that were effective.</p> Hi Anne. I have a bell syphon…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-04-05:4778851:Comment:5566732014-04-05T05:46:50.053ZJack Dunbarhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JackDunbar
<p>Hi Anne. I have a bell syphon made with 1" PVC over a 1/2 drain. I did use a snorkel tube and I did have trouble getting it to work properly until I put a small empty pill bottle at the bottom of the snorkel tube. The pill bottle is held in place with an oring being used as an elastic. My media guard around all this is a 4" PVC with slits cut into it. It's been up and running for a month or so with no problems. I wasn't sure if it would drain fast enough but it will drain my 40 gallon tank…</p>
<p>Hi Anne. I have a bell syphon made with 1" PVC over a 1/2 drain. I did use a snorkel tube and I did have trouble getting it to work properly until I put a small empty pill bottle at the bottom of the snorkel tube. The pill bottle is held in place with an oring being used as an elastic. My media guard around all this is a 4" PVC with slits cut into it. It's been up and running for a month or so with no problems. I wasn't sure if it would drain fast enough but it will drain my 40 gallon tank (filled w/ media) in just under 3 minutes. I'm guessing that's 15-20 gallons of water. prior to putting the pill bottles under the snorkel tube, it would dribble and not shut off but with the pill bottle, it shuts off very quickly. This was my first attempt at a bell syphon so I'm sure there are others that may work better.Oh, I almost forgot... my stand pipe is approximately10" high and 15" vertical below the bed to get it down close enough to my FT, then an elbow and then a 7" horizontal pipe and then a 45 on the end. I have 2 grow beds with bell syphons and I turn the 45 in such a way that as they drain into the FT, it helps create a swirl motion in the FT. I hope to post some pics of my setup in the near future. This is a father/son project. my son is 5 and he keeps telling me that he's gonna go fishing soon. We call this setup "Kennys' Victory Garden". Take care... </p> Thanks for the links to the p…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-09:4778851:Comment:5523412014-03-09T16:10:42.206ZAnne Philliphttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AnnePhillip
<p>Thanks for the links to the publications Cheri and Terry, and thanks for your experience-based input Jim!</p>
<p>Thanks for the links to the publications Cheri and Terry, and thanks for your experience-based input Jim!</p> I found this .pdf very helpfu…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-03-09:4778851:Comment:5523382014-03-09T16:04:38.444ZTerry Healyhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TerryHealy
<p>I found this .pdf very helpful, although the comments above seem to have some improvements.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/BIO-10.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/BIO-10.pdf</a></p>
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<p>I found this .pdf very helpful, although the comments above seem to have some improvements.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/BIO-10.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/BIO-10.pdf</a></p>
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