Building a Aquaponics System in Nor Cal - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T00:36:55Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/building-a-aquaponics-system?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A293189&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTodd Sowell said:
I'm not to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-29:4778851:Comment:3001672012-02-29T21:05:13.702ZBlair Ricehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BlairRice
<p><br></br><br></br><cite>Todd Sowell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/building-a-aquaponics-system?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A300075&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment300075"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm not to great on the web thing myself. Hope my daughter doesn't move out too soon.</p>
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<p>Blair, thanks for sharing about Max's class.</p>
<p>Are you doing plastic welding? I think that's the right term. Do you use a…</p>
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<p><br/><br/><cite>Todd Sowell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/building-a-aquaponics-system?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A300075&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment300075"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm not to great on the web thing myself. Hope my daughter doesn't move out too soon.</p>
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<p>Blair, thanks for sharing about Max's class.</p>
<p>Are you doing plastic welding? I think that's the right term. Do you use a standard welder?</p>
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<p>Thanks</p>
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<p>Hey Todd,</p>
<p>The plastic welder is manufactured by Leister and is an hot air/extruder combo...a little on the heavy side, but is a very interesting tool to wield around while negotiating the plastic rod (from a spool) and not smokin' the power cord on the manifold. So, it's not the standard welder...more like the electric zapper gun used in Matrix (it took out Tank and Cypher). </p>
<p>Blair</p> +1 to Blair for the Young Fra…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-29:4778851:Comment:3001662012-02-29T20:40:00.616ZAveranhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AveranGale
<p>+1 to Blair for the Young Frankenstein reference! :)</p>
<p>+1 to Blair for the Young Frankenstein reference! :)</p> I'm not to great on the web t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-29:4778851:Comment:3000752012-02-29T18:01:09.093ZTodd Sowellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ToddSowell
<p>I'm not to great on the web thing myself. Hope my daughter doesn't move out too soon.</p>
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<p>Blair, thanks for sharing about Max's class.</p>
<p>Are you doing plastic welding? I think that's the right term. Do you use a standard welder?</p>
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<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I'm not to great on the web thing myself. Hope my daughter doesn't move out too soon.</p>
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<p>Blair, thanks for sharing about Max's class.</p>
<p>Are you doing plastic welding? I think that's the right term. Do you use a standard welder?</p>
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<p>Thanks</p> Hey AP’ists,
I thank you Max…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-29:4778851:Comment:3000742012-02-29T17:32:37.774ZBlair Ricehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BlairRice
<p>Hey AP’ists,</p>
<p>I thank you Max for your class I attended last yr.2011. I found it to be deeply informative, brave, and abby-normal. Your Permaculture approch really opened my thoughts to many other perspectives for observing and the fine tuning of my system. Thank you again!</p>
<p>'AND' I had a great time with you and my classmates...food, beer, and conversation...'YES'!</p>
<p>Blair</p>
<p> <br></br>FOOD for THOUGHT<br></br>Looking for tanks and growbeds? I bought 4x4x1/2 sheets of HDPE…</p>
<p>Hey AP’ists,</p>
<p>I thank you Max for your class I attended last yr.2011. I found it to be deeply informative, brave, and abby-normal. Your Permaculture approch really opened my thoughts to many other perspectives for observing and the fine tuning of my system. Thank you again!</p>
<p>'AND' I had a great time with you and my classmates...food, beer, and conversation...'YES'!</p>
<p>Blair</p>
<p> <br/>FOOD for THOUGHT<br/>Looking for tanks and growbeds? I bought 4x4x1/2 sheets of HDPE and a commercial welder (Leister) and am learning to weld and building my system to the dementions I want and for the long run something I will not need to replace, and have the option to modify. This has turned out to be fun and 1/4th the cost of say pre-manufactured fiberglass.<br/>Blair</p> Hi Todd,
Thank you for your r…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-29:4778851:Comment:3001602012-02-29T16:10:18.845ZMax Meyershttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MaxMeyers
<p>Hi Todd,</p>
<p>Thank you for your response and for your comments about how little of our work is published on our website. We will be redoing our entire website soon. It will include many more examples of our work...</p>
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<p>We are good farmers, but very bad web masters. I pray we finally have a web person who will do a good job with our web presence.</p>
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<p>I can't even figure out how to rotate a photo I posted here... LOL</p>
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<p>Peace &…</p>
<p>Hi Todd,</p>
<p>Thank you for your response and for your comments about how little of our work is published on our website. We will be redoing our entire website soon. It will include many more examples of our work...</p>
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<p>We are good farmers, but very bad web masters. I pray we finally have a web person who will do a good job with our web presence.</p>
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<p>I can't even figure out how to rotate a photo I posted here... LOL</p>
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<p>Peace & Permaculture,</p>
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<p>Max</p> Max,
Don't be sad. There ar…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-29:4778851:Comment:2998892012-02-29T04:28:12.113ZTodd Sowellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ToddSowell
<p>Max,</p>
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<p>Don't be sad. There are so many new trainings popping up and people making claims that everyone wants more information. That's why we ask.</p>
<p>I'm still wondering where you got your aquaponic certification. Also, only 2 projects are mentioned on your website. Maybe there would be less questions with more pictures of your projects.</p>
<p>I'm glad you responded. I would think that you'd be happy to have the opportunity to do so</p>
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<p>Max,</p>
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<p>Don't be sad. There are so many new trainings popping up and people making claims that everyone wants more information. That's why we ask.</p>
<p>I'm still wondering where you got your aquaponic certification. Also, only 2 projects are mentioned on your website. Maybe there would be less questions with more pictures of your projects.</p>
<p>I'm glad you responded. I would think that you'd be happy to have the opportunity to do so</p>
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<p>Todd</p> Hi Ruppert, Todd and all our…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-28:4778851:Comment:2998612012-02-28T23:59:05.162ZMax Meyershttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MaxMeyers
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">Hi Ruppert, Todd and all our fellow Aquaponics enthusiasts out there,</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">I would like to respond to some of the questions and comments relating to NorCal Aquaponics and myself.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">My credentials and…</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">Hi Ruppert, Todd and all our fellow Aquaponics enthusiasts out there,</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">I would like to respond to some of the questions and comments relating to NorCal Aquaponics and myself.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">My credentials and experience:</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">37 years of fish breeding, rearing and aquaculture training and experience.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">30 years of organic farming training and experience.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">25 years training and experience in auto mechanics and construction.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">25 years training and experience in hydroponics and hydroponic farming.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">15 years as a working professional in sustainable water systems design, natural water systems work, rainwater harvesting and constructed wetlands, troubleshooting and development.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">15 years of training and experience in Ecological Design and Permaculture.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">7 years of training and experience in Living Machines and Aquaponics.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">I received my B.A. Degree in Ecological Design in 2000.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">I am a certified Permaculture Designer and Teacher through the international Permaculture Institute of Australia. 2003 to present.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">In 2003, I co-founded the Mendocino Ecological Learning Center here in Willits california. We are a 501c(3) educational nonprofit organization providing Permaculture education, training and experience to the public for free or at very low costs. I am the current Executive Director. You can see our work here <a href="http://www.melc.us/">www.melc.us</a></font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">In 2009 we founded NorCal Aquaponics, to spread the word of my one of a kind Permaculture based approach to Aquaponics. I call it “Closed Loop” Aquaponics and we here at NorCal we have developed much of holistic c, Permaculture based/closed loop methods of Aquaponics you now see being practices more and more around the world.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">We have now helped, consulted, designed or trained people with AP related projects in California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Rhode Island, Canada, Hawaii, Nicaragua, Colombia, Costa Rica, Mexico, Dominican Republic, The Maldives, Thailand and others worldwide...</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">We offer all our information freely and do not require our students to sign any non-disclosure agreements, mandatory profit sharing, etc. We pride ourselves in sharing all our research, knowledge, successes, and all that we earn from our mistakes, opportunities and experiences.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">In 2009 I designed and co-constructed a 8,000 gallon commercial system at Finca Las Nubes in Nicaragua. It is still in operation and we use it for trainings 1-2 times per year.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">From February 2011 to January 2012, I was the Director of I project I started in Costa Rica restoring and transforming a 200 acre commercial Aquaculture farm into the world's largest Permaculture based Aquaculture & Aquaponics research farm & Institute! We repaired and restored the farm and returned it to its fully operating status while breeding Tilapia and 6 other species of fish, shrimp, crayfish even eels!</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">That is just a sampling of my experience and work over the years.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">As for our students and clients, we have a long list of past students now running their own Aquaponics systems, farms, schools and businesses. Many of our graduates now run successful commercial operations like our past student and now colleague at Aqua Vita Farms in New York, <a href="http://www.aquavitafarms.com/">http://www.aquavitafarms.com</a></font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">As for certification, we provide all our graduates with a “certificate of completion”, which simply acknowledges that they have completed the training and are now a fellow “Aquaneer” as we call ourselves, because we are Aquaponic Pioneers in this Permaculture based field of Aquaponics. This certificate is no different from the ones most people receive for completing many types of trainings, office management workshop, residential electricity class, etc., etc., etc.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">It makes me a little sad that I need to explain, even justify myself for providing such, unique, complete, all inclusive information, training and services. We are all stronger as friends and allies helping each other to become more and more successful in our Aquaponics endeavors. Why not help and learn from each other, why giving each other the benefit of the doubt. Almost daily I am referring people to others in the Aquaponics community. There is simply too much going on in our field not to work together...</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">We are proud to be offering the most affordable complete and Permaculture based training in Aquaponics offered anywhere! It has got to be the best value of any course currently being offered. I would encourage anyone interested in learning more about Aquaponics and all the tools you need to design, size, construct and maintain more “closed loop” AP systems, projects and farms.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3"><a href="http://www.livingmandala.com/Living_Mandala/Closed_Loop_Aquaponics_With_Applied_Permaculture_May_2012.html" target="_blank">http://www.livingmandala.com/Living_Mandala/Closed_Loop_Aquaponics_With_Applied_Permaculture_May_2012.html</a></font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">To learn more about me and my work, please check out this video TIME Magazine did on my Aquaponics work <a href="http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,658160623001_2030619,00.html">http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,658160623001_2030619,00.html</a> and this YouTube clip <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhHLZesjZRU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhHLZesjZRU</a> of my Permaculture work for clients.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000"><font face="ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="3">In Peace & Permaculture,</font></font></font></p>
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<p><cite>RupertofOZ said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/building-a-aquaponics-system?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A159713&page=5#4778851Comment294444"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>No need Jon.... I'm sure Max is a "good guy".. and probably well-intentioned...</p>
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<p>And he did build a system for a friend at a resort down in Nicuragua...</p>
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<p>And apparantly has designed one for a mob in Santa Cruz....</p>
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<p>My beef is simply... that he promotes himself as a "certified Aquaponics system designer " .... and a "Commercial Aquaponic System Designer/Installer"... and offers courses in "commercial" aquaponics, without apparantly actually running one himself.... and apparantly, after having "certified" himself...</p>
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<p>And offers "aquaponic certifications" to those who might take his courses.. based on god only knows what??</p>
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<p>And , sadly... the few that have attended his courses... all seem to say, and do the same... most with glaringly little to no knowledge of aquaponics generally...</p>
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<p>The Santa Cruz operation is a prime example.... "a light commercial system capable of producing 20 to 30,000 pounds of vegetables and 4,000 to 6,000 pounds of fish per annum"... (ah yeah, a "light" commercial system eh)</p>
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<p>It hasn't even been built yet.... but is offering courses in "commercial" aquaponics... and aquaponic "certification"... and "scholarships"</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.gyrecleanup.org/csaaquaponics/">http://www.gyrecleanup.org/csaaquaponics/</a></p>
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<p>Don't get me wrong... Max is not the only one doing this kind of thing, or making such claims... but there's just not the demonstrable real experience, or justification to back such claims...</p>
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</blockquote> Gotta watch the Oz man. He he…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-18:4778851:Comment:2945802012-02-18T04:03:33.996ZTodd Sowellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/ToddSowell
<p>Gotta watch the Oz man. He hears everything!</p>
<p>Gotta watch the Oz man. He hears everything!</p> I gotcha, Rupe and Todd. I ha…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-18:4778851:Comment:2943932012-02-18T02:29:36.463ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
I gotcha, Rupe and Todd. I haven't anything to add or refute, I only know him from a few brief visits, more of a personal reference. Rupe, you sure know a lot, I'm constantly amazed. When i first heard of Santa Cruz Aquaponics closing their doors, I googled it, and found your post in BYAP announcing the closure two weeks prior. Amazing you know know my backyard better than I do :)
I gotcha, Rupe and Todd. I haven't anything to add or refute, I only know him from a few brief visits, more of a personal reference. Rupe, you sure know a lot, I'm constantly amazed. When i first heard of Santa Cruz Aquaponics closing their doors, I googled it, and found your post in BYAP announcing the closure two weeks prior. Amazing you know know my backyard better than I do :) No need Jon.... I'm sure Max…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-02-17:4778851:Comment:2944442012-02-17T19:17:38.697ZRupertofOZhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RupertofOZ
<p>No need Jon.... I'm sure Max is a "good guy".. and probably well-intentioned...</p>
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<p>And he did build a system for a friend at a resort down in Nicuragua...</p>
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<p>And apparantly has designed one for a mob in Santa Cruz....</p>
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<p>My beef is simply... that he promotes himself as a "certified Aquaponics system designer " .... and a "Commercial Aquaponic System Designer/Installer"... and offers courses in "commercial" aquaponics, without apparantly actually running…</p>
<p>No need Jon.... I'm sure Max is a "good guy".. and probably well-intentioned...</p>
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<p>And he did build a system for a friend at a resort down in Nicuragua...</p>
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<p>And apparantly has designed one for a mob in Santa Cruz....</p>
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<p>My beef is simply... that he promotes himself as a "certified Aquaponics system designer " .... and a "Commercial Aquaponic System Designer/Installer"... and offers courses in "commercial" aquaponics, without apparantly actually running one himself.... and apparantly, after having "certified" himself...</p>
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<p>And offers "aquaponic certifications" to those who might take his courses.. based on god only knows what??</p>
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<p>And , sadly... the few that have attended his courses... all seem to say, and do the same... most with glaringly little to no knowledge of aquaponics generally...</p>
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<p>The Santa Cruz operation is a prime example.... "a light commercial system capable of producing 20 to 30,000 pounds of vegetables and 4,000 to 6,000 pounds of fish per annum"... (ah yeah, a "light" commercial system eh)</p>
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<p>It hasn't even been built yet.... but is offering courses in "commercial" aquaponics... and aquaponic "certification"... and "scholarships"</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.gyrecleanup.org/csaaquaponics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gyrecleanup.org/csaaquaponics/</a></p>
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<p>Don't get me wrong... Max is not the only one doing this kind of thing, or making such claims... but there's just not the demonstrable real experience, or justification to back such claims...</p>