Brutal or realistic? What is your opinion about it? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T15:45:05Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/brutal-or-realistic-what-is-your-opinion-about-it?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A302550&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFor some reason it wont let m…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-24:4778851:Comment:3736572012-07-24T19:39:21.243Zking6https://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/king6
<p>For some reason it wont let me view the video. </p>
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<p>For some reason it wont let me view the video. </p>
<p></p> I agree completely, Siggy, an…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3726422012-07-23T14:25:16.569ZSylvia Bernsteinhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SylviaBernstein
<p>I agree completely, Siggy, and, by extension, one of the greatest values of aquaponics is that it makes us conscious of how fish are raised. My sincere hope is that one of the global impacts of the growing home aquaponics movement will be a rising demand for clean, locally grown fish raised on better feed...much like the impact that backyard chickens have had on our expectations of the egg and poultry industry. When we see fish in the fish counter we should be questioning how it was…</p>
<p>I agree completely, Siggy, and, by extension, one of the greatest values of aquaponics is that it makes us conscious of how fish are raised. My sincere hope is that one of the global impacts of the growing home aquaponics movement will be a rising demand for clean, locally grown fish raised on better feed...much like the impact that backyard chickens have had on our expectations of the egg and poultry industry. When we see fish in the fish counter we should be questioning how it was raised, like we are starting to do with beef, chicken and pork. </p> Thanks for taking the time to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3728062012-07-23T13:10:03.538ZSiggy Ghttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SiggyG
Thanks for taking the time to elaborate Sylvia. The video being taken down seems well within his rights and I don't think it's ethically objectionable. I understand Rupert's stance on it as well, and wish we lived in a world that appreciated candor more. But fact is that people are often offended far too easily, so I can understand why it was removed.<br />
I agree with your blog post completely. But I feel people need to be responsible for their own stupidity as well. If you think you can feed your…
Thanks for taking the time to elaborate Sylvia. The video being taken down seems well within his rights and I don't think it's ethically objectionable. I understand Rupert's stance on it as well, and wish we lived in a world that appreciated candor more. But fact is that people are often offended far too easily, so I can understand why it was removed.<br />
I agree with your blog post completely. But I feel people need to be responsible for their own stupidity as well. If you think you can feed your family off a small patch of land in your spare time, maybe you ought to try so that you get a better idea of what's involved in producing the food you eat. I find that is one of local farming's greatest assets, putting people back in touch with the people who grow their food. Too many people have absolutely no idea about how their food is produced. LOL - I'm actually on Mountai…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3725762012-07-23T12:54:05.974ZSylvia Bernsteinhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SylviaBernstein
<p>LOL - I'm actually on Mountain time, George, enjoying a peaceful, beautiful morning sunrise. It's my favorite time of day.</p>
<p>LOL - I'm actually on Mountain time, George, enjoying a peaceful, beautiful morning sunrise. It's my favorite time of day.</p> 0836 Eastern Time. You're up…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3726302012-07-23T12:36:49.676ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>0836 Eastern Time. You're up and at em rather early.<br/> <br/> <cite>Sylvia Bernstein said:</cite></p>
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<p>0836 Eastern Time. You're up and at em rather early.<br/> <br/> <cite>Sylvia Bernstein said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> That was basically it, Siggy,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3724972012-07-23T12:19:16.233ZSylvia Bernsteinhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SylviaBernstein
<p>That was basically it, Siggy, and, by extension, he might have come across as critical of some commercial operators and trainers. As a scientist (not to mention just being a good guy) he is normally quite careful about what he says in public and his understanding was that he was going to have editorial control over this video when it was shot...otherwise he wouldn't have made those off-the-cuff kind of comments. He was quite angry when the video came out without his knowledge, much less his…</p>
<p>That was basically it, Siggy, and, by extension, he might have come across as critical of some commercial operators and trainers. As a scientist (not to mention just being a good guy) he is normally quite careful about what he says in public and his understanding was that he was going to have editorial control over this video when it was shot...otherwise he wouldn't have made those off-the-cuff kind of comments. He was quite angry when the video came out without his knowledge, much less his review, so he asked that it be taken down and it essentially was by being privatized. I think we can all empathize with having video shot of us in a private moment that we don't want put up on the internet! <img src="http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad93/ucsycybersmiley/109.gif"/></p>
<p>I completely agree with you about AP not feeding the world, BTW, and recently wrote a blog post about that very subject that you may find interesting - <a href="http://theaquaponicsource.com/2012/07/02/aquaponics-and-setting-unrealistic-expectations-about-vegetable-production/">http://theaquaponicsource.com/2012/07/02/aquaponics-and-setting-unrealistic-expectations-about-vegetable-production/</a>.</p> Can anyone offer a recap of w…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3726262012-07-23T11:20:10.850ZSiggy Ghttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SiggyG
Can anyone offer a recap of what was said in the video? I gather from the commentary that it was somewhat critical of AP commercial potential. I read someone's comment that he might have denied AP's ability to feed the world. If anyone really believes that AP can replace earthbound agriculture, they're living in fantasy land. AP's value for large scale production of food lies in it's ability to utilize nutrients from aquaculture that would otherwise pollute our natural waters. The ability to…
Can anyone offer a recap of what was said in the video? I gather from the commentary that it was somewhat critical of AP commercial potential. I read someone's comment that he might have denied AP's ability to feed the world. If anyone really believes that AP can replace earthbound agriculture, they're living in fantasy land. AP's value for large scale production of food lies in it's ability to utilize nutrients from aquaculture that would otherwise pollute our natural waters. The ability to raise your own food locally is wonderful and valuable. But even when AP really catches on, it still will only produce a small fraction of the food needed to feed humanity. AP isn't a replacement for industrial food production, it's supplemental. It's far too labor and investment intensive to replace large scale farming. ROFL!!! Nate Storey said:
He…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-23:4778851:Comment:3723762012-07-23T00:42:16.720ZVon Tomasinihttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VonTomasini
<p>ROFL!!!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Nate Storey said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/brutal-or-realistic-what-is-your-opinion-about-it?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A302458&page=3#4778851Comment302970"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey- failure's part of the process, and all of the smart teachers and classrooms in the world can't give you the experience and knowledge that an epic fail or two will. You really can't be a Buddhist and an AP…</p>
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<p>ROFL!!!<br/> <br/> <cite>Nate Storey said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/brutal-or-realistic-what-is-your-opinion-about-it?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A302458&page=3#4778851Comment302970"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey- failure's part of the process, and all of the smart teachers and classrooms in the world can't give you the experience and knowledge that an epic fail or two will. You really can't be a Buddhist and an AP practitioner- too much bad karma from killing so many fish and plants. . . </p>
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</blockquote> i cant view this. It says the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-28:4778851:Comment:3269242012-04-28T16:02:51.421ZBryan Acredhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BryanAcred
<p>i cant view this. It says the video is private....Can someone republish?</p>
<p>i cant view this. It says the video is private....Can someone republish?</p> I can't believe this caused s…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-28:4778851:Comment:3265952012-04-28T11:45:11.420ZRyan Chattersonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Ryan
I can't believe this caused such an uproar. He's a good guy and was being candid,...is this going to be gone over for the next 5 yrs? The mystery Wilson tape? Let's move the industry forward, not try and single out Wilson who has been trying to get this moving for a decade. <br></br><br></br><cite>Luis Arteaga said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I will appreciatte if somebody got a private copy of the video and will send it by email, i promise not to distribute it or make public, but i am beginning my…</p>
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I can't believe this caused such an uproar. He's a good guy and was being candid,...is this going to be gone over for the next 5 yrs? The mystery Wilson tape? Let's move the industry forward, not try and single out Wilson who has been trying to get this moving for a decade. <br/><br/><cite>Luis Arteaga said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I will appreciatte if somebody got a private copy of the video and will send it by email, i promise not to distribute it or make public, but i am beginning my setup and planning to go commercial in the future, every ounce of good info about it is appreciated.<br/> <br/> <cite>Kellen Weissenbach said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/brutal-or-realistic-what-is-your-opinion-about-it?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A302458&page=6#4778851Comment305078"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks to a buddy, I was able to check out the video a bit ago. I liked the honesty and candidness of the whole thing.</p>
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