Blue Gill Fin Fungus? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T10:03:46Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/blue-gill-fin-fungus?feed=yes&xn_auth=nonot necessarily so,,,
the fi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-10-01:4778851:Comment:3974022012-10-01T19:06:02.061ZBrent Wheelerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BrentWheeler
<p>not necessarily so,,,</p>
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<p>the first 200 BG I got showed signs of illness/stress after a 30 min ride from pick up point... I have the same system running now as then, working great as I type.. with in 48 hours 90% had died. I did get replacement fish a few moths later and those only showed minor issues and 90% survived. </p>
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<p>not necessarily so,,,</p>
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<p>the first 200 BG I got showed signs of illness/stress after a 30 min ride from pick up point... I have the same system running now as then, working great as I type.. with in 48 hours 90% had died. I did get replacement fish a few moths later and those only showed minor issues and 90% survived. </p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Jon Parr said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/blue-gill-fin-fungus?xg_source=activity&id=4778851%3ATopic%3A392282&page=2#4778851Comment397353"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Sorry to hear that, Steve. Heat is bad for shipping fish, and bluegill are bad for handling stress. However, if you lost all your fish in one night, I'd bet my left nut the cause of death was low oxygen in your tank, not shipping stress or shipping temp. Fix that issue before you replace the batch<br/> <br/> <cite>Steve Champion said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/blue-gill-fin-fungus?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A397349&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment397181"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Lost all of my Bluegill overnight.</p>
<p>Talked to Aquaculture guy (who I bought me fish from) and He said that the high temps (around 100) have stressed the fish too much. He's gonna replace the fish in a couple of weeks when it should be cooler.</p>
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</blockquote> Sorry to hear that, Steve. He…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-10-01:4778851:Comment:3973532012-10-01T14:50:11.504ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
<p>Sorry to hear that, Steve. Heat is bad for shipping fish, and bluegill are bad for handling stress. However, if you lost all your fish in one night, I'd bet my left nut the cause of death was low oxygen in your tank, not shipping stress or shipping temp. Fix that issue before you replace the batch<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Steve Champion said:…</cite></p>
<p>Sorry to hear that, Steve. Heat is bad for shipping fish, and bluegill are bad for handling stress. However, if you lost all your fish in one night, I'd bet my left nut the cause of death was low oxygen in your tank, not shipping stress or shipping temp. Fix that issue before you replace the batch<br/> <br/> <cite>Steve Champion said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/blue-gill-fin-fungus?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A397349&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment397181"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Lost all of my Bluegill overnight.</p>
<p>Talked to Aquaculture guy (who I bought me fish from) and He said that the high temps (around 100) have stressed the fish too much. He's gonna replace the fish in a couple of weeks when it should be cooler.</p>
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</blockquote> Bummer. I stocked bluegill i…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-10-01:4778851:Comment:3973492012-10-01T13:15:13.364ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>Bummer. I stocked bluegill in Dec. and they did well in spite of me. Stocked 60 catfish at the same time and 58 died due to nitrite. Possibly I'll eat the two catfish between now and Dec. and stock a few more. Catfish really pack on the pounds. I hope to breed my own bluegill next spring. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Steve Champion said:…</cite></p>
<p>Bummer. I stocked bluegill in Dec. and they did well in spite of me. Stocked 60 catfish at the same time and 58 died due to nitrite. Possibly I'll eat the two catfish between now and Dec. and stock a few more. Catfish really pack on the pounds. I hope to breed my own bluegill next spring. <br/> <br/> <cite>Steve Champion said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/blue-gill-fin-fungus?id=4778851%3ATopic%3A392282&page=2#4778851Comment397181"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Lost all of my Bluegill overnight.</p>
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</blockquote> Lost all of my Bluegill overn…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-10-01:4778851:Comment:3971812012-10-01T02:45:55.582ZSteve Championhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SteveChampion
<p>Lost all of my Bluegill overnight.</p>
<p>Talked to Aquaculture guy (who I bought me fish from) and He said that the high temps (around 100) have stressed the fish too much. He's gonna replace the fish in a couple of weeks when it should be cooler.</p>
<p>Lost all of my Bluegill overnight.</p>
<p>Talked to Aquaculture guy (who I bought me fish from) and He said that the high temps (around 100) have stressed the fish too much. He's gonna replace the fish in a couple of weeks when it should be cooler.</p> Just picked up some Bluegill,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-29:4778851:Comment:3967772012-09-29T17:44:44.203ZSteve Championhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/SteveChampion
<p>Just picked up some Bluegill, yesterday, and have the same thing!! I put a pinch of potasium in the tank, so we will see!! I've tried salting in the past and never had any luck.</p>
<p>I'll be looking forward to hearing of your success!!</p>
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<p>Just picked up some Bluegill, yesterday, and have the same thing!! I put a pinch of potasium in the tank, so we will see!! I've tried salting in the past and never had any luck.</p>
<p>I'll be looking forward to hearing of your success!!</p>
<p>Steve</p> Well most are in our spring f…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-28:4778851:Comment:3964992012-09-28T13:46:39.120ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Well most are in our spring fed pond now so we will continue to feed them there. 3 healthy looking ones are in with the 1 remaining comet and doing fine so far in their 200 gal ibc. Driving 4800 miles next week so my wife is in charge of the AP. Bringing our 2 boats back from Maine, what a pain. Can't wait to get that over with.</p>
<p>Well most are in our spring fed pond now so we will continue to feed them there. 3 healthy looking ones are in with the 1 remaining comet and doing fine so far in their 200 gal ibc. Driving 4800 miles next week so my wife is in charge of the AP. Bringing our 2 boats back from Maine, what a pain. Can't wait to get that over with.</p> Wild bluegill in ponds seem t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-28:4778851:Comment:3967062012-09-28T07:17:59.323ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>Wild bluegill in ponds seem to be easily trained to pelleted food. You could go to such a pond to catch your fish.</p>
<p>Or, catch a few regular wild bluegill and take them home. I imagine they'll take pelleted food before starving to death. If not, you won't lose much by trying.</p>
<p>It's neat to watch them eat any live food. They really mean business.</p>
<p>Wild bluegill in ponds seem to be easily trained to pelleted food. You could go to such a pond to catch your fish.</p>
<p>Or, catch a few regular wild bluegill and take them home. I imagine they'll take pelleted food before starving to death. If not, you won't lose much by trying.</p>
<p>It's neat to watch them eat any live food. They really mean business.</p> Oh man, I love bluegill, woul…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-28:4778851:Comment:3967032012-09-28T04:44:47.850ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
<p>Oh man, I love bluegill, wouldn't call them a junk fish at all. I love how they attack flies, and mine feed almost exclusively on BSFL, making them the easiest fish I have to feed. But they are sensitive to stress and handling, so take a little prevention. They are larval spawners, meaning that the hatched eggs are too small to eat pellet food, no matter how small it is ground up. They need live zooplankton for the first 2-3 weeks of their lives in order to graduate to pellet feed, and for…</p>
<p>Oh man, I love bluegill, wouldn't call them a junk fish at all. I love how they attack flies, and mine feed almost exclusively on BSFL, making them the easiest fish I have to feed. But they are sensitive to stress and handling, so take a little prevention. They are larval spawners, meaning that the hatched eggs are too small to eat pellet food, no matter how small it is ground up. They need live zooplankton for the first 2-3 weeks of their lives in order to graduate to pellet feed, and for that reason they are best left in a pond to do it naturally, then scoop up a few for the tank once they are an inch or two. All of the sunfish family including bass are larval spawners, and best left to natural ponds. Actually, zooplankton can be cultivated in tanks, but it is a substantial extra step for the backyard grower. Tilapia, catfish, trout and sturgeon are larger egg layers, and the "swim-up" fry can eat pellet feed immediately. Big plus there. </p> Thank you Jon, that is very h…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-27:4778851:Comment:3964232012-09-27T14:49:01.229ZJim Fiskhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimFisk
<p>Thank you Jon, that is very helpful. It sounds like I should avoid them for now. I remember growing up fishing and if we were skunked we could always bring home a Sunny Or BG. Kind of a junk fish if you will, so I somehow took that to mean they were bullet proof. Or I should say "assumed" with all the connotations that go along:-)</p>
<p>Thank you Jon, that is very helpful. It sounds like I should avoid them for now. I remember growing up fishing and if we were skunked we could always bring home a Sunny Or BG. Kind of a junk fish if you will, so I somehow took that to mean they were bullet proof. Or I should say "assumed" with all the connotations that go along:-)</p> Hey Jim, hope you're past the…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-09-27:4778851:Comment:3963322012-09-27T14:30:57.291ZJon Parrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonParr
Hey Jim, hope you're past the hump with those BG's. Just for the record, BG are very susceptible to stress, and wild caught are no different. Added to stress of being hooked or netted, wild will need to be feed trained, and have to adapt to tank life, so don't hold your breath on better results. I've had the best success with feed trained BG's netted once (not netted to a holding pond, netted into buckets, and netted out to final home), transported in 5 ppt salt with oxygen and ammonia pellets,…
Hey Jim, hope you're past the hump with those BG's. Just for the record, BG are very susceptible to stress, and wild caught are no different. Added to stress of being hooked or netted, wild will need to be feed trained, and have to adapt to tank life, so don't hold your breath on better results. I've had the best success with feed trained BG's netted once (not netted to a holding pond, netted into buckets, and netted out to final home), transported in 5 ppt salt with oxygen and ammonia pellets, and then added to stable, seasoned water. I ship my BG fingerlings all over that way, and usually have no subsequent stress problems. A recent shipment of 20 small BG and 2 cats took two days in the mail, and all went well (actually one died, but he may have been squished in netting)