bell siphon floating - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T02:29:54Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/bell-siphon-floating?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A562146&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNadeem has the right idea.. .…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-09-03:4778851:Comment:5774022014-09-03T23:04:57.370ZRob Nashhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RobNash
<p>Nadeem has the right idea.. .go with a larger pipe. even 1-1/2" will do.. it has to have air just bellow the bed to allow the siphon to interrupt itself. dont glue it to the bed at all.. just let the bed's 3/4" tail pipe drain into the 1-1/2" 90 and then run to the FT (so long as the fish tank is lower than the bottom of the growbeds.</p>
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<p>...or ditch the bell siphon all together and add a timer and perforated stand pipe.</p>
<p>Nadeem has the right idea.. .go with a larger pipe. even 1-1/2" will do.. it has to have air just bellow the bed to allow the siphon to interrupt itself. dont glue it to the bed at all.. just let the bed's 3/4" tail pipe drain into the 1-1/2" 90 and then run to the FT (so long as the fish tank is lower than the bottom of the growbeds.</p>
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<p>...or ditch the bell siphon all together and add a timer and perforated stand pipe.</p> Being that his run to his dra…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-09-03:4778851:Comment:5772852014-09-03T20:59:14.181ZJack Dunbarhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JackDunbar
<p>Being that his run to his drain tank is so long, is it pitched properly so no water gets trapped in it? I agree w/Nadeem.</p>
<p>Being that his run to his drain tank is so long, is it pitched properly so no water gets trapped in it? I agree w/Nadeem.</p> It would be better for you to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-09-01:4778851:Comment:5770372014-09-01T22:07:06.376ZNadeem Hydalhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/NadeemHydal
<p>It would be better for you to keep the 3/4 drain short as possible and let it drain into a larger drain pipe that takes the water back to the sump/ft. Looking at the setup above I would have one straight 4" or 3" drain that takes up the drains from the 3 grow beds.</p>
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<p>It would be better for you to keep the 3/4 drain short as possible and let it drain into a larger drain pipe that takes the water back to the sump/ft. Looking at the setup above I would have one straight 4" or 3" drain that takes up the drains from the 3 grow beds.</p>
<p></p> The output is not submerged,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-09:4778851:Comment:5621462014-05-09T02:02:13.979ZLylehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Lyleportzer
<p>The output is not submerged, it lets out above the sump tank. Do you think having such a long line with only 3/4" pipe could be restricting the air going up into the bell? </p>
<p>Since i have gotten the first bed cycling it is draining slower then I would like and i am thinking of increasing the pipe size to 1" and now I am wondering if this change could also help the bell problem</p>
<p>The output is not submerged, it lets out above the sump tank. Do you think having such a long line with only 3/4" pipe could be restricting the air going up into the bell? </p>
<p>Since i have gotten the first bed cycling it is draining slower then I would like and i am thinking of increasing the pipe size to 1" and now I am wondering if this change could also help the bell problem</p> Every bell iv seen that float…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-08:4778851:Comment:5620212014-05-08T21:43:09.717ZSteve Rhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/steveraisner
<p>Every bell iv seen that floated was because there was no way for air to enter the siphon. You can easily fix this by drilling a few air holes in the output where the water returns to your tank. You can Swiss cheese it( Drill it full of random holes) to make a silencer i did that to the system thats inside my house and it reduced the noise dramatically.. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Alex Veidel said:…</cite></p>
<p>Every bell iv seen that floated was because there was no way for air to enter the siphon. You can easily fix this by drilling a few air holes in the output where the water returns to your tank. You can Swiss cheese it( Drill it full of random holes) to make a silencer i did that to the system thats inside my house and it reduced the noise dramatically.. <br/> <br/> <cite>Alex Veidel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/bell-siphon-floating?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A562020&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment562020"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ah, excellent question Steve :)</p>
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<p>Lyle, air needs to be able to get into your bell through your standpipe until the growbed is ready to siphon.</p>
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</blockquote> Ah, excellent question Steve…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-08:4778851:Comment:5620202014-05-08T20:53:26.270ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
<p>Ah, excellent question Steve :)</p>
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<p>Lyle, air needs to be able to get into your bell through your standpipe until the growbed is ready to siphon.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Steve R said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/bell-siphon-floating#4778851Comment561938"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>is the output of the bell submerged?</p>
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<p>Ah, excellent question Steve :)</p>
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<p>Lyle, air needs to be able to get into your bell through your standpipe until the growbed is ready to siphon.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Steve R said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/bell-siphon-floating#4778851Comment561938"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>is the output of the bell submerged?</p>
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</blockquote> is the output of the bell sub…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-08:4778851:Comment:5619382014-05-08T19:11:39.547ZSteve Rhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/steveraisner
<p>is the output of the bell submerged?</p>
<p>is the output of the bell submerged?</p> So I have been playing with i…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-08:4778851:Comment:5617962014-05-08T17:36:54.256ZLylehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Lyleportzer
<p>So I have been playing with it and I figured out what the problem is. The drain pipe had a 20' run to get to the sump tank, as soon as i shortened that length the bell was pulled down just like it should be. </p>
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<p>So I was wondering if anyone else has a bell siphon running with a long drain line and how they have it set up. </p>
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<p>Mine that is not working is 3/4" pipe with a trap(although it is possible the trap is not air tight since i did not have it glued) running a…</p>
<p>So I have been playing with it and I figured out what the problem is. The drain pipe had a 20' run to get to the sump tank, as soon as i shortened that length the bell was pulled down just like it should be. </p>
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<p>So I was wondering if anyone else has a bell siphon running with a long drain line and how they have it set up. </p>
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<p>Mine that is not working is 3/4" pipe with a trap(although it is possible the trap is not air tight since i did not have it glued) running a total length of 20'. It is also three beds running in a series as can be seen from my first pic.</p>
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<p>also thanks Alex for the initial replies</p> The bells are just over 16" a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-04:4778851:Comment:5611062014-05-04T01:37:00.409ZLylehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Lyleportzer
The bells are just over 16" and the bed is about 16" and then the depth of the cap adds about an inch. When i put the bell in wit no water and fill up the bed the bell will float up just a little. But when the bed is about half or more full and I put the bell in it floats like a fishing bobber.<br />
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The bell on my running system will get pulled down even when the bed is almost full(this bed is only 12" deep with a bell that is about 12"
The bells are just over 16" and the bed is about 16" and then the depth of the cap adds about an inch. When i put the bell in wit no water and fill up the bed the bell will float up just a little. But when the bed is about half or more full and I put the bell in it floats like a fishing bobber.<br />
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The bell on my running system will get pulled down even when the bed is almost full(this bed is only 12" deep with a bell that is about 12" Wait, is the top of your bell…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-05-04:4778851:Comment:5610572014-05-04T01:18:03.042ZAlex Veidelhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/AlexVeidel
Wait, is the top of your bell lower than the water level in your growbed?
Wait, is the top of your bell lower than the water level in your growbed?