Aquaponics System Design - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T01:53:00Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A244392&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt will happen, eventually. …tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-08:4778851:Comment:2452292011-11-08T22:13:35.374ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>It will happen, eventually. Just think of it as good excersize and practice. Look at all the experience you are gaining. Cause you know ya can't stop at just one small system, not with this addiction, uh I mean hobby.</p>
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<p>Sorry about having to move, I always hate dealing with all that goes with moving. Good Luck.</p>
<p>It will happen, eventually. Just think of it as good excersize and practice. Look at all the experience you are gaining. Cause you know ya can't stop at just one small system, not with this addiction, uh I mean hobby.</p>
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<p>Sorry about having to move, I always hate dealing with all that goes with moving. Good Luck.</p> Arrrggghh!
Isn't it always th…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-08:4778851:Comment:2449722011-11-08T21:32:13.874ZJohn Malonehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnMalone
<p>Arrrggghh!</p>
<p>Isn't it always the way? I just finished digging an 18" deep hole for my 6'x4' fish tank, bought the liner and the pump and then found out that we'll probably be moving in a month. And this is in Arizona where you don't dig a hole, you deconstruct the rocks! It's going to be a real shame to shovel all that dirt back into the hole. :(</p>
<p>*Sigh*</p>
<p>I'll NEVER get myself an AP system at this rate!</p>
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<p>OK - Rant over.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the advice…</p>
<p>Arrrggghh!</p>
<p>Isn't it always the way? I just finished digging an 18" deep hole for my 6'x4' fish tank, bought the liner and the pump and then found out that we'll probably be moving in a month. And this is in Arizona where you don't dig a hole, you deconstruct the rocks! It's going to be a real shame to shovel all that dirt back into the hole. :(</p>
<p>*Sigh*</p>
<p>I'll NEVER get myself an AP system at this rate!</p>
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<p>OK - Rant over.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the advice here. I'm learning lots.</p>
<p>John</p> if it is EPDM firestone pond…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-08:4778851:Comment:2449622011-11-08T20:27:57.247ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>if it is EPDM firestone pond guard liner, tilapia are not gonna eat it, catfish are not gonna poke through it with their barbs.</p>
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<p>I have had termites put holes in a rubber liner that was up against non treated wood. I've also had liner develop a leak up against treated wood but never had a fish do damage to a EPDM pondliner.</p>
<p>if it is EPDM firestone pond guard liner, tilapia are not gonna eat it, catfish are not gonna poke through it with their barbs.</p>
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<p>I have had termites put holes in a rubber liner that was up against non treated wood. I've also had liner develop a leak up against treated wood but never had a fish do damage to a EPDM pondliner.</p> I just ordered some rubber li…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-08:4778851:Comment:2452052011-11-08T19:10:56.220ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
I just ordered some rubber liner and some bulkhead fittings for a grow bed from watergarden.com.... good prices and the cheapest shipping i found. They sell by the foot so you don't over pay for something you don't need. I have heard that rubber isn't good for the fish tank because Tilapia will eat away at it.
I just ordered some rubber liner and some bulkhead fittings for a grow bed from watergarden.com.... good prices and the cheapest shipping i found. They sell by the foot so you don't over pay for something you don't need. I have heard that rubber isn't good for the fish tank because Tilapia will eat away at it. Still playing with mine so my…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-07:4778851:Comment:2448072011-11-07T23:06:15.513ZJon Nosehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonNose
Still playing with mine so my experience is limited .. so having given my disclaimer :) ... I have 3 x 8 growbeds which is the same square footage as yours ... i put mine in the middle and after playing with the bell siphon exit for a while have not had any problems since ... but all kind of factors come into play ... how fast the water comes in etc ... and having set up 4 3 x 8 tables so far I found that they all had their own temperaments .. kinda like have four mistresses but all have…
Still playing with mine so my experience is limited .. so having given my disclaimer :) ... I have 3 x 8 growbeds which is the same square footage as yours ... i put mine in the middle and after playing with the bell siphon exit for a while have not had any problems since ... but all kind of factors come into play ... how fast the water comes in etc ... and having set up 4 3 x 8 tables so far I found that they all had their own temperaments .. kinda like have four mistresses but all have slightly different preferences :) Thanks.
So my original design…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-07:4778851:Comment:2448062011-11-07T23:02:59.169ZJohn Malonehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnMalone
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>So my original design will stay as it is, minus the swirl filter and the second grow bed for the time being.</p>
<p>I really do appreciate the feedback.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>John<br></br> <br></br> <cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A244497&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment244497"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Probably easier to have the siphon over the…</p>
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<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>So my original design will stay as it is, minus the swirl filter and the second grow bed for the time being.</p>
<p>I really do appreciate the feedback.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>John<br/> <br/>
<cite>TCLynx said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A244497&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment244497"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Probably easier to have the siphon over the tank it's draining into. Long drain lines on siphons can sometimes cause issues.</p>
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<p>As for pumping. If you pump directly up to the max pumping height through oversized pipe and then branch off and let the water flow to where it needs to go pumping to the far ends of the grow beds.</p>
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</blockquote> Probably easier to have the s…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-07:4778851:Comment:2444972011-11-07T22:59:29.129ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Probably easier to have the siphon over the tank it's draining into. Long drain lines on siphons can sometimes cause issues.</p>
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<p>As for pumping. If you pump directly up to the max pumping height through oversized pipe and then branch off and let the water flow to where it needs to go pumping to the far ends of the grow beds.</p>
<p>Probably easier to have the siphon over the tank it's draining into. Long drain lines on siphons can sometimes cause issues.</p>
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<p>As for pumping. If you pump directly up to the max pumping height through oversized pipe and then branch off and let the water flow to where it needs to go pumping to the far ends of the grow beds.</p> I've been debating in my head…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-07:4778851:Comment:2446322011-11-07T20:52:20.018ZJohn Malonehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnMalone
<p>I've been debating in my head about the location of the bell siphon and can't come to a satisfactory conclusion. </p>
<p>My current thought it to have the inflow at one end of the bed and the siphon at the other so that there's fewer dead spots in the bed.</p>
<p>Given that idea, I'm now trying to decide which end I should put the 'in' and which I should put the 'out'. The deciding factor that I don't know is whether it's better to have the water pumped further, or will the siphon work…</p>
<p>I've been debating in my head about the location of the bell siphon and can't come to a satisfactory conclusion. </p>
<p>My current thought it to have the inflow at one end of the bed and the siphon at the other so that there's fewer dead spots in the bed.</p>
<p>Given that idea, I'm now trying to decide which end I should put the 'in' and which I should put the 'out'. The deciding factor that I don't know is whether it's better to have the water pumped further, or will the siphon work just fine with a longer outflow pipe.</p>
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<p>Oh - just to clear things up. My first build will <strong>not</strong> have the swirl filter and will only have <strong>one</strong> grow bed. The diagram at the start of this thread is the long, long term plan, which may, or may not come to fruition.</p>
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<p>Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>John</p> Hello Jon,
Woops - that's wha…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-07:4778851:Comment:2444912011-11-07T20:47:22.943ZJohn Malonehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JohnMalone
<p>Hello Jon,</p>
<p>Woops - that's what comes from not reading my notes. Long term plan is for <strong>two</strong> of the 6x4x1 grow beds which works out at 180 total volume each so combined 360 gallons.</p>
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<p>Thanks for pointing that out.</p>
<p>This Aussie struggles when not dealing with the metric system. </p>
<p>John</p>
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<p>Hello Jon,</p>
<p>Woops - that's what comes from not reading my notes. Long term plan is for <strong>two</strong> of the 6x4x1 grow beds which works out at 180 total volume each so combined 360 gallons.</p>
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<p>Thanks for pointing that out.</p>
<p>This Aussie struggles when not dealing with the metric system. </p>
<p>John</p>
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<p><cite>Jon Nose said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A244627&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment244627"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>6x4 x 1 x 7.33 = 176 gallons x 60% = 106 gallons ?<br/> not sure if by not putting bell siphons in middle of bed that you might have a problem down the road.</p>
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</blockquote> I usually just figure 50% to…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-11-07:4778851:Comment:2444902011-11-07T20:43:01.019ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
I usually just figure 50% to make the math easier
I usually just figure 50% to make the math easier